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And while I think of it. Unfortunately the above letter showed the greed on one party perfectly. I know there is nothing wrong with wealth. Without it the racing industry would fail big time. I am not a fan of greed though and the above with comic relief shows just how one party treats more than 1/2 of us. Well unless they show more respect and diligence I won't find it easy to vote for them again. And I hope I never have to go to court with one of the above. I would have trouble relating to them at all.
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furious, the problem is the weakness of the Liberals under Turnbull - they are now so far left of center, they are the ALP - they are now taking their policies and making them their own. They brought us Gay Marriage, they wont cut spending, and they believe that we should be the Social Justice Warriors who save the planet from Global Warming (when we can do NOTHING, and everyone else walking away from it for self interest). The ALP are now moving their policies even further left and they are now indistinguishable from the Greens ... so they are now simply disruptors. They have turned their back on their own policies JUST to have a point of difference - Paul Keating was a proponent of lower business taxes, and so was Bill Shorten and all of his party, only a few years ago. Speaking of helping people, the ALP will never allow us to build dams and pipe water where we need it - because they are now the Greens, and there's bound to be a BS "environmental" reason - have a look at the "environment" where everything is in drought! The ALP wants to be the enemy of big business, yet the Unions depend on big business to create jobs for their members ... how does that make sense? The ALP's Socialist policies now are to simply tax everyone higher. Their only way of growing employment is by creating more regulation, more government departments and higher rates of immigration, so that means more control of what we do, and extra costs - more money wasted on more and more parasitic public servants, bureaucrats and welfare recipients living in cultural ghettos ... but if you keep taxing the top end, and taking from business, those businesses along with our best and brightest people, will simply go offshore where the tax regimes make it a no brainer ... and then when we find ourselves with no industry, who do we tax then? We need stronger conservative policies, after all, like it or not, capitalism is what gave us the lifestyle we enjoy today. Alternatively, we turn to socialism, that has always failed, and we WILL be bankrupt, and it will happen a long time before Global Warming ever has any effect.
As Margaret Thatcher said “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Passing Through
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Good luck with that. The only way you will get re-elected with your poxy neo-con agenda is to lie. That was made abundantly clear yesterday.
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That was made abundantly clear yesterday
RUBBISH. Nothing was made clear yesterday other than incumbents win by-elections. Gee you talk crap 99% of the time ..... and the other one percent is not worthy of printing.
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Dr E
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... you mean because the ALP won yesterday by lying? ... you may have a point there!  Thanks at least for not embarrassing yourself and arguing against any of the points I made.  |
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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It was wish full thinking PDutton.... I'm in his electorate & sadly I predict he won't win his seat if Turnbull / Bishop leads them into the next election. Only fell in last twice = 2 % Qld have been destroyed by Labor State Governments for decades and they still put them in . |
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Hmmmm...I guess the plans to cut Medicare Education and sell off the ABC will also be hidden from view again. Problem is people have stopped listening to the denials.  |
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Why would I need to address your points when you have simply had a Damascus moment and now agree with what I have been saying for 2 years under Turnbull regarding the shifts in all the major parties positions and where they need to be to get elected. All that has happened now is that the move to the centre right/centre under Turrbull has been exposed as a sham, and Labor are reclaiming their rightful position on the centre left/centre on the spectrum where the majority of Australians are. The move back to 38-40% yesterday(actually closer to 41 but making allowances for by election effect), if translated to a federal election sweeps Labor into power. Labor have in the last 10 elections since the further fragmentation of the electorate have been gaining around 34-35% where they used to get elected on 38% primary. 40%+ yesterday has Liberals terrified.
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Guys Labour may of won but that means nothing either. Both parties are in trouble because all they do is bicker and point their fingers. And at the moment I think the Libs are worst because they are in power but doing nothing to help anyone itseems. Pointing a finger and saying lier is easy. Trying to do something and work the floor and get things through to help the electorate and lets face it people really need help. Now that's hard and will be until both sides see that in bad times we have to pull together or the country will go down the plughole.
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And the greens mostly live in the city so they have to pull there heads in and stop with their mandates. We have to pull out two trees both ten footers. Now over the years in a small yard I'm being to look at a forest thanks to planting made husband. They want the two pulled out replaced to two more ten footers when a six foot would be safer and more manageable. Less likely to drop a branch which almost took out the neighbours roof for instance! It was luck that saved us a big big bill. It's to dry to try and get a tree established at the moment anyway so our water bill will be up for a while.
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Dr E
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more FAKE NEWS?
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Does company tax cuts lead to less tax receipts down the line and less govt. spending ?
just a question for the more knowledgeable persons than me. |
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Dr E
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 The political commentators always refer to Labor as having a "stronger ground game", meaning that they have more volunteers spreading the word, better social media coverage (facebook and twitter are both socialist organisations and have been exposed for manipulating their content accordingly), the assistance of the FAKE NEWS media (Their ABC is the largest reporter of news, is unaccountable and biased) and better representation at poling booths (they pay people who don't work to campaign for them). In my opinion it is actually the LNP's lack of "ground game", and their inability to get their message across to the electorate effectively. There are many reasons for this - the most obvious one is, as I pointed out, that most passionate ALP "volunteers" are public servants or unionists or welfare recipients, who actually get paid to attend those events - whilst LNP supporters are actually working - either in their own business or in a real job for one of those despised "big businesses" - to pay the taxes that keep those parasites fed and clothed. That's why the Victorian ALP Government are being investigated by police for misuse of public money - which they already admitted to! If people were to sit down and assessed the policy points dispassionately, take all of the noise away, all of the biased media reporting, there is no way that the ALP would ever be elected in Australia - everything they do is damaging to our economy. ... but it's up to the LNP to somehow get those messages across, and Turnbull struggles, because he is not really a conservative at all. His approach is, he only needs to be slightly better than Shorten and the ALP. That wont work forever, at some point, he needs to make a stand on traditional conservative principles, that will actually benefit the country, like; * getting out of the Paris Agreement * using or abundant resources like coal for power generation, build dams and pipe water. * cut spending * reduce the size of public service and bureacracy * cut red tape * cut corporate tax rates * control our immigration policies to benefit Australians, not immigrants. * punish criminals. ... oh wait, those are all of the things that Trump promised to do that were going to lead to catastrophe for the US citizens, but in fact resulted in; * businesses returning to the US * existing businesses investing money in the US * Bonuses and pay increases for workers * record economic growth, wealth and prosperity * record low unemployment levels. ... but all the media wants to report is RUSSIA!!! and Stormy. Ignore all of the deranged socialist, accept the facts, and we would all come to the conclusion that we need a Trump too.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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CNNPT? ... is the answer more tax receipts? yes or no? ... if you are unsure you can phone either Paul Keating or Donald Trump for an answer!  Every time that Australia has reduced Corporate Tax Rates, (including when Paul Keating did so!) the result has been increased taxation revenue, which one would assume is "good" for the citizens ... "trickle down economics doesn't work" ... Oooops, not another inconvenient truth! PS: ... "but, but, RUSSSIA!!! RUSSSIA!!! RUSSSIA!!! and MEDISCARE!!!" is not an acceptable answer CNNPT ...
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I'm your man Croca ..= Since I became a pupil of PT's Political brain I would suggest we need to cut Tax to be competitive world wide. The only Industry we have left that is thriving is of no use to me, as even Viagra only gives me a stiff neck.. |
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The US tax cuts have added $1.3 Trillion debt to the most recent year. Congress wants to cut services to compensate, Trump wants more tax cuts. How the Trump Tax Cut Is Helping to Push the Federal Deficit to $1 TrillionThe amount of corporate taxes collected by the federal government has plunged to historically low levels in the first six months of the year, pushing up the federal budget deficit much faster than economists had predicted. The reason is President Trump’s tax cuts. The law introduced a standard corporate rate of 21 percent, down from a high of 35 percent, and allowed companies to immediately deduct many new investments. As companies operate with lower taxes and a greater ability to reduce what they owe, the federal government is receiving far less than it would have before the overhaul. Corporate tax receipts are near a 75-year low as a share of the economy. % 6 4 2 0 1.3% 1960 1980 2000 2018  |
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More fake news, this time from Sky. Tones is being very helpful to Turnbull though, urging him to hold fast and go down with the ship if necessary.
Company tax policy not a vote winner: Abbott30/07/2018|4minFormer prime minister Tony Abbott is weighing in on the federal government's company tax policy in the aftermath of the Super Saturday by-elections, conceding the plan lacks appeal to voters. Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull is facing pressure from within Liberal ranks to drop the initiative. Some cabinet ministers fear the move is toxic and could have lasting implications heading into the next federal election. |
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Nice deflecting CNNPT ... but what is the answer to Caric'a question? ... come on, give Paul Keating or Bob Hawke, or any other ALP "Royalty", they will tell you ...
THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!!!
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Liberals today on their signature tax cuts for the rich policy.
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Sorry Carioca, I'm sure CNNPT will come up with an answer other than "Rrreeeeeeee", or "Fcuk Trump", or "Racist", etc., sometime soon!  ... it's like waiting for a dog to pick up it's own poo, isn't it!
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Dunno whether to laugh or cry, all the suttilty of a sledgehammer cracking a walnut ,
Thanks Doc.
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Carioca, listening to Socialists talking about economics is like taking contraceptive advice from a rabbit.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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animals before people.
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Are you also promoting to broaden the tax base? |
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doc,do you realise when Keating cut company tax rates, he brought in
FBT, capital gains etc etc etc. That's what brought in the bucks.
Are you also promoting to broaden the tax base?
 Poor old Doc. Don't blame him. He's only regurgitating what they feed him at Sky Fox and it's not a balanced diet. |
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The argument is that a higher company tax rate makes a country less attractive for direct foreign investment. For the sake of argument, let's say that's true. Where does it end? If Singapore, seeking to regain a significant competitive advantage again- the rest of the world having closed on them- goes to 10%, then 5%- why not zero? It will be great for companies. Workers, pensioners, schoolkids- not so much.
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well that is hypothetical. is rubbish now for the worker, pensioner, schoolkid. Try harder T Australia might just be able to claw some jobs back from....China? just saying...
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It's not hypothetical- it is inevitable. Do you think Singapore will stay at 17% after the UK goes to 15%? It's a competition, and if you think that attracting foreign investment is your major priority, as the right do, going lower than your rivals is how you play. |
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something like the trade wars that are supposed to be happening? Who blinks first, type scenario?
So, lets see who blinks first. competition can have beneficial results, i believe. what makes you think the world would be worried about "little" australia lowering its tax rate? take away other countries jobs perhaps?
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