Lloyd Williams

Bonjour wrote: Shawy38 wrote: Still can’t see the exact rule he is breaking God almighty, he's admitted he's the head trainer!......therefore under the rules of racing he requires a licence....oh, hang on...it's Lloyd, nah, she'll be right......

I'm sure the silks could dissolve that "gotcha" without much trouble.

Fort he record once more, I don't care, just don't tell everyone there is nothing he's doing wrong, or that people who think he is doing the wrong thing are just jealous.

It should though in the context that the named trainer is executing on someone else's blueprint and decision. That's why Execs are personally liable in a business setting, not their staff.

max manewer wrote: anabel wrote: max manewer wrote: If my trainer clicks his heels when I arrive to inspect my steed, all the better ! Let's face it, trainers with 100+ in work are not training them, they are delegating others to do so, and those others don't need a trainers licence. But they are responsible and accountable to any issues that may arise. You mean the "named" trainer ? Of course, that does not change.

Yes that's what I mean, no matter how many foremen are running the show, the buck still stops with the head trainer - which is the difference from the Lloyd situation.

crooked_gambler wrote: This is hilarious, Keep up the keyboard attack, Lloyd doesn’t care what you think either

i wish i could see the world through lloyds rose colored glasses.

they are in fact rose colored...🌹

Cabo, you could publicly announce yourself a mass murderer, but I guarantee the police would not be around to make further enquiries. Even the van with the men in white coats, wouldn't show up.

max manewer wrote: Cabo, you could publicly announce yourself a mass murderer, but I guarantee the police would not be around to make further enquiries. Even the van with the men in white coats, wouldn't show up.

yes they could...public nuisance.

in lloyds case - it should be misleading stewards or deception.

imagine from now onwards... if lloyds horse fails a drug test and the "trainer" gets a ban. but that trainer isnt lloyd

completely farcical.

cabosanlucas wrote: imagine from now onwards... if lloyds horse fails a drug test and the "trainer" gets a ban. but that trainer isnt lloyd completely farcical.

Do you believe Lloyd is doping his horses?

cabosanlucas wrote: imagine from now onwards... if lloyds horse fails a drug test and the "trainer" gets a ban. but that trainer isnt lloyd completely farcical.

The nominated trainer takes the risk no matter who is around his horses, does he not ?

JudgeHolden wrote: Fear not forum it’s, RVs intrepid integrity team has been dispatched to Macedon Lodge forthwith to get to the bottom of this....wonder what they think they’ll find https://www.racing.com/news/2017-11-20/rv-to-revisit-williams-set-up

Lots of horse gelati

max manewer wrote: cabosanlucas wrote: imagine from now onwards... if lloyds horse fails a drug test and the "trainer" gets a ban. but that trainer isnt lloyd completely farcical. The nominated trainer takes the risk no matter who is around his horses, does he not ?

we cant pretend lloyd didnt tell the world he is the trainer. anyone else is a foreman or stablehand.

He is arrogant and over bearing,  and that son needs a good hair cut .  I am sure he could afford one so why doesnt he just go get one ??
Yeah, I know he is rich, so he can please himself.   But gee he gets a bit old after awhile.

If they, RV, that is, has integrity,....oh and transparency, and good governance, then they should suspend the Macedon Lodge operation immediately. An inquiry into Lloyd's comment should follow and then a decision as to the future of that operation. When an owner steps up and says, '' I tell them what feed to feed and to who, and what work to give the horses'' then he is the trainer, and that's a whole pandora's box.......but it has to be done...and quickly as Lloyd and the stewards have brought racing into disrepute.