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They can fund Adani!
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Yes, LNP is repositioning itself to be Labor-Lite
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Can't wait to see their tough and uncompromising Negative gearing and CGT changes to be announced soon ... no half measures, all concessions ripped away from investors, on their 100th investment property and beyond!

They have caved on border security too ... a new policy will see any Muslim who is found guilty of a successful suicide bombing, deported immediately.
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"Bugger the Catholics"

Reducing funding to CATHOLIC SCHOOLS, a punishment for BERNARDI leaving the scene?

After all,droves of CATHOLICS are going to give their vote to his PARTY. 


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It would be interesting to know the voting pattern of catholics. The liberal party are more associated with catholics, i doubt it reflects in total votes though. could be wrong.
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The Labor Party is the traditional Catholic Party


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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

The Labor Party is the traditional Catholic Party




i didnt know that. but its a fine tradition and association nonetheless. ๐Ÿ‘

i hope it builds further, rather than be stripped away by the socialist left termite infestation.
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Read about the split in the 50's that formed the DLP

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Read about the split in the 50's that formed the DLP



Interesting read ๐Ÿ‘
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Interesting, Fairfax journos taking illegal industrial action and most other journalists tweeting in solidarity with their bretheren.

Is the type of illegal action Sally McManus got into trouble for saying she could support?
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We don't need unions because employers don't exploit workers these days.Wink
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I didn't even realise that it is illegal to strike in Australia. That sounds downright unAustralia to me. Let's see.




Part of the context of Ms McManus' comment was her view the right to strike in Australia was far too restrictive.

"It shouldn't be so hard for workers in our country to be able to take industrial action when they need to," she told Leigh Sales on ABC's 7.30.

Given this, it's surprising there's been so little analysis on where Australia's laws on industrial action sit compared to international norms.

And on that score, Ms McManus has a point.

Under international law, the right to strike is recognised as a fundamental human right.

The United Nations (UN) declared "strike action to be a right" and "one of the principal means by which workers and their associations may legitimately promote and defend their economic and social interests" from its early days soon after World War II.

The restrictions Australia has placed on that right place us at odds with international conventions โ€” a point made repeatedly by the UN agency that oversees labour standards, the International Labour Organisation (ILO).

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VIDEO: Sally McManus says it is OK for workers to break "unjust laws" (7.30)

"It's absolutely straightforward," said Professor Andrew Stewart of Adelaide University โ€” one of the nation's foremost experts on labour law.

"The ILO for the past 20 to 30 years has told governments of both political persuasions that we are in breach of international labour standards."

Australia is regularly warned by the ILO our laws are out of step.

Just as regularly, that advice is quietly ignored โ€” by LaborShocked and Coalition governments.

And that's just part of the story: Australia's laws against industrial action are not only in breach of international law, they are without peer among advanced economies with a tradition of civil liberty in oppressing the right to strike.

"Not only are we flagrantly in breach but our laws are also so restrictive on the right to strike that they are way out of step with the laws of just about every other developed country," Professor Stewart said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-21/have-the-right-to-strike-laws-gone-too-far/8370980

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Why do the unions let Labor get away with that? And why isn't this a big deal. I'm fired up. I will go to the barricades on this issue.Angry
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How does Australia stack up against the rest of the world?

Few realise it, but the United Kingdom and even the US afford more liberty to workers to take industrial action.

How do Australia's laws breach international standards? Fundamentally.

"The right to strike is one of the essential means available to workers and their organisations for the promotion and protection of their economic and social interests," the ILO's committee of experts wrote in a key statement in 1983.

"These interests not only have to do with obtaining better working conditions and pursuing collective demands of an occupational nature but also with seeking solutions to economic and social policy questions and to labour problems of any kind which are of direct concern to the workers."

That's a world away from Australia's laws.

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funny how unions, solidarity and industrial action is ok when self interest is at stake.

Ive got mixed emotions about smh and the sackings for this reason. i feel for the genuine journo's who value fairness and unions. To those journo's who shat on unions or didnt give a damn about sacked workers elsewhere (from the newspaper advertisers maybe???) .. they can get stuffed. what goes around comes around.
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liberal federal education minister simon birmingham has cut funding to catholic schools.

catholic ed commission saying they have been hit hardest & unfairly targeted. birmingham calls them bullies.

who do lefties side with here??? what a pickle.

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Gonski II is a joke ... pure political gamesmanship by Malcolm, and good on him, he's played them off a break (Trumpish in fact!)Clap.

He hasn't got a clue what it looks like, but it's "Gonski" and its $22 billion cheaper than the impostors were proposing ... and it's "Gonski".

Fact is, it will not tackle the issues ... our educators or in effect, under performing pseudo social reformists, from teachers to University lecturers, they have been infiltrated by this kind of left wing scum, but worse than that ... THEY SIMPLY CAN'T TEACH!!!Embarrassed

PS: There are no cuts to Catholic Education, even though there should be! For Fooks Sake, they are spending all of their money covering up and inadequately compensating for the sexual conquests of THEIR "educators" over the past 50 + years (and it will evenytual send ONE of their entities broke), and they want the taxpayers to cover it!!!Angry
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Played who off a break? Labor or the right of the Liberal Party?

Malcolm will try to creep towards the centre on a lot of things, as Theresa May is doing in Britain, because the sensible centre is where you win back the majority of the population, but he has two fronts to battle to do it.

Great news for Australia that he has seen the light and is attempting to make the shift. Great for Labor too, as it draws them to the centre, where they can drop off a lot of loony green positions and contest the centre from an egalitarian position that is natural to them, rather than pandering to the reactionary left to make up the thinning numbers. Greens will never vote with Libs so it makes sense to compete closer to the centre encroaching on centre right than pushing ever left
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It's going to be hard to wean the wealthy off their sense of entitlement judging from the parents I saw interviewed outside Loreto Kiribilli and the Higgins squealers ranting about the 3% effective tax rate on $200,000 of superannuation earnings per year.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Played who off a break? Labor or the right of the Liberal Party?

Malcolm will try to creep towards the centre on a lot of things, as Theresa May is doing in Britain, because the sensible centre is where you win back the majority of the population, but he has two fronts to battle to do it.
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Great news for Australia that he has seen the light and is attempting to make the shift. Great for Labor too, as it draws them to the centre, where they can drop off a lot of loony green positions and contest the centre from an egalitarian position that is natural to them, rather than pandering to the reactionary left to make up the thinning numbers. Greens will never vote with Libs so it makes sense to compete closer to the centre encroaching on centre right than pushing ever left


curious...

does the "sensible centre" apply to social debate too? is that where you win back the majority of the population?
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Health, education, childcare, domestic violence, alcohol abuse, same sex marriage, homelessness, home affordability etc...yes
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im on board. ๐Ÿ‘swanny is too.

But its no just the greens pulling the party left on social, progressive issues. plenty of alp supporters are clamoring to go as batty far left as they can.
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This is what tends to happen when people are feeling the effects of inequality. Everyone has a different perspective and a different focus on what is wrong for them and who or what is to blame. 

Adress the true cause and bring most people under the umbrella and fewer are or feel affected. Of course you can't solve everyone's problems but a govt should be striving to help the majority on each issue.

centre, centre left, centre right radical centre, third way....it's all good for me because they are all positions that can benefit most through compromise. You will never satisfy outliers as some are trying, so you shouldn't, 
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Depends who's number you want to believe. They are both twisting the truth
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Yep, played them off a break - stole the NBN, kidnapped Gonski - what "policy" does the ALP have left? ... Mediscare?Embarrassed

Can't see it getting any "easier" for the ALP, all they have left is Bullgelati Bill, and we haven't even mentioned "Stopping the Boats" yet ...
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Great to see shorten and plibersek come out fighting for catholic school education funding. even chris bowen said the catholic system will be in meltdown after birminghams cuts.

Bill and co just reminding us the alp is the traditional party of catholics

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Political lines are really being blurred. 
In WA, the newly elected Labor party are slashing the public service.
Ask a public servant for a comment and there isnt one. Nothing from the unions either.
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What about Anglican, Jewish or Islamic schools, weren't they getting the sweetheart deals Catholic schools got too?
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Catholic schools lose sweetheart Gillard deal that corrupted Gonski and gave them more than the needs-based formula applied to all schools says they should get- boo hoo.Cry


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