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    Posted: 25 Apr 2014 at 1:20am
PREMIER trainer Chris Waller was “furious’’ when he discovered a website had been set up in his name — and without his knowledge — by leading syndicator Dean Watt.
The astonishing news emerged yesterday as Watt fronted a stewards inquiry to explain why he had established another website for Triple Crown Syndications, a direct competitor which was also caught by surprise.
Triple Crown’s website carried a link which redirected traffic to Watt’s own company, Dynamic Syndications. The site has since been shut down.
It was also revealed during the three-hour hearing that Watt had registered domain names for trainers, jockeys, auction houses and rival syndicators, a legal act known as “cybersquatting’’.
Chief steward Ray Murrihy adjourned the matter to decide if he accepted Watt’s explanation for the Triple Crown saga, or would charge him.
Watt, one of the most recognisable and successful syndicators in Australia, claimed he had done nothing illegal, and was protecting his intellectual property.
He said Triple Crown’s website was not dedicated to his competitor, but a reference to the racing term ‘Triple Crown’, a series he wanted his syndicated horses to target.
During the hearing Murrihy revealed Waller — like Triple Crown — wasn’t impressed when he discovered a website in his stable’s name.
The site carried photos of Waller, and invited punters to race horses with the Rosehill horseman.

Chief steward Ray Murrihy has revealed trainer Chris Waller wasn’t impressed when he discovered a website in his stable’s name last year. Source: News Limited
Waller and Watt have quickly moved on from the matter, and continue to race horses together. They’ll saddle up Perplexity at Warwick Farm this afternoon.
Last September, however, Waller said in an email to Watt, which was read out by Murrihy yesterday: “I’m furious you have used a website to impersonate me and my stable ... I haven’t yet engaged legal help on this situation, however, if you take don’t take it down, I will be forced to start down that path.’’
Murrihy said there was a link on the website, which invited would-be buyers to send an email to inquire about a horse. A Waller employee sent an email from a “hoax account’’, only to receive a reply from Watt’s son, Adam Watt.
Adam Watt, who was also at the inquiry, pointed out he was only advertising horses available with Waller.
“It was a goodwill gesture created to benefit both of us,’’ Dean Watt said, before he added he should have got the green light from Waller in the first place.
Watt then asked Murrihy why he had dredged up the issue when he kept quiet six months ago.
“Because it might show a pattern,’’ Murrihy said.
Triple Crown, who had their first Group 1 winner in Peggy Jean this month — the filly is favourite for tomorrow’s Group 1 Champagne Stakes — were represented at the inquiry by co-director Mike Ward, who said he stumbled across the Triple Crown website in February.
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I really would like to do business with people like that. They must really respect other people's rights.
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Lost friends and respect of everyone in the industry.........won that!!
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Mr I won it . What $.ck..& muppett. Peapole buy horses off this guy???
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Lost friends and respect of everyone in the industry.........won that!!

I doubt he had any of those to begin with! People must go there because he advertises the most... sadly it might mean that extremely loud and annoying advertising works on the human psyche Ouch

What about his excuse that he is talking about the 2yo triple crown... truly if they don't charge him they're kidding! What would possess him to have websites in jockeys', trainers' and auction houses' names??? 

Must have reached some settlement with Waller... who doesn't mind using less than standard methods of getting horses himself. 
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whatever happened to being ethical? If its legal then its open slather
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You missed a couple of hashes in your title Paz.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sneck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Apr 2014 at 2:20pm
I can't believe Dean Watt is so obtuse that he thought this would be a good idea LOL
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Beleave it or not? Racing still does have its own way of dealing with parasites like this guy. I just don't know how the racing industrie let him get so susseful. How it didn't see through the fake personality. Advertising it's an amazing thing. We are talking about some very intelligent peaple that buy shares in horses. But cannot see trough this guy. By the way I'm not one of them. . ( intelligent) haha
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watt charges waller $8 per day for each dynamic horse!

Nice guy Chris wont pass on the fee to clients.
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Gee gee what do you mean by that ?
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I assume that it means that Watt has an arrangement with trainers, where they pay him $8 per day if he gives them a horse to train.

Since Watt doesn't own the horse, I assume that he gives that money straight back to the owners ... yes?Stern Smile
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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How many horses are vwe. Talking about?
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You'd have to think Waller would train about 10-15 for them?
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Profit $80 per day? Not sheep stations. ?
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Stable recently told me. Watt sends trainers an invoive $240 per month. Basically for selecting and bringing the horse and owners to the stable.

Watt also sends owners $720pa management fee.

Races in is silks, keeps trophies, sashes and rugs if they win.

#ripoff
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Just keeps getting nicer this mr won it. Is he still going to be in bussiness when it all comes to light of day??
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Originally posted by Gee Gee Gee Gee wrote:

Stable recently told me. Watt sends trainers an invoive $240 per month. Basically for selecting and bringing the horse and owners to the stable.

Watt also sends owners $720pa management fee.

Races in is silks, keeps trophies, sashes and rugs if they win.

#ripoff

Don't forget the percentage of prizemoney they keep if it wins a race over a certain value Wink 
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Has Big Dean got a Group class horse? Or just provincial horses?

Star are now entrenched in Wallers stable and will soon take over.
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Do they ever publish all this stuff in their prospectuses??? Hi, I'm Dean, I will keep all the good stuff and charge you more prizemoney % if you win a good prizemoney race.... This must be in tiny print somewhere.. or? How much are we talking here?
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Originally posted by linghi11 linghi11 wrote:

Do they ever publish all this stuff in their prospectuses??? Hi, I'm Dean, I will keep all the good stuff and charge you more prizemoney % if you win a good prizemoney race.... This must be in tiny print somewhere.. or? How much are we talking here?

Last time I saw a PDS was a couple of years ago, however I believe it was about 2%, and I can't remember the value of the race which had to be won for that to apply.
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He would have to have his finger in this forum wouldn't he??
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They are all the same ... hey, anyone seen the twitter pic on Gai's website ... the RtR connections posing for a photo as they "celebrate" the win of  Order of the Sun ... owned by Eliza Park (who clearly don't know how to celebrate) Confused

The RTR team celebrating Order of the Sun's dominant win in the VRC St Leger @FlemingtonVRC @roundtableracng pic.twitter.com/WvuxTTOsUm

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Here's a motto the syndication "industry" might consider adopting ...

"Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive" ... with thanks to Bill S.Thumbs Up
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by OrangeMonkey OrangeMonkey wrote:

He would have to have his finger in this forum wouldn't he??

he has probably already registered a thoroughbred village website somewhere... people like him probably should stay away from finding out what people really think of them!
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

They are all the same ... hey, anyone seen the twitter pic on Gai's website ... the RtR connections posing for a photo as they "celebrate" the win of  Order of the Sun ... owned by Eliza Park (who clearly don't know how to celebrate) Confused


Yes... the RTR girl cannot stop with the photos... but this is how the people who have achieved little roll!! There's not a winning photo for Role Model or Tres Blue so they have to pretend to be successful to get the suckers in. But that is typical for the stable minions and associated bloodstock agents.
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Gee, I never knew how loosely one could interpret "celebrate".

None of this stuff surprises me about Watt and Dynamic. Except maybe that he charges trainers. Hilarious.
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Originally posted by linghi11 linghi11 wrote:


Originally posted by OrangeMonkey OrangeMonkey wrote:

He would have to have his finger in this forum wouldn't he??


he has probably already registered a thoroughbred village website somewhere... people like him probably should stay away from finding out what people really think of them!


You are right here. He deleted his twitter account once this charge came about.
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These are the leeches I talk about. How did he get so big. Was so see through ?
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Eights starters in the last at Rosehill...

Is that a record for one race by a trainer?
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