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Tlazolteotl
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They regret ever planting Aussie Eucalyptus trees in California. Selected for flammability? At very high temperatures, eucalypt species release a flammable gas that mixes with air to send fireballs exploding out in front of the fire. With eucalyptus, you see these ember attacks, with huge bursts of sparks shooting out of the forests, Bowman says. “It’s just an extraordinary idea for a plant.” Though it’s difficult to prove, Bowman suspects the trees evolved to be “uber flammable.” Sixty million years ago eucalyptus species hit on a way to recover from intense fire, he explains, using specialized structures hidden deep within their bark that allow rapid recovery through new branches, instead of re-sprouting from the roots like other trees. “They have this adaptive advantage of not having to rebuild their trunk. Whether their oil-rich foliage is also an adaptation, we don’t know.” If you aren’t familiar with the idea of a plant designed to burn in its life cycle, you can get fooled by its beauty and nice smell, Bowman says. “But on a really hot day, those things are going to burn like torches and shower our suburbs with sparks. And on an extremely hot day, they’re going to shoot out gas balls.” With tiny pinhead seeds that germinate only in disturbed soils, the trees really aren’t good invaders, Bowman says--with one exception. “Fire opens up the woody capsules that hold the seeds, which love growing on freshly burned soil. Give a hillside a really good torching and the eucalyptus will absolutely dominate. They’ll grow intensively in the first few years of life and outcompete everything.” The evolutionary dimensions of fire ecology are controversial, Bowman allows. “But if eucalyptus are these evolutionary freak plants that massively increase fire risk,” he says, it raises a troubling question: Are these intense fires a consequence of climate change or the interaction of climate and biology? “If it’s the latter, then what the hell have humans done? We’ve spread a dangerous plant all over the world.” https://www.kqed.org/science/4209/eucalyptus-california-icon-fire-hazard-and-invasive-species |
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Gay3
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That's been my take on them for a while now i.e. they can't procreate without fires.
Brother rang y/day & said spotting up to 30kms is to be expected due to the temp. at 10,000ft being 500C+ enabling embers to remain hot for much longer than 'normal' |
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acacia alba
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Exactly. Whole towns are gone. Fire storms/embers are sweeping across conutry thats cleared of trees. And because some have a political axe to grind, they refuse to donate and help out firies or those who have lost everything ? Thats pretty dam sad.
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animals before people.
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marble
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Australians are normally very generous with disaster funds AA - we are going to need it desperately to start the rebuild
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acacia alba
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Yes they are Marble. Lets hope most overlook their political agends and donate a few $$ to those who need it. If they dont agree with the human side of it, donate to wildlife rescue. The animals wont mind if you support Scomo, Trump, Johnson, or MrMcGoo.
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animals before people.
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Shrunk in the Wash
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Exactly My brothers in Batemans Bay and in emergency accommodation with his family. He was told today that it will be at least a month till power is back on at his place
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Dr E
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ooooh, if you just keep hoping so, they may well get worse!!! Unprecedented? ... again? ... do some historical research before opening your ignorant yapper.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Dr E
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... are you serious Captain Obvious? Thank you for confirming every argument I have been making! ... do you ever read or understand what you post???
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Second Chance
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Batlow area now apparently under extreme threat.
Know it well, home NSW's main source of apples and ringed by commercial pine forest. Even more seriously serious stuff.
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Dr E
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Why should anyone - other than an idiot - underwrite the stupidity of people who choose to live in high risk areas without adequate insurance ... and then let them "rebuild" so that it happens again? ... sorry this is Darwinian Theory in action ... just leave them alone and give them nothing ... the gene pool will be stronger.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Dr E
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I'm interested to see how the Commercial Pine Forests stand up ... I would expect that being private ventures, the fuel management would be a high priority so that their profits don't go up in smoke when there are fires ... hopefully we don't find out though.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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marble
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Doc you would give spudhead dutton a run for his money - who the meanest RWNJ is in australia
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Dr E
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Life isn't fair, and nature doesn't care about your feelings marble.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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djebel
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Dr E, it reads like you are very much a Morrisonian. He like to espouse the spirit of Australia but practice very little of it himself. Divide and conqueror. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Dr E
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djebel, in case you were not paying attention, I took my family on an inland convoy before Christmas, and we put some money into some of the struggling communities that have been affected by the drought - we didn't do much, but individually we don't need to do much if we all do something, it makes a difference. (I don't know what I was thinking stopping in Brunswick Heads, but there you go, I'm impartial I guess!)
I don't know what bullsit expectations the unhinged left leaning media have for Morrison ... he isn't the Messiah, and even if he was, they would never give him any credit, and certainly wouldn't vote for him! The reality is that he has just stolen the unloseable election from the Socialists, and banished them to political obscurity for at least a decade ... and it was the decision of the people ... and in spite of what the main stream media say, the quiet Australians see through their crap ... this is now the era of personal responsibility djebel.
The hateful divisive victim class and the virtue signaling industry were rejected by the citizens. We will always look after the genuine welfare cases, and that is because we are a wealthy Capitalist country with minerals in the ground that other nations covet and a community based in Christian values ... but stupidity, laziness and selfishness should never be rewarded. People will learn that history can not be ignored, corrupted or re-written, and actions have consequences, and you either adapt or perish.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Redemption
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How many firefighters and water bombers has China senr to Australia in the past 8 weeks??
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Gay3
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I suspect the language barrier would create more problems than the initiative would be worth.
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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jujuno
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I used to collect for the Red Cross Fund yearly appeal. The most money came from pensioners and lower-wage areas. The higher end of town made excuses galore not to donate. The doc's explanation of why he won't donate doesn't surprise me one iota.
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Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes...
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Redemption
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But not when China builds all the apartment buildings, farms, and mines No language barrier then. "Fly left, fly right, fly up, fly down". Pretty sure they could nail it. China isnt here to help us, end of story. They are here to own us.
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Dr E
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No, they mostly spoke English in Brunswick Heads Gay.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Dr E
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You mean people who are net welfare recipients feel guilty? ... righto, seems fair. What was your "take" on the Red Cross scam btw? - about 10 cents in the dollar reaches the beneficiaries, right? ... and that's exactly why I don't stupidly donate money to professional charity beggars. That's why I choose to donate in other ways
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Passing Through
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Pop star says she is "devastated" watching bushfires rage in Australia and has pledged a donation of $500,000 to local fire services
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Tontonan
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Pink has done this before. She gave $250,000 in the wake of the 2009 bushfires.
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acacia alba
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Amazing donation. Some more big stars could do the same,,,,,hope Keith and Nic dig deep.
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animals before people.
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Gay3
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Racing NSW Announces South Coast Bushfire Package Racing NSW today announced a one-off emergency funding relief package for owners, trainers and jockeys affected by the bushfires on the NSW South Coast. The funding relief is a response to the losses endured from the abandonment of race meetings and other damage caused by the bushfires. Financial support will be provided to participants affected by the loss of the race meetings as well as support payments to participants directly impacted by the bushfires. “There has been a substantial interruption to horses' programs as well as personal and business disruption and losses suffered by participants as a consequence of the bushfires,” said Racing NSW’s Chief Executive, Mr Peter V’landys AM. Three race meetings have been abandoned due to the bush fires. 31 December 2019 - Nowra (abandoned 7.15am day of meeting) Funding relief will be as follows for horses that were set to race at these meetings: Nowra and Sapphire Coast (Acceptances Taken) Moruya 6 January 2020 (Abandoned before acceptances) Trainers must credit the per horse payments to the owners' monthly accounts. The abandoned race meeting at Goulburn on 20 December 2019 was also the subject of travel payments for horses scheduled to race and compensatory payments to jockeys engaged to ride at that meeting. In addition to the above, with the impact of the bush fires, there is also general funding available on application for any participants affected by the fires. Racing NSW has been contacting participants directly and is assisting with immediate needs. “In addition to the lack of racing opportunities, there has been significant loss suffered by participants through associated costs,” Mr V’landys added. “Racing NSW is conscious of the extra financial burden this causes and will assist with funding to replace or replenish supplies and equipment." For any inquiries please contact Keith Bulloch at Racing NSW via phone on (02) 9551 7588 or kbulloch@racingnsw.com.au Mudgee Raising Funds For The Bushfires By Mark Brassel Mudgee Race Club will be pitching in and doing its bit for bushfire-ravaged NSW on Tuesday. The club will stage a seven-race meeting that was originally marked down for Orange but transferred due to the drought. “I’ve just returned from the fire station and have a heap of donation buckets for Tuesday,” said MRC’s secretary/manager, Colleen Walker. There'll be some great racing action at Mudgee on Tuesday. Image by Janian McMillan (Racing Photography) “We’ll be raising much-needed funds for the volunteers at the Rural Fire Brigade who have all been doing it so tough in the past few weeks. “The forecast is for 34 degrees so we will have a misting system operating to keep the horses cool.” Meanwhile, Racing NSW announced a one-off emergency funding relief package for owners, trainers and jockeys affected by the deadly bushfires on the NSW South Coast. The funding relief is a response to the losses endured from the abandonment of race meetings and other damage caused by the bushfires. Financial support will be provided to participants affected by the loss of the race meetings as well as support payments to participants directly impacted by the bushfires. “There has been a substantial interruption to horse’s programs as well as personal and business disruption and losses suffered by participants as a consequence of the bushfires,” said Racing NSW’s Chief Executive, Mr Peter V’landys AM. There is also general funding available on application for any participants affected by the fires, with Racing NSW having contacted participants directly to assist with immediate needs. “In addition to the lack of racing opportunities, there has been significant loss suffered by participants through associated costs,” Mr V’landys added. “Racing NSW is conscious of the extra financial burden this causes and will assist with funding to replace or replenish supplies and equipment.” Next Sunday Coffs Harbour Racing Club will host its 14th annual Pink Silks Ladies Raceday. “Coffs Harbour Pink Silks Perpetual Trust is a local registered charity and we are committed to raising awareness and funds for local women who are challenged by cancer or illness,” explained CHRC’s CEO, Tim Saladine. “We’re currently verging on the $1 million milestone for the Pink Silks Trust and hope to achieve this on raceday. “A crowd of in excess of 2000 is expected to form a sea of pink, with fashions and kids’ entertainment with face painters and jumping castles. “And we will again be running the Wayne Glenn Pink Silks Cup, an all-female riders’ race. “There is a massive luncheon and a monster charity raffle after the last race where we’re hoping the girls can crack the million!” Wagga race on Thursday with the feature event, the Suez Australia Summer Sprint (1200m). There will also be a heat of the Wagga Stayer Series over 1800m. Edited by Gay3 - 05 Jan 2020 at 10:22am |
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Whale
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Kyrgios will donate $200 for every ace he serves during the Australian summer of tennis Did you donate AA ?
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Tlazolteotl
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How much will the tax dodging Murdochs donate? Should be huuuuuggge. Just spent $217 million on a house so clearly traveling ok. |
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acacia alba
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Yes Whale, I have donated to 3 or 4 different charities, mostly for the firies and animals but not entirely. And just by the by, I know you expected me to have a dig when you posted you donated $10 , but I have just made the point in another thread, if all of us just donated $10, think how much that would amount to, and I doubt any one of us would miss $10.
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animals before people.
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Whale
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Not that much , say 2 million people give $10, it is only $20 million.
Of course there are many much larger donations to bolster this amount. I wonder what proportion of Australians will donate, I have a feeling these fires may draw the biggest response ever being so widespread on long lasting
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TJMitchell
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How about Celeste Barber? Set up a fundraiser for The Trustee for NSW Rural Fire Service & Brigades 2 days ago. Original goal was $30k. It went viral and has now raised $22.5 million.
No left, right, green bullgelati. Just people doing the right thing.
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