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Xavier
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A champion on the racetrack, Chautauqua is thriving in his life after racing as a show horse and striving for new victories.
An event that focuses on the 'wow factor', Chautauqua has adjusted quickly to his new career where he will be judged strictly on his looks, movement and action. Remembered now by many for standing in the gates and refusing to jump, which led to his retirement, Chautauqua was an incredible racehorse who won six Group 1s and more than $8 million in prizemoney. In the care of former jockey Casey Bruce and media personality Rob Gaylard, Chautauqua was identified as a horse that could have a successful show career. Racing.com's Karl Kaldawi has followed Chautauqua's progression since day one of his new journey and will continue to do so over the next 12 months as he strives to reach big goals. You can watch the first edition of 'Chautauqua - A New Journey' on Tuesday at 5:15pm (AEST) on racing.com Channels 68/78 or Foxtel 529, as well as the racing.com digital site or App. |
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Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes
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Discohips23
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Oh come on. You’d be surprised how many would agree!
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Gay3
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Off The Track
2 hrs · We are thrilled to announce that Chautauqua has found his home Off The Track with former jockey Casey Bruce and Rob Gaylard who will re-train the famous grey as a show horse. We will be tracking their progress so watch this space! |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Gay3
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It's repetitive, boring & irrelevant to bring Weirs' name into every thread possible - hence the hidden post
Edited by Gay3 - 26 Jul 2019 at 9:23pm |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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SkyDancer
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Interestingly, he hasn’t been officially retired despite it being mandatory that a retirement form is lodged within 1 month of retirement.
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SkyDancer
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Good news. He is a beautiful boy, will go a long way with the right people.
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brave_ponies
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Apparently going to be a show horse! I hope so as he will be a freakin **SUPERSTAR** in the show ring and it's a great look for racing
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Red Hare
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I'd keep sending him out. Reserve the outside gate for him and if he jumps, he's in. If not, he's not.
Get some anarchy in the markets. How could it be any worse than the current deductions calculation?
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Mayor
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The assumption that if a horse doesn't want to leave the barrier, it means he has mentally had enough is a long bow to draw. I would look at his demeanour around the stables, training tracks, his energy and willingness to run. How is he once he starts running? There could be other factors at play.
However, he's an 8YO now, 6 Group 1 wins and over $8.8 Million in earnings, I think he's had a good innings. What a champion.
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TIGER
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It's just greedy what they are doing
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EAD
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acacia alba
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Shame his owners never had your sense , MK.
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animals before people.
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maccamax
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I'll listen to your experience , MK The scalpel deprived him of so much. |
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Magnolian Khan
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I’ve been working with horses since the day I was born.
I can 1000% guarantee Chautauqua has had enough. |
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Tlazolteotl
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How does taking him overseas help? Are there places you can use a jigger at the starting gate?
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
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Sister Dot
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Hate should be yatte , wish we could delete stuff
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“Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined”
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Sister Dot
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Money is the root of all evil 😡 and yes I know the owners don’t need the money hate yatte yatte, but he’s made them millions, he blatantly doesn’t want to participate, he’s getting old for a racehorse, imagine the shame if he breaks down.
I heard a month ago he’s being brought back in order to race overseas, was praying it’s fake news. Why why why persist? One answer $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ + greed - compassion As to whether he secretly wants to renew his career - What horses REALLY love doing is hanging out in a paddock with their mates eating grass, and god knows he hasn’t had much of that. |
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“Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined”
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TJMitchell
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Had nothing to do with the instant backlash I'm sure
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Passing Through
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Rupert Legh, Chautauqua's managing owner, had a change of heart on Tuesday after stating there was a chance the horse could go back into work a few hours prior.
Legh told RadioTAB that Chautauqua could return to racing if he gained permission to trial from stewards. The owner then spoke to RSN in Melbourne and put out a vastly different message stating Chautauqua will never race again. “All I said (in the radio interview) was that a hell of a lot of water would have to flow under the bridge to even contemplate the first notion of a comeback,” Legh said. “Won’t happen. He’s retired. That’s the end of it. I should have made that clearer. http://www.racenet.com.au/news/is-chautauqua-coming-back-into-work-20190219 |
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Gay3
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Yes, that works real well as evidenced in his past ?? 6? barrier trials/jumpouts prior to which 'connections' stated he still wanted to race Crikey, anyone'd think you need a Doctorate in Animal Psychology to work out if he wanted to race or not |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Shrunk in the Wash
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acacia alba
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PS. He beat them what ? 8/10 times? but they are happy for him to make them look stupid again ?
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animals before people.
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breeding_above_all
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Hahaha, people questioning IF there is an issue...
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acacia alba
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So what do you think will have changed with age ??? Suddenly he is going to want to race again ? As you age do you want to come out of your comfort zone and go running around like a teenager ? Dont think so, and dont think he would want to either. Bit of common sense wouldnt hurt here .
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animals before people.
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Shrunk in the Wash
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That was then this is now
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TJMitchell
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This might have something to with it
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Shrunk in the Wash
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Sorry but unless you work with the horse, you have zero way of knowing that |
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Magnolian Khan
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He just doesn’t wanna do it anymore, its pretty simple.
When they don’t wanna do it, they won’t. |
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Passing Through
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I dont know why the horse doesn't want to leave the barriers and seemingly nobody else does either. Is he a safety risk should he jump and then decide mid race that he doesn't want to go any further as Pakistan Star did? What if that was in the middle of a field?
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TJMitchell
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It's obvious something wasn't right with the horse mentally.
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djebel
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What exactly is the welfare issue ? Are we saying racing is unsafe ? |
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reductio ad absurdum
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