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Posted: 23 Feb 2017 at 3:30pm |
I had some good wins with Purple. Taoina dam of Sovereign Red and Gurners Lane... That said probably a miler.
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Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 5:28pm |
DIAPASON (NZ) | Bay filly 2012 | |
Shocking Bay 2005 | Street Cry Bay or brown 1998 | Machiavellian Bay or brown 1987 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Coup de Folie Bay 1982 | Halo Raise the Standard | 1969 1978 | 2-d 2-d | Helen Street Bay 1982 | Troy Bay 1976 | Petingo La Milo | 1965 1963 | 22> 1-b | Waterway Chestnut 1976 | Riverman Boulevard | 1969 1968 | 10-a 1-l | Maria di Castiglia Bay 1994 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Macrina Pompea Chestnut 1985 | Don Roberto Chestnut 1977 | Roberto Exit Smiling | 1969 1970 | 12-c 1-s | Morbella Bay 1977 | Silly Season Right Bank | 1962 1967 | 1-g 2-o | Musicanna Bay 2001 | Cape Cross Bay or brown 1994 | Green Desert Bay 1983 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Foreign Courier Bay 1979 | Sir Ivor Courtly Dee | 1965 1968 | 8-g A4 | Park Appeal Bay or brown 1982 | Ahonoora Chestnut 1975 | Lorenzaccio Helen Nichols | 1965 1966 | 5-h 1-m | Balidaress Grey 1973 | Balidar Innocence | 1966 1968 | 8-d 14-c | Upend Bay 1985 | Main Reef Chestnut 1976 | Mill Reef Bay 1968 | Never Bend Milan Mill | 1960 1962 | 19-b 22-d | Lovely Light Chestnut 1966 | Henry the Seventh Queen of Light | 1958 1949 | 12-f 1-s | Gay Charlotte Bay 1971 | Charlottown Bay 1963 | Charlottesville Meld | 1957 1952 | 14-a 2-i | Merry Mate Bay 1963 | Ballymoss Gladness | 1954 1953 | 2-u 7-a |
| Ancestor duplications: | Danzig | 4m x 4m |
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Posted: 23 Jan 2018 at 11:43am |
Flaming Fast in the 3rd at Terang.
1200m as a midseason 3yo filly might be a little short but is such a succulent pedigree she is worth having a little eachway on her at the likely price.
The colted stablemate is also worth a try as he drifts in the market.
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Posted: 11 Feb 2018 at 12:25pm |
Of course as a mid season 3yo filly she kicks of over 1200m on a cement surface.
We wonder why our horses are not world class stayers ?
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So You Think Bay 2006 | High Chaparral Bay 1999 | Sadler's Wells Bay 1981 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Fairy Bridge Bay 1975 | Bold Reason Special | 1968 1969 | 19-b 5-h | Kasora Brown 1993 | Darshaan Brown 1981 | Shirley Heights Delsy | 1975 1972 | 1-l 13-c | Kozana Brown 1982 | Kris Koblenza | 1976 1966 | 2-o 1-n | Triassic Bay 1990 | Tights Bay 1981 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Flaming Page | 1961 1959 | 2-d 8-f | Dancealot Bay 1971 | Round Table Music Please | 1954 1963 | 2-f 16-g | Astral Row Brown 1979 | Long Row Brown 1970 | Linacre Front Row | 1960 1965 | 15-a 42> | Pak Bun Bay Bay 1970 | Matinee Idol Philipolo | 1956 1960 | 13-e 13-a | Keep de Fortune Bay 2006 | Galileo Bay 1998 | Sadler's Wells Bay 1981 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Fairy Bridge Bay 1975 | Bold Reason Special | 1968 1969 | 19-b 5-h | Urban Sea Chestnut 1989 | Miswaki Chestnut 1978 | Mr Prospector Hopespringseternal | 1970 1971 | 13-c 16-g | Allegretta Chestnut 1978 | Lombard Anatevka | 1967 1969 | 1-d 9-h | Danendri Bay 1993 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Stormy Exchange Bay or brown 1985 | Storm Bird Bay 1978 | Northern Dancer South Ocean | 1961 1967 | 2-d 4-j | Copperama Brown 1978 | Comeram Old Penny | 1973 1971 | 9-f 19> |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 4m,5m x 4m,5m,5m | | Sadler's Wells | 3m x 3m |
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Lord Hybrow
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Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 10:05am |
Ballarat today- Race 1 No 6 : MR WORLDWIDE
3yo by AMERICAIN (Melb Cup winner) out of a mare by AZZAAM (Sydney Cup winner).
Trained by Matt Cumani, debuted with a 4th over 1700m at Geelong and is 2nd up over 2300m today.
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Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 10:48am |
MR WORLDWIDE (AUS) | Grey gelding 2014 | |
Americain Bay or brown 2005 | Dynaformer Bay or brown 1985 | Roberto Bay 1969 | Hail to Reason Brown 1958 | Turn-To Nothirdchance | 1951 1948 | 1-w 4-n | Bramalea Bay or brown 1959 | Nashua Rarelea | 1952 1949 | 3-m 12-c | Andover Way Bay or brown 1978 | His Majesty Bay 1968 | Ribot Flower Bowl | 1952 1952 | 4-l 4-d | On the Trail Bay 1964 | Olympia Golden Trail | 1946 1958 | 4-p 4-r | America Chestnut 1997 | Arazi Chestnut 1989 | Blushing Groom Chestnut 1974 | Red God Runaway Bride | 1954 1962 | 8-c 22-d | Danseur Fabuleux Bay 1982 | Northern Dancer Fabuleux Jane | 1961 1974 | 2-d 7> | Green Rosy Bay or brown 1984 | Green Dancer Bay 1972 | Nijinsky Green Valley | 1967 1967 | 8-f 16-c | Round the Rosie Bay 1973 | Cornish Prince Rosayya | 1962 1952 | 1-s 1-n | Paris Song Grey 1999 | Azzaam Grey 1987 | Chief's Crown Bay 1982 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Six Crowns Chestnut 1976 | Secretariat Chris Evert | 1970 1971 | 2-s 23-b | Princess Oola Roan 1978 | Al Hattab Grey 1966 | The Axe Abyssinia | 1958 1953 | 1-s 7-a | Courtly Dee Bay or brown 1968 | Never Bend Tulle | 1960 1950 | 19-b A4 | Lover's Lyric Bay 1987 | Zoning Grey 1980 | Zephyr Bay Brown 1970 | Biscay Heavenly Wind | 1965 1958 | 2-o 22-b | Pre Empt Grey 1975 | Battle-Waggon Happy Fire | 1962 1959 | 3-o 12-g | Morning Serenade Bay or brown 1979 | Mark Anthony Grey 1972 | Supreme Sovereign Philene | 1964 1961 | 7> 2-n | Sing Again Chestnut 1973 | Recalled Chelise | 1967 1962 | 1-i 8-j |
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Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 12:49pm |
they look to need at least 2000m.
Interesting Derby/Oaks next season.....they should start to come to the fore
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Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 2:47pm |
Race 3 at Nowra today over 2200m - THE MIST
By excellent stamina stallion Raise The Flag from the famous old “THE” family that yielded the likes of The Phantom, The Phantom Chance, The Penny, The Twinkle and many others.
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Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 4:44pm |
think it might lose the protest but a bloody good run - might be one to follow. I thought the ride needed a bit more patience considering it was his second run back and a big step up in distance
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Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 4:55pm |
Lord Hybrow wrote:
Race 3 at Nowra today over 2200m - THE MIST
By excellent stamina stallion Raise The Flag from the famous old “THE” family that yielded the likes of The Phantom, The Phantom Chance, The Penny, The Twinkle and many others. | Ripper.....Protest dismissed It was a tough effort given she was stepping up from 1400m to 2200m. Hopefully a nice racing career ahead for this girl.
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Posted: 25 Apr 2018 at 5:13pm |
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Tavistock (NZ) Bay 2005 | Montjeu Bay 1996 | Sadler's Wells Bay 1981 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Fairy Bridge Bay 1975 | Bold Reason Special | 1968 1969 | 19-b 5-h | Floripedes Bay 1985 | Top Ville Bay 1976 | High Top Sega Ville | 1969 1968 | 11-a 8-i | Toute Cy Bay 1979 | Tennyson Adele Toumignon | 1970 1971 | 1-t 1-u | Upstage Bay 1998 | Quest for Fame Bay or brown 1987 | Rainbow Quest Bay 1981 | Blushing Groom I Will Follow | 1974 1975 | 22-d 14-f | Aryenne Bay 1977 | Green Dancer Americaine | 1972 1968 | 16-c 4-i | Pedestal Chestnut 1986 | High Line Chestnut 1966 | High Hat Time Call | 1957 1955 | 2-o 5-e | Mrs Moss Chestnut 1969 | Reform Golden Plate | 1964 1964 | 5-h 14-b | Penny Bright (NZ) Brown 2006 | Pentire Bay 1992 | Be My Guest Chestnut 1974 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | What a Treat Bay or brown 1962 | Tudor Minstrel Rare Treat | 1944 1952 | 9-c 8-c | Gull Nook Bay 1983 | Mill Reef Bay 1968 | Never Bend Milan Mill | 1960 1962 | 19-b 22-d | Bempton Bay 1976 | Blakeney Hardiemma | 1966 1969 | 20-c 1-l | Bright Beauty Brown 1998 | O'Reilly Brown 1993 | Last Tycoon Bay or brown 1983 | Try My Best Mill Princess | 1975 1977 | 8-f 8-c | Courtza Bay 1986 | Pompeii Court Hunza | 1977 1970 | 1-p 13-b | Splash of Beauty Chestnut 1990 | Luskin Star Chestnut 1974 | Kaoru Star Promising | 1965 1968 | 31> 2-e | Vanotrice Bay 1980 | Vain Toltrice | 1966 1969 | A10 43> |
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Just ran behind the placings in the 900m 2yo scamper at Sandown. Bound to improve over further. Oaks filly.
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Still going and about to go around again and is yet to see a staying trip.
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Posted: 25 Apr 2018 at 5:26pm |
St Leger pedigree running in the 1700m race.
ARKAMUN (AUS) | Bay or brown gelding 2014 | |
Starcraft Chestnut 2000 | Soviet Star Bay 1984 | Nureyev Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Special Bay 1969 | Forli Thong | 1963 1964 | 3-b 5-h | Veruschka Bay 1967 | Venture Brown 1957 | Relic Rose o' Lynn | 1945 1944 | 8-f 7> | Marie d'Anjou Chestnut 1954 | Vandale Marigold | 1943 1947 | 3-c 9-f | Flying Floozie Chestnut 1993 | Pompeii Court Bay 1977 | Tell Bay 1966 | Round Table Nas-Mahal | 1954 1959 | 2-f 2-f | Port Damascus Bay 1971 | Damascus Paris Pike | 1964 1957 | 8-h 1-p | Lucky Heiress Bay 1976 | Battle-Waggon Chestnut 1962 | Never Say Die Carrozza | 1951 1954 | 1-n 3-o | Entrancing Bell Bay 1965 | Bellborough Entrancing | 1954 1945 | 21-a 4-d | Drawbridge Bay 1998 | Rainbow Quest Bay 1981 | Blushing Groom Chestnut 1974 | Red God Chestnut 1954 | Nasrullah Spring Run | 1940 1948 | 9-c 8-c | Runaway Bride Bay 1962 | Wild Risk Aimee | 1940 1957 | 3-f 22-d | I Will Follow Bay 1975 | Herbager Bay 1956 | Vandale Flagette | 1943 1951 | 3-c 16-c | Where You Lead Chestnut 1970 | Raise a Native Noblesse | 1961 1960 | 8-f 14-f | City Fortress Roan 1983 | Troy Bay 1976 | Petingo Bay 1965 | Petition Alcazar | 1944 1957 | 16-g 22> | La Milo Chestnut 1963 | Hornbeam Pin Prick | 1953 1955 | 1-p 1-b | Queen's Castle Bay 1969 | Sovereign Path Grey 1956 | Grey Sovereign Mountain Path | 1948 1948 | 6-f 4-l | Country House Bay 1955 | Vieux Manoir Miss Coventry | 1947 1943 | 10-e 5-h |
| Ancestor duplications: | Vandale | 5f x 5m |
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Posted: 28 Apr 2018 at 2:14pm |
MICKEY BLUE EYES (AUS) | Bay or brown colt 2015 | |
Medaglia d'Oro Bay or brown 1999 | El Prado Grey 1989 | Sadler's Wells Bay 1981 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Fairy Bridge Bay 1975 | Bold Reason Special | 1968 1969 | 19-b 5-h | Lady Capulet Grey 1974 | Sir Ivor Bay 1965 | Sir Gaylord Attica | 1959 1953 | 2-s 8-g | Cap and Bells Grey 1958 | Tom Fool Ghazni | 1949 1942 | 3-j 1-l | Cappucino Bay Bay 1989 | Bailjumper Bay 1974 | Damascus Bay 1964 | Sword Dancer Kerala | 1956 1958 | 1-o 8-h | Court Circuit Bay 1964 | Royal Vale Cycle | 1948 1958 | 9-e 13-c | Dubbed In Chestnut 1973 | Silent Screen Chestnut 1967 | Prince John Prayer Bell | 1953 1954 | 14-f 9-b | Society Singer Chestnut 1968 | Restless Wind Social Position | 1956 1964 | 5-g 9-b | Carolina Bella Bay 2006 | Zabeel Bay 1986 | Sir Tristram Bay 1971 | Sir Ivor Bay 1965 | Sir Gaylord Attica | 1959 1953 | 2-s 8-g | Isolt Bay 1961 | Round Table All My Eye | 1954 1954 | 2-f 6-e | Lady Giselle Bay 1982 | Nureyev Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Special | 1961 1969 | 2-d 5-h | Valderna Bay 1972 | Val de Loir Derna | 1959 1961 | 5-h 16-c | Wyndam Special Brown 1997 | Centaine Brown 1980 | Century Brown 1969 | Better Boy Royal Suite | 1951 1960 | 2-n 20> | Rainbeam Bay 1973 | Vain Rain Shadow | 1966 1967 | A10 C7 | Mwaared Bay 1991 | Unfuwain Bay 1985 | Northern Dancer Height of Fashion | 1961 1979 | 2-d 2-f | Nouvelle Star Chestnut 1980 | Luskin Star Bonne Nouvelle | 1974 1971 | 2-e 6-b |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 4m x 5m,5m | | Special | 5f x 5m | | Sir Ivor | 4f x 4m |
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Posted: 04 May 2018 at 11:27am |
Did anyone note that Fastnet Rock (who could hardly stay 1200m) sired the winner of the Sagaro Stakes (2 mile) at Ascot. Won by five lengths with another three to the third horse. Beat horses by Motivator, Tamayuz, Yeats, Sea the Stars etc.
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Posted: 04 May 2018 at 11:31am |
And Torcedoris owned by NZers.
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Posted: 04 May 2018 at 2:51pm |
Also doesn't anyway find it funny that the Queen Mother Memorial Cup over 2400m in HK at the weekend has two Aussie breds, one Irish, one USA, one NZ, one German, one French and on Argentine bred runners.
Who knows they might run last but there are two to one New Zealander so our stayers might be going to Asia. Who knows. They do like buying the Queensland Derby winner.
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Posted: 04 May 2018 at 2:59pm |
Our stayers are still here, Our trainers fail to develop them.
Watch how inconsistent both Furrion and Fifty Stars become under the tutelage of supposedly the best trainer in Australia become.
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Posted: 09 Aug 2018 at 2:38pm |
SWEETEST EYES (AUS) | Bay filly 2014 | |
Your Song Brown 2009 | Fastnet Rock Bay 2001 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Piccadilly Circus Bay 1995 | Royal Academy Bay 1987 | Nijinsky Crimson Saint | 1967 1969 | 8-f 8-c | Gatana Bay 1989 | Marauding Twigalae | 1984 1979 | 4-i 2-f | Zembu Bay 1999 | Fuji Kiseki Bay 1992 | Sunday Silence Brown 1986 | Halo Wishing Well | 1969 1975 | 2-d 3-e | Millracer Bay 1983 | Le Fabuleux Marston's Mill | 1961 1975 | 13-c 22-d | Wanice Bay 1995 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Jood Bay 1989 | Nijinsky Kamar | 1967 1976 | 8-f 14-c | Maghreb Brown 2007 | Dubawi Bay 2002 | Dubai Millennium Bay 1996 | Seeking the Gold Bay 1985 | Mr Prospector Con Game | 1970 1974 | 13-c 5-c | Colorado Dancer Bay or brown 1986 | Shareef Dancer Fall Aspen | 1980 1976 | 4-r 4-m | Zomaradah Bay 1995 | Deploy Bay 1987 | Shirley Heights Slightly Dangerous | 1975 1979 | 1-l 14-f | Jawaher Bay 1989 | Dancing Brave High Tern | 1983 1982 | 3-d 9-e | Danse d'Ecole Brown 2001 | Daylami Grey 1994 | Doyoun Bay 1985 | Mill Reef Dumka | 1968 1971 | 22-d 21-a | Daltawa Grey 1989 | Miswaki Damana | 1978 1981 | 16-g 9-e | Dance of Leaves Bay 1987 | Sadler's Wells Bay 1981 | Northern Dancer Fairy Bridge | 1961 1975 | 2-d 5-h | Fall Aspen Chestnut 1976 | Pretense Change Water | 1963 1969 | 3-i 4-m |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 5m x 5m | | Nijinsky | 5m,5f x | | Mr Prospector | 4f x 5m | | | | Fall Aspen | x 5f,4f |
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Posted: 19 Aug 2018 at 4:46pm |
Anyone notice the winner of Race 3 at Pakenham today - ALESSANSRO.
Made his debut over 1400m and rounded the field up nicely to win.
He’s by Fiorente out of a Galileo half sister to The Offer, who won a Sydney Cup a few years ago.
It would be nice to see some of these Fiorente’s, Americains & Lucas Cranach’s graduate to Derby’s & Oaks races this season.
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Posted: 19 Aug 2018 at 8:24pm |
Good call LH.
ps though early doors the word is Fiorente is already proving far more likely to produce stayers with genuine speed than has Americain to date.
Sadly LC will probably struggle re opportunity.
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Posted: 19 Sep 2018 at 8:32am |
Not that I think she can win today, check out the awesome breeding on FLAGPOLES in Race 4 at Warwick Farm.
By HIGH CHAPARRAL out of a full sister to Melb Cup winner BREW - whose dam was of course the Japan Cup winner HORLICKS.
That entire ‘FROTH’ damline is just littered with good stayers over the past few decades.
Hopefully FLAGPOLES can ultimately be a late maturing stayer and end up winning a few races herself.
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Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 4:19pm |
CHABA CHARLI (AUS) | Bay gelding 2014 | |
Shocking Bay 2005 | Street Cry Bay or brown 1998 | Machiavellian Bay or brown 1987 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Coup de Folie Bay 1982 | Halo Raise the Standard | 1969 1978 | 2-d 2-d | Helen Street Bay 1982 | Troy Bay 1976 | Petingo La Milo | 1965 1963 | 22> 1-b | Waterway Chestnut 1976 | Riverman Boulevard | 1969 1968 | 10-a 1-l | Maria di Castiglia Bay 1994 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Macrina Pompea Chestnut 1985 | Don Roberto Chestnut 1977 | Roberto Exit Smiling | 1969 1970 | 12-c 1-s | Morbella Bay 1977 | Silly Season Right Bank | 1962 1967 | 1-g 2-o | Honorjeu Bay 2004 | Montjeu Bay 1996 | Sadler's Wells Bay 1981 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Fairy Bridge Bay 1975 | Bold Reason Special | 1968 1969 | 19-b 5-h | Floripedes Bay 1985 | Top Ville Bay 1976 | High Top Sega Ville | 1969 1968 | 11-a 8-i | Toute Cy Bay 1979 | Tennyson Adele Toumignon | 1970 1971 | 1-t 1-u | Honor Bound Brown 1997 | Honor Grades Bay 1988 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Weekend Surprise Bay 1980 | Secretariat Lassie Dear | 1970 1974 | 2-s 3-l | Amrica Chestnut 1978 | Amalgam Bay 1972 | Damascus Charming Alibi | 1964 1963 | 8-h 13-c | Fabrica Chestnut 1966 | Oakville Trinciato | 1958 1955 | 7> C18 |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 5m x 4m,5m | | Danzig | 4m x 4m |
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Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 4:37pm |
It's not like Europe doesn't run two year olds. THey have smaller crops but I think more come out at two. Just take today. The entire Irish meeting was mad up of 8 races with 124 runners and 43 first time runners. And every one was a two year old. The brits weren't quite as bad they had 8 2yo races today with 88 starters. We can do that in a day around AUstralia in April but I don't think we have an entire meeting made up of two year olds (with only one race with less than 10 runners - 8 runners). One had 20 runners another had 19. Six of the eight races had more than 16 runners. Doesn't stop them developing stayers. You can run stayers as two year olds we just seem to have forgotten that despite winning a two year old race you can then as you mature get out over further.
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Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 4:46pm |
furious wrote:
It's not like Europe doesn't run two year olds. THey have smaller crops but I think more come out at two. Just take today. The entire Irish meeting was mad up of 8 races with 124 runners and 43 first time runners. And every one was a two year old. The brits weren't quite as bad they had 8 2yo races today with 88 starters. We can do that in a day around AUstralia in April but I don't think we have an entire meeting made up of two year olds (with only one race with less than 10 runners - 8 runners). One had 20 runners another had 19. Six of the eight races had more than 16 runners. Doesn't stop them developing stayers. You can run stayers as two year olds we just seem to have forgotten that despite winning a two year old race you can then as you mature get out over further. |
And amongst that was a 2yo handicap where the spread was 11 kgs 63.5 kgs down to 52.5.
They do not mind their horses carrying weight.
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Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 11:57am |
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Dansili Bay or brown 1996 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Pas de Nom Bay or brown 1968 | Admiral's Voyage Petitioner | 1959 1952 | 4-n 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Bay 1968 | Ribot Flower Bowl | 1952 1952 | 4-l 4-d | Spring Adieu Bay 1974 | Buckpasser Natalma | 1963 1957 | 1-s 2-d | Hasili Bay 1991 | Kahyasi Bay 1985 | Ile de Bourbon Bay 1975 | Nijinsky Roseliere | 1967 1965 | 8-f 4-i | Kadissya Bay 1979 | Blushing Groom Kalkeen | 1974 1974 | 22-d 5-e | Kerali Chestnut 1984 | High Line Chestnut 1966 | High Hat Time Call | 1957 1955 | 2-o 5-e | Sookera Bay or brown 1975 | Roberto Irule | 1969 1968 | 12-c 11> | Aliante Chestnut 2009 | Sir Percy Bay 2003 | Mark of Esteem Bay 1993 | Darshaan Brown 1981 | Shirley Heights Delsy | 1975 1972 | 1-l 13-c | Homage Bay 1989 | Ajdal Home Love | 1984 1976 | 7> 17-b | Percy's Lass Bay or brown 1984 | Blakeney Bay 1966 | Hethersett Windmill Girl | 1959 1961 | 21-a 20-c | Laughing Girl Bay 1973 | Sassafras Violetta | 1967 1958 | 8-c 3-c | Alexandrine Bay 1997 | Nashwan Chestnut 1986 | Blushing Groom Chestnut 1974 | Red God Runaway Bride | 1954 1962 | 8-c 22-d | Height of Fashion Bay 1979 | Bustino Highclere | 1971 1971 | 1-w 2-f | Alruccaba Grey 1983 | Crystal Palace Grey 1974 | Caro Hermieres | 1967 1958 | 3-o 10-e | Allara Grey 1973 | Zeddaan Nucciolina | 1965 1957 | 11-g 9-c |
| Ancestor duplications: | Natalma | 5m,5f x | | Blushing Groom | 5f x 4m |
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Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 11:58am |
NASSIPOUR (USA) | Chestnut colt 1980 | |
Blushing Groom Chestnut 1974 | Red God Chestnut 1954 | Nasrullah Bay 1940 | Nearco Brown 1935 | Pharos Nogara | 1920 1928 | 13-e 4-r | Mumtaz Begum Bay 1932 | Blenheim Mumtaz Mahal | 1927 1921 | 1-e 9-c | Spring Run Bay 1948 | Menow Bay or brown 1935 | Pharamond Alcibiades | 1925 1927 | 6-e 8-g | Boola Brook Bay 1937 | Bull Dog Brookdale | 1927 1921 | 16-a 8-c | Runaway Bride Bay 1962 | Wild Risk Bay 1940 | Rialto Chestnut 1923 | Rabelais La Grelee | 1900 1918 | 14-a 12-b | Wild Violet Bay 1935 | Blandford Wood Violet | 1919 1928 | 3-o 3-f | Aimee Bay 1957 | Tudor Minstrel Brown 1944 | Owen Tudor Sansonnet | 1938 1933 | 10-b 9-c | Emali Bay 1945 | Umidwar Eclair | 1931 1930 | 3-e 22-d | Alama Bay 1969 | Aureole Chestnut 1950 | Hyperion Chestnut 1930 | Gainsborough Bay 1915 | Bayardo Rosedrop | 1906 1907 | 10-a 2-n | Selene Bay 1919 | Chaucer Serenissima | 1900 1913 | 1-g 6-e | Angelola Bay 1945 | Donatello Chestnut 1934 | Blenheim Delleana | 1927 1925 | 1-e 14-c | Feola Brown 1933 | Friar Marcus Aloe | 1912 1926 | 20> 2-f | Nucciolina Bay 1957 | Nuccio Bay 1948 | Traghetto Chestnut 1942 | Cavaliere d'Arpino Talma | 1926 1933 | 4-p 1-n | Nuvoletta Bay 1941 | Muzio Neve | 1933 1933 | 16-b 4-j | Mah Behar Bay 1952 | Bois Roussel Brown 1935 | Vatout Plucky Liege | 1926 1912 | 3-c 16-a | Mah Iran Grey 1939 | Bahram Mah Mahal | 1932 1928 | 16-a 9-c |
| Ancestor duplications: | Blenheim | 5f x 5m |
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djebel
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Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 12:10pm |
QADIRA (AUS) | Bay filly 2015 | |
Bullet Train Bay 2007 | Sadler's Wells Bay 1981 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Brown 1954 | Nearco Lady Angela | 1935 1944 | 4-r 14-c | Natalma Bay 1957 | Native Dancer Almahmoud | 1950 1947 | 5-f 2-d | Fairy Bridge Bay 1975 | Bold Reason Bay 1968 | Hail to Reason Lalun | 1958 1952 | 4-n 19-b | Special Bay 1969 | Forli Thong | 1963 1964 | 3-b 5-h | Kind Bay 2001 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Rainbow Lake Bay 1990 | Rainbow Quest Bay 1981 | Blushing Groom I Will Follow | 1974 1975 | 22-d 14-f | Rockfest Chestnut 1979 | Stage Door Johnny Rock Garden | 1965 1970 | 1-l 1-k | Abu Zayan Bay 2004 | Mark of Esteem Bay 1993 | Darshaan Brown 1981 | Shirley Heights Bay 1975 | Mill Reef Hardiemma | 1968 1969 | 22-d 1-l | Delsy Brown 1972 | Abdos Kelty | 1959 1965 | 1-e 13-c | Homage Bay 1989 | Ajdal Bay 1984 | Northern Dancer Native Partner | 1961 1966 | 2-d 7> | Home Love Bay 1976 | Vaguely Noble Homespun | 1965 1969 | 1-d 17-b | Always Far Bay or brown 1989 | Alydar Chestnut 1975 | Raise a Native Chestnut 1961 | Native Dancer Raise You | 1950 1946 | 5-f 8-f | Sweet Tooth Bay 1965 | On-And-On Plum Cake | 1956 1958 | 23-b 9-c | Fairy Footsteps Bay 1978 | Mill Reef Bay 1968 | Never Bend Milan Mill | 1960 1962 | 19-b 22-d | Glass Slipper Bay 1969 | Relko Crystal Palace | 1960 1956 | 16-g 1-s |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 3m,5m x 5m | | Native Dancer | 5f x 5m | | Mill Reef | x 5m,4f |
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Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 9:25pm |
Hello, the pedigree of "Wristband" is from a very successful Family branch in Europe. As example see Alborada (Alzao)/Albanova (Alzao), Quartermoon (Sadlers Wells), Yesterday (Sadlers Wells), Diamondsandrubies (Fastnet Rock), All My Loving (Sadlers Wells), How High the Moon (Fastnet Rock), All at Sea (Sea the Stars), Allegretto (Galileo) etc. Most of the above horses were bred by Mrs. Kirsten Rausing (Lanwades Stud). If I remember correctly Albanova or her FS won races in Germany. regards, Ticino
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Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 9:27pm |
Hello, sorry, I forgot to mention, a gelding from the same branch named "(My) Nordic Hero" (by Archipenko) was sent to AUS. regards, Ticino
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Posted: 14 Nov 2018 at 2:14pm |
Djebel, You must be slipping or maybe it's been the hectic spring carnival ( ) but how did you miss this one-Wolfe. I can't post the pedigree but by Novellist from a Sunday Silence mare with a common tail line to Dunaden. Just saw it's debut at Kembla over 1400m and looked impressive for a 1st starter. Runs in 7th today at hawkesbury over 1600m.
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