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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Strategy? Liberal Party?

As the vast majority of Victorian voters are clearly aware the two are entirely mutually exclusive.  
State issues and Federal issues are quite different SC. ALP has done a good job for Vics, and they didn't want to consider the other guy, because he was a virtual ghost, and about as popular as Shorten in his own party.

But really, would you risk ALP in charge at State level AND Federal level - a lot of people worry about that.

Did you read rusty's endorsement of my assumptions, and my answers to your property questions SC? 

I hope it's clearer now.Thumbs Up

... and CNNPT STILL hasn't corrected me? ... we must assume that I have got it right!
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LIKE A SAD PIECE OF EXCREMENT -

Is that all you disagree with? ... Ok, I will retract that. 
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Staggering, isn’t it? I thought with a seat like Mayo over here (professional, affluent, economically conservative, socially progressive), the Libs couldn’t possibly lose it- when they did to an independent, I thought well fair enough, those people would never vote Labor.

It seems in Victoria these people have actually voted Labor. As I said, staggering.
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Is that all you disagree with? ... Ok, I will retract that. 



You have improved PT Doc.

I've seen the day when he would have called that , shxt.
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Independents who garnered about 0.3% of the primary vote look like taking as many as 10 seats in the Upper House.  

More seats than the Libs and their putative Country mates I'm almost terribly disappointed to say.  Cry Clap
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People vote through their pockets Judge ... the LNP has the country "singing" economically, and Andrews was clever enough to take advantage. The LNP guy isn't very good at politics either.Thumbs Down

Again, let's see how people react to a Federal Labor, led by Where's Billy, when they realise the personal cost of their economic policies around property and retirees.

Do you think they have time to overhaul or scrap them altogether? ... I think that would be a good way of taking advantage of this momentum ...
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Would the Bennelong motion even been voted on had the Warringah motion not been brought on by Abbott and Molan?

They brought on the fight, were beaten and a compromise accepted. Had they left it alone the party would have just nominated Molan on top of the ticket as an incumbant.
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Independents who garnered about 0.3% of the primary vote look like taking as many as 10 seats in the Upper House.  

More seats than the Libs and their putative Country mates I'm almost terribly disappointed to say.  Cry Clap

The preference whisperers were at it again. They changed the rules in the federal system to eliminate all the micros in the first round State Victoria didn't reform.
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Would the Bennelong motion even been voted on had the Warringah motion not been brought on by Abbott and Molan?

They brought on the fight, were beaten and a compromise accepted. Had they left it alone the party would have just nominated Molan on top of the ticket as an incumbant.

There, did it hurt to tell the truth?

You really are so pretentious and arrogant as to think it is clever when you deliberately mislead people, don't you?Embarrassed

I will retract that retraction, until such time as you retract all of your lies.
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Few, Liberal Party votes included, will mourn Molan's premature but entirely welcome passing.
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You can spin it any way you like. As you are spinning the result yesterday.

I see Mad Maddie from the Terrorgraph wrote a piece today claiming Victorian Libs lost because Guy didn't go hard enough on safe schools. One of your best people. LOL
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

People vote through their pockets Judge ... the LNP has the country "singing" economically, and Andrews was clever enough to take advantage. The LNP guy isn't very good at politics either.Thumbs Down

Again, let's see how people react to a Federal Labor, led by Where's Billy, when they realise the personal cost of their economic policies around property and retirees.

Do you think they have time to overhaul or scrap them altogether? ... I think that would be a good way of taking advantage of this momentum ...


Some might, but people vote for a variety of reasons. In a lot of blue ribbon Adelaide and Melbourne seats, and I’d imagine in seats like Wentworth, their “pockets” are going to be OK regardless of who is in power. Other things are swaying them.

The lunar right can pretend they don’t need these people, but they’re kidding themselves.
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Oh dear, nothing to do with Federal issues Doc? Embarrassed 

How is she going to keep him out of NSW when he lives there? LOL

Gladys Berejiklian says Scott Morrison not needed in NSW election campaign

After Victorian Liberals’ drubbing, the NSW premier says her government will stand ‘on its own two feet’

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/nov/25/gladys-berejiklian-says-scott-morrison-not-needed-in-nsw-election-campaign
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Would the Bennelong motion even been voted on had the Warringah motion not been brought on by Abbott and Molan?

They brought on the fight, were beaten and a compromise accepted. Had they left it alone the party would have just nominated Molan on top of the ticket as an incumbant.

There, did it hurt to tell the truth?

You really are so pretentious and arrogant as to think it is clever when you deliberately mislead people, don't you?Embarrassed

I will retract that retraction, until such time as you retract all of your lies.

you really said that, no mirrors in your place Confused

It must be so upsetting that he keeps his calm, does not resort to stupid insults and destroys you in every instance.


In the meantime you scream, abuse ,insult, is that how you talk to clients in your imaginary business LOL
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

People vote through their pockets Judge ... the LNP has the country "singing" economically, and Andrews was clever enough to take advantage. The LNP guy isn't very good at politics either.Thumbs Down

Again, let's see how people react to a Federal Labor, led by Where's Billy, when they realise the personal cost of their economic policies around property and retirees.

Do you think they have time to overhaul or scrap them altogether? ... I think that would be a good way of taking advantage of this momentum ...


Some might, but people vote for a variety of reasons. In a lot of blue ribbon Adelaide and Melbourne seats, and I’d imagine in seats like Wentworth, their “pockets” are going to be OK regardless of who is in power. Other things are swaying them.

The lunar right can pretend they don’t need these people, but they’re kidding themselves.

I am of the firm opinion that there is a migration in progress - both ways - seems to be a lot more "politicians" moving their allegiances from the left to the right, stating the party left them, they didn't leave the party. The traditional ALP ideology of working for the individuals has turned in a different direction. Right or wrong, there are definite perceptions.

The former Conservative strongholds, have become too wealthy as you point out, and have reverted their attention to the progressive Idealisms of gender fluidity, climate change, and other virtue signaling issues. Electorates like Wentworth, I would argue, will not be liberal Party strongholds again, until something major happens (recession under an ALP government for example). This was borne out in Wentworth - the reality is that Malcolm held it for 14 years and was never conservative, always lurching to the left - yes you are right, those leafy high-income high public servant ratio suburbs have and are changing.

It may turn out to be the ALP Federal Government we had to have ... and if they do put their policies into place, it will be messy and short-lived!
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Oh dear, nothing to do with Federal issues Doc? Embarrassed 

How is she going to keep him out of NSW when he lives there? LOL

Gladys Berejiklian says Scott Morrison not needed in NSW election campaign

After Victorian Liberals’ drubbing, the NSW premier says her government will stand ‘on its own two feet’

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/nov/25/gladys-berejiklian-says-scott-morrison-not-needed-in-nsw-election-campaign


Ummm, are you a fan of Gladys' political instincts? ... tell the truth now ...
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Do you have a link to that study?

He’s got a scrapbook, and he’s cut up letters from the newspapers like an 8yo to tell his own story.
I’m sure he’s very proud of it,and will ask his carer if you can come around and see it....
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Would the Bennelong motion even been voted on had the Warringah motion not been brought on by Abbott and Molan?

They brought on the fight, were beaten and a compromise accepted. Had they left it alone the party would have just nominated Molan on top of the ticket as an incumbant.

There, did it hurt to tell the truth?

You really are so pretentious and arrogant as to think it is clever when you deliberately mislead people, don't you?Embarrassed

I will retract that retraction, until such time as you retract all of your lies.

you really said that, no mirrors in your place Confused

It must be so upsetting that he keeps his calm, does not resort to stupid insults and destroys you in every instance.


In the meantime you scream, abuse ,insult, is that how you talk to clients in your imaginary business LOL

I'm happy for you to be pretentious and arrogant Whale, so long as you tell the truth and make a valid point ... I have no problem with anyone who does that.

My issue is only with people who know the facts, but lie ... and EVERYONE should be concerned by that.Embarrassed
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... have I seriously ever insulted anyone? ... if it is true of their character, is it really an insult Whale?
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

People vote through their pockets Judge ... the LNP has the country "singing" economically, and Andrews was clever enough to take advantage. The LNP guy isn't very good at politics either.Thumbs Down

Again, let's see how people react to a Federal Labor, led by Where's Billy, when they realise the personal cost of their economic policies around property and retirees.

Do you think they have time to overhaul or scrap them altogether? ... I think that would be a good way of taking advantage of this momentum ...


Some might, but people vote for a variety of reasons. In a lot of blue ribbon Adelaide and Melbourne seats, and I’d imagine in seats like Wentworth, their “pockets” are going to be OK regardless of who is in power. Other things are swaying them.

The lunar right can pretend they don’t need these people, but they’re kidding themselves.

I am of the firm opinion that there is a migration in progress - both ways - seems to be a lot more "politicians" moving their allegiances from the left to the right, stating the party left them, they didn't leave the party. The traditional ALP ideology of working for the individuals has turned in a different direction. Right or wrong, there are definite perceptions.

The former Conservative strongholds, have become too wealthy as you point out, and have reverted their attention to the progressive Idealisms of gender fluidity, climate change, and other virtue signaling issues. Electorates like Wentworth, I would argue, will not be liberal Party strongholds again, until something major happens (recession under an ALP government for example). This was borne out in Wentworth - the reality is that Malcolm held it for 14 years and was never conservative, always lurching to the left - yes you are right, those leafy high-income high public servant ratio suburbs have and are changing.

It may turn out to be the ALP Federal Government we had to have ... and if they do put their policies into place, it will be messy and short-lived!


So you’ll just sacrifice those seats. Brilliant....
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

People vote through their pockets Judge ... the LNP has the country "singing" economically, and Andrews was clever enough to take advantage. The LNP guy isn't very good at politics either.Thumbs Down

Again, let's see how people react to a Federal Labor, led by Where's Billy, when they realise the personal cost of their economic policies around property and retirees.

Do you think they have time to overhaul or scrap them altogether? ... I think that would be a good way of taking advantage of this momentum ...

It’s hilarious that you are so clueless about your cluelessness.

Their research screamed that Scomo is on the nose, it’s almost like he’s been eating onions like they were apples.

I really hope they follow your advice and Stay the course.
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... have I seriously ever insulted anyone? ... if it is true of their character, is it really an insult Whale?

Hey Dummy!
So glad that’s how you feel.
I was starting to feel guilty about some comments I’ve been making about your lack of smarts,and your appalling personality.
Since you continually prove I’m right,we’re all good.
Carry on ranting !

#on line fantasist, who pretends he’s a successful businessman ......
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

People vote through their pockets Judge ... the LNP has the country "singing" economically, and Andrews was clever enough to take advantage. The LNP guy isn't very good at politics either.Thumbs Down

Again, let's see how people react to a Federal Labor, led by Where's Billy, when they realise the personal cost of their economic policies around property and retirees.

Do you think they have time to overhaul or scrap them altogether? ... I think that would be a good way of taking advantage of this momentum ...


Some might, but people vote for a variety of reasons. In a lot of blue ribbon Adelaide and Melbourne seats, and I’d imagine in seats like Wentworth, their “pockets” are going to be OK regardless of who is in power. Other things are swaying them.

The lunar right can pretend they don’t need these people, but they’re kidding themselves.

I am of the firm opinion that there is a migration in progress - both ways - seems to be a lot more "politicians" moving their allegiances from the left to the right, stating the party left them, they didn't leave the party. The traditional ALP ideology of working for the individuals has turned in a different direction. Right or wrong, there are definite perceptions.

The former Conservative strongholds, have become too wealthy as you point out, and have reverted their attention to the progressive Idealisms of gender fluidity, climate change, and other virtue signaling issues. Electorates like Wentworth, I would argue, will not be liberal Party strongholds again, until something major happens (recession under an ALP government for example). This was borne out in Wentworth - the reality is that Malcolm held it for 14 years and was never conservative, always lurching to the left - yes you are right, those leafy high-income high public servant ratio suburbs have and are changing.

It may turn out to be the ALP Federal Government we had to have ... and if they do put their policies into place, it will be messy and short-lived!


So you’ll just sacrifice those seats. Brilliant....

If the people decide they want to go down the slippery slope of  Socialism/Globalism/Communism, that is their decision - you can only remind them and warn them so many times ... when they are raiding Taronga Park Zoo for protein, and their Harbourside Mansions are worth $100 trillion South Pacific Rupees, and a loaf of bread $1 Trillion if you can find one, then they may question their allegiances ...
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

... have I seriously ever insulted anyone? ... if it is true of their character, is it really an insult Whale?

Hey Dummy!
So glad that’s how you feel.
I was starting to feel guilty about some comments I’ve been making about your lack of smarts,and your appalling personality.
Since you continually prove I’m right,we’re all good.
Carry on ranting !

#on line fantasist, who pretends he’s a successful businessman ......

see that is the difference, I am neither dumb nor unsuccessful - you, on the other hand, are a deranged jealous moron, without a shadow of a doubt.
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Oh Dummy,
It’s both cute and sad that you think anyone might be jealous of you...
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

People vote through their pockets Judge ... the LNP has the country "singing" economically, and Andrews was clever enough to take advantage. The LNP guy isn't very good at politics either.Thumbs Down

Again, let's see how people react to a Federal Labor, led by Where's Billy, when they realise the personal cost of their economic policies around property and retirees.

Do you think they have time to overhaul or scrap them altogether? ... I think that would be a good way of taking advantage of this momentum ...


Some might, but people vote for a variety of reasons. In a lot of blue ribbon Adelaide and Melbourne seats, and I’d imagine in seats like Wentworth, their “pockets” are going to be OK regardless of who is in power. Other things are swaying them.

The lunar right can pretend they don’t need these people, but they’re kidding themselves.

I am of the firm opinion that there is a migration in progress - both ways - seems to be a lot more "politicians" moving their allegiances from the left to the right, stating the party left them, they didn't leave the party. The traditional ALP ideology of working for the individuals has turned in a different direction. Right or wrong, there are definite perceptions.

The former Conservative strongholds, have become too wealthy as you point out, and have reverted their attention to the progressive Idealisms of gender fluidity, climate change, and other virtue signaling issues. Electorates like Wentworth, I would argue, will not be liberal Party strongholds again, until something major happens (recession under an ALP government for example). This was borne out in Wentworth - the reality is that Malcolm held it for 14 years and was never conservative, always lurching to the left - yes you are right, those leafy high-income high public servant ratio suburbs have and are changing.

It may turn out to be the ALP Federal Government we had to have ... and if they do put their policies into place, it will be messy and short-lived!


So you’ll just sacrifice those seats. Brilliant....

If the people decide they want to go down the slippery slope of  Socialism/Globalism/Communism, that is their decision - you can only remind them and warn them so many times ... when they are raiding Taronga Park Zoo for protein, and their Harbourside Mansions are worth $100 trillion South Pacific Rupees, and a loaf of bread $1 Trillion if you can find one, then they may question their allegiances ...


You left out Marxism..and how globalism equates to socialism is anyone’s guess. Bizarre...
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You totally beat me to the globalization/socialism alleged nexus Judge.   Confused
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They’re almost mutually exclusive...I swear he gets dumber by the post
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