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I noticed some alarmist garbage written about how much the melting of it would raise the sea level.....and did not mention till the very end that it would make no difference, as it was already floating.
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The four lifestyle choices that most reduce your carbon footprint

A new study has identified the four actions that would have the greatest impact on an individual’s greenhouse gas emissions: eating a plant-based diet, avoiding air travel, living car free, and having fewer children.
The comprehensive study analysed 39 peer-reviewed articles, carbon calculators and government sources to quantify the most high-impact personal lifestyle choices in developed countries.

“There are so many factors that affect the climate impact of personal choices, but bringing all these studies side-by-side gives us confidence we’ve identified actions that make a big difference. Those of us who want to step forward on climate need to know how our actions can have the greatest possible impact. This research is about helping people make more informed choices,” says lead author Seth Wynes.

The study found that, on average, eating a plant-based diet saves about 0.8 tonnes CO2-equivalents per year. Each roundtrip transatlantic flight avoided saves 1.6 tonnes, and living car-free for a year saves 2.4 tonnes.

To put this in context, per capita carbon dioxide emissions should not exceed 2.1 tonnes annually by the year 2050 - if the goal of limiting the global temperature increase to well below two degrees Celsius is to be achieved.

Family size also mattered: when accounting for the impact of future descendants at current emission rates, having one fewer child would save 58.6 tonnes per year. However, reducing overall national emissions could make the climate impact of an additional child up to 17 times less.

The study also found that the four key actions identified are usually missed in government recommendations and high school textbooks, which instead tend to advocate small, incremental changes, such as recycling or switching to reusable shopping bags.

But according to the study, eating a plant-based diet saves about 4 times more greenhouse gas emissions per year than recycling. Avoiding just one transatlantic flight saves 8 times more, and living car-free saves 11 times more. Similarly, switching from plastic to canvas bags is less than 1% as effective for the climate as a year without consuming meat.

Kimberly Nicholas, associate professor at Lund University Centre for Sustainability Studies and study co-author, says, “We recognize that these are deeply personal choices. But we can’t ignore the climate effect our lifestyle actually has. Personally, I’ve found it really positive to make many of these changes. It’s especially important for young people establishing lifelong patterns to be aware which choices have the biggest impact. We hope this information sparks discussion and empowers individuals,” she concludes.




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From July 1, Sydney prices climbed 15 to 20 per cent, Adelaide prices 16 to 20 per cent, and Canberra prices 19 per cent. Melbourne prices rise on January 1. After introduction of the carbon tax in 2012, prices jumped 19.3 per cent in Sydney and 23 per cent in Melbourne.

"When the rises flow through, retail prices will be the highest ever in real as well as nominal terms," writes Australian National University specialist Hugh Saddler in a report to be released on Thursday by the Australia Institute.

Graphing the price movements for South Australia, the state with the highest proportion of wind energy, against its reliance on wind energy, Dr Saddler finds "absolutely no relationship between the two".

South Australian wholesale prices have moved both down and up as the share of wind power grew to 45 per cent. Ahead of the latest increase, real prices in South Australia were lower than they were a decade earlier when the share of wind generators was only 5 per cent

"More detailed analysis shows that market wholesale prices are consistently lower when there is a high level of wind generation, than when there is little wind. Over the past four or five years in the South Australia wholesale market, volume weighted prices received by wind generators have been around 20 to 30 per cent lower than volume weighted average prices for the market as a whole."

In contrast, the correlation between wholesale electricity and gas prices is "striking". Both move down and up together.

"Higher wholesale electricity prices, and hence higher retail prices are almost entirely caused by higher gas prices," Dr Saddler concludes.


http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/hugh-saddler-its-gas-not-renewables-that-is-pushing-up-electricity-prices-20170712-gx9vvm.html

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SURPRISE ...     John Howard confirmed he was never taken in by climate Change but kept an open mind .
TODAY he is a sceptic.
Take note Mr Turnbull as you gradually rot away.
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... but 97% of Prime Ministers can't be lying, can they?Shocked
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

SURPRISE ...     John Howard confirmed he was never taken in by climate Change but kept an open mind .
TODAY he is a sceptic.
Take note Mr Turnbull as you gradually rot away.

Everybody knew weather vane Howard only went as far as he did because that was the way the wind was blowing at the time.
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World’s First Energy-Generating Street Hits London

Jul 5, 2017 | Current Events with ElectricityElectricity and Energy Innovations 

In a world where green energy is making an impact in today’s society, (due to issues/topics like global warming, pollution, conservation, healthy living, etc.) it’s not surprising that we finally can see the world’s first energy-generating street debut in the 21st century. 

The world’s first energy-generating “smart street” is now in London on Bird Street, thanks to the clean-tech company, Pavegen. Bird Street is located just off of Oxford, a busy shopping street in London, and one of the busiest in the world. 

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Source: http://inhabitat.com/pavegen-unveils-worlds-first-energy-harvesting-smart-street-in-london/

 

 

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Source: http://inhabitat.com/pavegen-unveils-worlds-first-energy-harvesting-smart-street-in-london/

 

Pavegen’s innovation consists of a 107 square foot “pavement” with an implanted transmitter and generator. When pedestrians walk on this energy-generating street, their footsteps will create electricity for lighting and background bird sounds along Bird Street (hence the name).

Fun fact: one person walking continuously on one array of Pavegen can generate 5 watts of energy.

How does this work? The vibration from footsteps of those walking on this energy-generating street creates kinetic energy which can be converted into electrical power. Simple as that! The implanted transmitters that are also in the flooring system allow for data analytics for an assortment of things. For a more in-depth description of the technology and the Pavegen company, take a look at this video:


This isn’t Pavegen’s first rodeo. The company has implemented their technology in over 150 projects around the world since their inception in 2009, including areas that are impacting the lives of people in developing countries:

  • A tiled area in an airport terminal in London (Heathrow Airport’s Terminal 3)
  • A 200-tile soccer field in a poverty-stricken area of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. The stored energy at night when the sun goes down is able to power the floodlights for children to use the field.
  • A 100-tile football field, also powered by solar energy, at the Federal College of Education in Lagos, Nigeria. 
  • A 68-tile walkway in Sandton City Mall in South Africa, able to provide stored power for a technology classroom in Sunrise Secondary School in Diepsloot, a local village.
  • A 14-tile walkway at a train station in Northern France (St. Omer Station), able to light up LEDs under the benches and provide electricity for USB charging stations.
  • An 8-tile install in a U.S. school (Bloomington School in Indiana), able to power educational boards and a phone charging station.
  • A 240 square foot installation on the sidewalk of the Dupont Circle in Washington, D.C. 

The list goes on…and now with an actual “street”, Pavegen is leading the way for providing a clean energy source with just a few steps of our feet. How cool is that? 

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Would love to see the economics on that above PT....high initial capital cost + high on-going repairs & maintenance vs. a piddly bit of power generated = a long way to go me thinks ! 
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:


Would love to see the economics on that above PT....high initial capital cost + high on-going repairs & maintenance vs. a piddly bit of power generated = a long way to go me thinks ! 


There won't be any costs to compare .   Same with the SA battery joke.

   We know by our power bills who is paying for the delusions of the "Al Gore" infested brain wash people , that has the flow on effect..    
A sneaky way of reducing welfare , Low wage earners and destroying small business.
This climate delusion is the worst hoax of my lifetime.
    
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That walk way looks bloody odd. You almost have to go off the beaten track to get on it ConfusedConfused
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I wonder how many times those models had to walk up and down to get that shotLOL
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Would love to see the economics on that above PT....high initial capital cost + high on-going repairs & maintenance vs. a piddly bit of power generated = a long way to go me thinks ! 

We have come a long way from Icarus to the F-22 Raptor. You have to start somewhere.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:


Would love to see the economics on that above PT....high initial capital cost + high on-going repairs & maintenance vs. a piddly bit of power generated = a long way to go me thinks ! 


We have come a long way from Icarus to the F-22 Raptor. You have to start somewhere.


But we don't have to revert back to it.
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Al Gore got an award from Melbourne University ,   Andrew Bolt said last night ,must be for all the mistakes he has made , nine wrong predictions .
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Originally posted by hatch hatch wrote:

Al Gore got an award from Melbourne University ,   Andrew Bolt said last night ,must be for all the mistakes he has made , nine wrong predictions .


   Hello Hatch , Nice to see you .
Al Gore is a Madman and given accepted percentages of our population , 25% will listen to him on Insanity grounds alone.
   I noted his good mate Trevolta was caught bonking his mate recently and that upset the wife. Is that what climate change does for us.
His private jet spews out a fair trail of "global warming"
BUT all that is now normal.
Al is working on another movie I believe ,   To rectify those 9 imagination errors .     Never give up while the dollars are rolling in.
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Batteries fail to spark

Elon Musk is such a good salesman that, despite formidable and blindingly obvious problems, he has managed to convince everyone that batteries and electric vehicles will fix all our energy and supposed pollution problems.

A man who runs an electric car manufacturing company with a share price bid up so high by investors that, at the time of writing, its market capitalisation is comparable to that of General Motors, despite having less than one per cent of the production volume, has to be a good salesman. But Musk’s stand out skill is in extracting largesse from governments around the world.

An indication of his ability to do this is Musk’s Tesla Motors and French wind farm developer Neoen winning a South Australian government tender to build a battery capable of supplying up to 100 megawatts for an hour and 18 minutes. The media was so busy reporting sound bites from Musk that the project was part of the energy future, details such as how much the project would cost the taxpayer were not thought worth mentioning.

About all that taxpayers had to go on in finding out just how much of their money the South Australian government is spending is a chance comment by Musk that if his company does not fill a previous pledge by him that the battery will be built in 100 days of agreeing on a grid connection or it’s free, then he would be out of pocket by $50 million. Another, unsourced estimate given in a list, is that the project will cost about $66 million. The financial details of the agreement are otherwise confidential – a point mentioned in passing in the occasional story.

There was no cost comparison between this battery project and steps the SA government has already taken to stabilise its grid after previous disasters, including keeping 200 megawatts of diesel power on standby, and putting the 239 MW Pelican Point gas plant back in service – power sources that will not go flat after little more than an hour. Nothing was said about how a battery might compare with a pumped hydro project for storing energy, or about the carbon life cycle of the lithium ion battery, which has been the subject of some discussion.

Musk-Neoen’s battery and another, possibly larger battery to be built by the Lyon Group next to a solar farm also in South Australia, are far larger than battery projects announced to date in the US and Europe, and may take some of the edge off price swings in a state with a lot of renewable energy. But if the state government was really interested in smoothing out price peaks they could have permitted an entrepreneur to buy a used 200 megawatt diesel generator which this author saw offered on Alibaba for $US25 million, and sell the output from that onto the grid when prices spike during summer.

Instead, everyone seems entranced by Musk’s grand visions for the electricity and car industry, which include electric cars sweeping away petrol engine vehicles – a vision which also does not stand up to a hard-eyed comparison of cost and convenience to the consumer. The many enthusiastic proponents of EVs, for example, point to sales successes in various countries as proof of the car’s acceptance by consumers. A closer look shows that the success is due to government subsidies.

This point was starkly illustrated in Denmark. In 2015, Danish consumers bought nearly 5,740 of the Tesla S but in 2016 when the government announced it would end a generous tax exemption for electric cars (petrol driven cars are taxed 180 per cent tax of their price) sales collapsed to just 176 units in 2016. In China, sales of new energy vehicles, which include electric and hybrid cars, plunged 74 per cent in January after the government decided to cut subsidies.

EVs remain expensive and so not the first choice of consumers but will the Tesla 3, priced at $US35,000 ($A46,000) not counting any taxes or subsidies, change that? That price tag is certainly more attractive than the Tesla S ($150,000 plus for a used model in Australia), but still double the price of a humble but reliable Toyota Corolla which can be refuelled in a few minutes, cheaply in any country town.

Just as government changes to the rules have resulted in enormous batteries somehow becoming desirable, more rule changes may force consumers into electrics or hybrids. In mid-July, the Australian government released a proposed emission standard that would stop the sales of all the popular cheap cars, in an effort to meet the Paris climate change targets. Volvo certainly seems to be anticipating a market change by declaring that any future models it releases will be electric or hybrids. However, following Volvo’s announcement analysts were quick to point out that the car maker will still be making petrol cars for many years, until existing models are changed or updated. They also pointed out that sales of petrol hungry SUVs and pick up trucks have surged in the US, in part thanks to cheap petrol.

Whatever happens in either the automotive or electricity markets, Musk’s companies will be there and governments will be subsidising their activities. As the Los Angeles Times reported in July, the state of New York is spending $750 million to build a solar panel-making plant for Musk’s company SolarCity (home solar systems) which the company will lease for $1 a year and not pay property taxes for a decade. The company, which like Tesla has yet to turn a profit, also received $US497.5 million in direct grants from the US Treasury among other assistance. Tesla’s main plant for assembling the lithium ion batteries for its cars is literally in the middle of the Nevada desert because that American state won a bidding war for the factory, by promising the equivalent of $US1.3 billion in foregone taxes, cash grants and land.

The Australian federal and state governments may not yet have handed Musk lavish grants as American state and federal governments have, but the lack of disclosure and public scrutiny of the battery deal is an ominous sign of the future.Mark Lawson22 July 2017


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I doubt I've seen batteries as a real success at anything.
The girls might get a recharge from them but really ,   We can't even rely on the car battery more often than not.
I have to recharge mine regularly ( few miles in the car these days so they die very quickly )
This SA farce is ( I told you so ) in very short time .
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I see NSW gov't is doctoring the figures , unnecessary and just gives ammo to the deniers Unhappy
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

I see NSW gov't is doctoring the figures , unnecessary and just gives ammo to the deniers Unhappy


I'm sure your a battery denier too Whale .   You are a realist when serious.    I'm brown nosing.
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Can't wait to find out just what Elon Musk will actually make money out of, other than subsidies from stupid, naive governments ... one of the great Snake Oil Salesmen of our time.
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Spectator again Isaac?

You got it right again PT.  Ermm

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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Can't wait to find out just what Elon Musk will actually make money out of, other than subsidies from stupid, naive governments ... one of the great Snake Oil Salesmen of our time.


POTUS is a better one
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Spectator again Isaac?

You got it right again PT.  Ermm


Shouldn't criticize pt, i would be generating a lot of viewers and continuing your education sc.

I have looked at the guardian, not much there at this stageLOL
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Can't wait to find out just what Elon Musk will actually make money out of, other than subsidies from stupid, naive governments ... one of the great Snake Oil Salesmen of our time.


POTUS is a better one

So you're admitting that Musk is a conman then Whale, although you don't rate him highly.
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

I see NSW gov't is doctoring the figures , unnecessary and just gives ammo to the deniers Unhappy

On the day they announce the hottest July on record ... was it?Embarrassed

There have often been accusations of data fraud relating to global temperatures.

Seems the vested interests really are happy to remove a recording here and change one there, in their obsession to "PROVE THE CLIMATE LIES" regardless of the facts ...Angry

BoM opens cold case on temperature data


The Bureau of Meteorology has ordered a full review of temperature recording equipment and procedures after the peak weather agency was caught tampering with cold winter temperature logs in at least two locations.

The bureau has admitted that a problem with recording very low temperatures is more widespread than Goulburn and the Snowy Mountains but rejected it has ­attempted to manipulate temperature records.

The bureau’s chief executive, Andrew Johnson, has called for an urgent review and the immediate replacement of recording equipment at a number of undisclosed sites. The action was outlined in a letter to federal Environment Minister Josh Frydenberg and follows weeks of turmoil over why data showing minus 10.4C readings at Goulburn and Thredbo went missing.

Bush meteorologist Lance Pidgeon blew the whistle on the missing data after watching the minus 10.4C Goulburn recording from July 2 disappear from the bureau’s website. “The temperature dropped to minus 10.4, stayed there for some time and then it changed to minus 10 and then it disappeared,” Mr Pidgeon said.

He relayed his concerns to scientist Jennifer Marohasy, who has queried the bureau’s treatment of historical temperature data. After questions were asked, the bureau restored the original recording of minus 10.4C to its website. A bureau spokeswoman said the low recording had been checked for “quality assurance” before being posted.

The bureau said limits were set on how low temperatures could go at some stations before a manual check was needed to confirm them. “The bureau’s quality ­control system, designed to filter out spurious low or high values was set at minus 10 minimum for Goulburn which is why the record automatically adjusted,” a bureau spokeswoman said. WTF??? ... designed to filter out COLD TEMPERATURES, you mean!!!Clap


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Well I watch the news each night and listen to the record hot days most months.  Just tell the truth I'm freezing at the moment after boiling through summer.  In Emu we've had apparently the hottest and coldest days in the same year so that's enough for me.  I'm cold at the moment and funny enough through summer I was hot.
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I remember the 2nd of August 1967 vividly and today definitely felt .5C warmer than that day
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