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goldey
Champion Joined: 29 Dec 2012 Location: cairns Status: Offline Points: 5920 |
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Posted: 23 Dec 2013 at 12:27pm |
Having given my mare a rest this year , attention turns to an early service In 2014 , this stallion has grabbed me as a nice type and could suit a lot of different mares. Has any forumite got a foal or yearling by him and opinions on this only son of Montjeu in Australia , love his triple cross of Lulan, my only concern is lack of support , only 30 live foals in 2 years , will he become more attractive with Montjeu sons starting to hit there straps .
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Majestic
Champion Joined: 23 Mar 2013 Location: NSW Status: Offline Points: 1303 |
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Also like the horse himself. Race record slim with only Derby and C Cup 2nd. The lack of support might be due to the service fee. I know a mare owner can only ask, but wouldn't he be a more attractive option at say $5000 neg?
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goldey
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Does Bart do deals ?
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goldey
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Well , just had a bit of a look at Princes Farm's Roman Emperor lots , and I am pleasantly surprised , they look on the surfaced, pretty well put together. IMHO I reckon they might attract a bit of interest if they walk well.
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robbo
Champion Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1562 |
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A few of us have taken an interest in a Roman Emperor colt from the January Classic sale. In my view he was right up there as one of the best types in the sale. I wish they would make Roman Emperor commercially available.
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goldey
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whitt0
Champion Joined: 01 Jun 2014 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 10911 |
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That John Sargent colt looks outstanding. What a steal at $40k.
And he knows how to train a stayer! I didn't think the Roman E would be that fwd. Really questioning wether I go RE or Monaco Consul for my mare.
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robbo
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Yep - Lot 149.
I will try and attach a couple of photos from the sale. The only updates since then are videos and that is beyond my technical capability. |
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robbo
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https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6rgylRijOZE/U5a2i-5K8xI/AAAAAAAAABs/rztO4nSJP-E/s219-p/RomanEmperor3.jpg
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whitt0
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Hard to see in the photo. Its small.
Had a look at the Winter and 115 looks the best. Will be fascinated to see what they go for. Note the photos are on an angle. They dont look better than John Sargent's one.
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robbo
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AussieOi
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I love the look of his winter yearlings, I think they will run as 2yos, in the autumn/winter wich surprised me a great deal. If I cash id certainly be picking one up.
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Second Chance
Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Online Points: 45319 |
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Rff tells me that's Robbo himself at the top of the stairs on the right.
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whitt0
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Gees they look good. Bit high in the pasterns? I am not a conformation expert.
Goldey - looking good mate. |
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Second Chance
Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Online Points: 45319 |
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Reasonable call based on the shot Whitt0. However the camera, especially when the focus is mobile, can often be misleading. ps would invite people to view the shot of Excelebration in the "New Stallion at Coolmore" thread and have a look at his near hind pastern. A bit like some Sir T's I've seen in the past and some would shrink at the flex, others not. Is it just a fractional moment in time or a potential bumper problem? His performances would suggest not but then how many hard surfaces did he encounter. I feel momentarily like a Progold: so many questions, so few answers. But over to others on both Robbo's colt and Excelebration, if you really want to. |
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whitt0
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I had a look at Excellebration & again at the one above. Maybe its the camera shot - if not they are high on the RE one. Ex does not look that bad.
We are doing more promotion on here for RE than Princes Stud.
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songline
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Curious to your mare's pedigree whitt0 -is this the one by Canny Lad?
Camelot another son of Montjeu will be shuttling here but won't be cheap! |
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whitt0
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The broodmare is a Spinning World/Parada (Parade Ground). The last 2 generations have had some strange breeding considering the qualities from 3x back which are outstanding.
I also have 2 fillies Authorized/Sophielicious (Canny Lad). She went to the breakers yesterday and is a fine type. The other filly is Mossman/Zazita (Zabeel). She has a fantastic background and picked her up at the recent MM Yearlings. She was overlooked as she was a bit backward but had a great walk and legs fine. She apparently is very much a Zabeel type rather than Mossman. She will happily be out for a year to mature. Not in a rush. Plan to breed and retain post racing. |
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goldey
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Maybe if some one can google" Roman Emperor stallion" and check the photo They have supplied , not complimentary , his front pastern does look collapsed almost or maybe it is once again a moment in time ?
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whitt0
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Curios as to the real price for Camelot. I do worry about the shuttle stallions. Here then gone.
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goldey
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Hadn't seen this image before ! Reckon they should change it .
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whitt0
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If y go to race pix.com.au. Heap of pics for RE. His pasterns all look good and I think he was pretty sound.
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Progold
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There was a line that I think I first read in To Kill A Mockingbird that basically says that in many instances, you never ask a question that you don't already know the answer to.
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robbo
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robbo
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This is the Roman Emperor yearling at John Sargent's stables last weekend. Broken in, had ten days in the stables to get through the system, tipped out and been back in for a fortnight.
He is coping well with everything but is still "downhill" and gappy in the knees, so time will be his friend. |
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whitt0
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Nice Robbo. I think he will be underestimated.
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robbo
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This is the Roman Emperor with John Sargent - he has been in for about five weeks into his second prep, having had a good break. Pretty happy with him, especially given he is a mid-October foal and so is only a month past his second birthday.
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whitt0
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Looks a ripper!
I really like Roman Emperor.
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