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Sunline
Champion Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 22302 |
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I'd have backed Hauraki to beat most of this field. Winx no, which is why I'm keen on her.
But take your point, they are good fillies and I can't just take for granted beating Hauraki translates to beating the best of the girls. Re her being one dimensional, I can't imagine Moreira giving up barrier 5. Pace is rarely strong in this race. Those who are genuine stayers arent on pace types, so the on pacers won't be in a hurry to string them out, allowing Winx to hold a position better than midfield I thought. |
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Speediskey
Champion Joined: 18 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 4116 |
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Candelara looks a genuine plodder, shes no hope unless she runs it out solidly.
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shadow role
Champion Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 2173 |
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turned on an impressive sprint to go to the lead and gap the field for a ...plodder!
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'you are...what you think ..you are'
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Speediskey
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Thats my point, I'm not saying she isn't an alright horse, but what won her the race was the fact she made an early move and sustained an extremely long sprint from before the turn, I doubt her top speed is anything near Winx's, so it's too her advantage to roll them along from a fair way out.
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VPI
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JudgeHolden
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Disappointing, I thought Fenway was a pretty good thing. Should keep my hand in my pocket but Thunder Lady now for me.
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stayer
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Gust of Wind is still interesting. Was given a barrier trial monday - held right back and then finallY given a nudge to see what she could do. Will def stay the trip. Really like this race. A hard one to pick with a few decent types.
Oops just realized this is in the Winx thread. Winx won't place. |
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Sunline
Champion Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 22302 |
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Will be winning the Oaks tomorrow.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Group 1 Selections
Champion Joined: 11 Sep 2012 Status: Offline Points: 13740 |
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I think she is a miler and am not alone, if she wins tomorrow it is on class only. |
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Sunline
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I think she is a 1600m-2000m horse. Doesn't mean she won't be winning tomorrow. She's no price but will be winning.
She has shed loads of class on this field. Ballet Suite can run a race but Winx is a very, very good filly. She has had two goes against the boys and towelled them both times. Back to fillies she will get the distance well enough to win. Beaten by a very good stayer and a poor ride in the ATC Oaks.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Speediskey
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So you doubt she wins, but you also think it is a low quality race? She ran 2nd after going an extra 200m in the ATC Oaks, so either you think she is suddenly worse at staying 2200 then she is at staying 2400, or you think the race will be about even or better then the ATC Oaks. I honestly don't really get what you're saying.
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gogos
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I thought the top 2 in ATC Oaks were above avg performances.
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Group 1 Selections
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I think the race is very average, I don't think Winx is going as well as she was before the oaks, I think the bottom half of the rated field are mid weekers. Understand? Winx is about 2L below her best yet can still win. |
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gogos
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How is she not going well? Her ls sectionals were enormous
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KangaMick
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Sensational win!!!!!
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2007 JASBTC Champion,2008 JASBTC Runner-Up. NSW Surge-Aussie LFL Champions 2013/14
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Sunline
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Outstanding filly. Most underrated horse in Australia.
Waller has her going even better after an ATC Oaks prep. Genius.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Speediskey
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I think Winx is going better then ever and I think she definitely stays the 2200.
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Group 1 Selections
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She did rate a 1.90 Chance in the race, I just didn't think she would run it out.
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Platinum
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Wow looking at the thread on race nearly everyone layed her and went for a bolter confidently thats still running. Im not a fav backer in general but was susprised here
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James Bond Esq
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OMG
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James Bond Esq
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LR80
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Still not convinced. Its a QLD G1 for Pete's sake. Let's see how she fares in Melbourne.
Anyone prepared to back her for the Myer now? |
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whitt0
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She has beaten Earthquake, been knocked off by First Seal, beaten Hauraki, 2nd in the AJC Oaks.
She is G1 quality
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LR80
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By G1 do you mean in girls grade or open WFA? |
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James Bond Esq
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Giels in white dresses with blue satin sashes.
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whitt0
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3YO G1
Very different when having to race the imports at 4YO+
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djebel
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I have no doubt she can win A Myer classic.
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reductio ad absurdum
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MacDougall
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Might be a surprising amount of improvement in her to come. Wouldn't write her off for better races yet.
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Heavy10
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How strong will the Cox Plate be this year?
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LR80
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She's Arc bound.
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