Joao Moreira - best in the business...... - Thoroughbred Horse Racing and Breeding Forums

There is more to sport than 'fairness'.

djebel wrote:

Superb wrote:

There is more to sport than 'fairness'.

Can you expand on that ?

I doubt it you can.

Are tight difficult turns 'unfair' in the tour de France? Is a bad bounce 'unfair' in the US Masters? I could go on.

These are environmental factors known to competitors and spectators before the commencement of the event. They assess a range of skills more broadly than the over-simplified 'who is the best'.

Horses for courses, as they say. Many animals are suited by the tight Moonee Valley circuit, having this skill - and it definetly is a skill - should be viewed as a valid attribute in racing.

djebel wrote:

No they shouldn't.

Every player in the Masters tees off from the same spot.

I would love to see the team riding from the tour introduced into Australian horse racing. Love it. Great idea.

How does that make the best horse win? It makes the trainer who has the most horses to waste win :S, bizarre logic.

Joao Moreira booked for Heartbreak City in the Melbourne Cup

Oct 11, 2016

Widely acclaimed to be the world's best jockey, Hong Kong based Joao Moreira has been booked to ride the Heartbreak City in this year's Melbourne Cup.

Darren Dance's Australian Thoroughbred Bloodstock just recently secured a major share in the Tony Martin trained import and the news of Moreira's booking adds further excitement to the prospect of having a Cup runner.

Moreira who has destroyed riding records over the past 24 months, rode the Darren Weir trained Signoff when winning the Lexus on Derby Day in 2014.

More on this breaking news as it unfolds....................

Peter Morganti

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Just a huge thrill to see him out here again, and expecting him to do something this week.

After missing the ride on in the Cox Plate, no doubt he will be out to prove something.

I'm on him in the Wakeful e/w ... Waterloo Sunset looks a consistent type, drawn well, just needs some magic applied.

Also think he can be the X Factor in the widest race of the carnival, The Cantala Stakes on Mackintosh, who is honest and in form.

Don't think they can win, but the $7.50 a place for Derryn and $9 for Wine Bush both look tempting.

I'm against his other rides, but will be saving with him in every exotic!

In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!

That was as classy as it gets today. How he positioned HC so beautifully from barrier 23 then worked into it and pushed through, then getting every ounce out of the horse, and then that spontaneous gesture at the end. He deserved to win it... dammit.

8 winners today for magic
What a champion

8 from 10 wasn't it? Phenomenal effort Clap

Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!

Gay3 wrote:

8 from 10 wasn't it? Phenomenal effort Clap

Yep. Brilliant

Ive never seen a better balanced jockey - his torso doesnt move an inch when he is riding em out,

shane dye said he is the best at judging speed.

superstar

how many in his support crew ?

djebel wrote:

TJMitchell wrote:

He also just rode 8 from 10 in the most competitive place for a jockey in the World. He is absolutely taking the piss.

So just how mush competition is there in Hong Kong ?

You ever heard of a jockey telling a trainer when to run his horse because that's the only time when he can ride it? Daily lunch's with owners, trainers trying to get rides. The networking thay have to do is unbelievable. Douglas Whyte, 13 time Champion, has a rough patch and all of a sudden he's getting about half the rides he once was and people are booing him in the mounting yard.

I'd say that's rather competitive. It's not all about wins and losses.

He's riding at Flemington on Saturday and his horses have all been kept MUCH shorter in the market than they would have been with any other jockey. Which raises the question:- How many lengths is he worth? Is his skill even worth anything considering he's racing away from home. Surely the local jockeys have some advantage being very familiar with the way races are run in Australia.

I would hazard a guess in that his horses are so much shorter that they would have to run at least a length better with him on board to justify their price.

What was that horse he got to win in Sydney a few years back for Patinack that hadn't won for years?

Trusting's ran better for Moreira than any other jockey.