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How I lost faith in religion |
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Munga Rangi
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Agree with you Max. |
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Caveat emptor
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max manewer
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Hollywood
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Do you both talk to God directly ?
Do you hear His voice in your head ??
Does He tell you what to do ???
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Hollywood
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Do you expect to go to Heaven ....... a place supposedly where there is no sufferring ??
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Hollywood
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a fine song from a few years ago .....
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Munga Rangi
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No, I haven't had a chat recently, but I wish he'd tell me who is going to win The Slipper tomorrow
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Caveat emptor
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max manewer
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A lot of people struggle, imo, to separate conceptions of God from the phenomenon of organized religion. The best that probably can be said is that organized religion is an attempt to render in rational terms, that which is clearly not rational, that is, something that can be explained by a relationship between various elements, it is very clear to me that the Riddle of Existence, aka God, is never going to be "explained" by such contrivances. There is a compulsive urge in humans to understand the how and why of it all, but that line of enquiry has yielded absolutely nothing, in regard to the ultimate question. How could it ? As long as we have a need to have things explained in terms meaningful to us, the conundrum continues to trouble, far better to abolish any ambitions to "understand" God, or what God may be. The dawn will come when you truly admit you know nothing of it, and do not believe you can ever "know", in the way you know how and why, e.g., a loaf of bread rises.
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oneonesit
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The universe is 13.77 billion years old..........the earth a mere 4.54 billion..........homo sapiens (us) have been around for approx 200,000 yrs...........& jesus arrived 2,000yrs ago..........mmmmm......just let me think about that for a while !
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djebel
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What is Gods motivation for cancers in Children ?
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reductio ad absurdum
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jujuno
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I feel for you Max...or is it George Pell...
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max manewer
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Whale
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I don't , I actively dislike organised religion and its smugness, preaching, hypocrisy,bullying and certainty. Doesn't stop me from being an agnostic, that is acknowledging the possible existence of "god" or some sort of all encompassing spirit. For all the logical scientific arguments debunking god it always comes back to the question how did it all start, where did that first amoeba come from. |
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Whale
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The people who are talking about Jesus, and animals going to heaven are completely on the wrong track.
These things are religion's interpretation and as such are a load of garbage as the mystery of god is unfathomable. Doesn't mean there isn't or couldn't be a god of some sort. |
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oneonesit
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Dinosaurs lived on the planet 925 times longer than humans have (up until now)
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Browndog
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Where did God come from?
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Whale
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An obvious next question, but that is where I give up, my head hurts
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max manewer
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Why is the human race so arrogant to think they matter more than any other living or non-living thing in the magnificent universe ? If we were invaded by aliens would we still believe we were Gods chosen ones ?
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max manewer
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There is a great deal of illusion in our perceptions, the young can be excused for failing to recognize that, those of us with more more experience, less so. What seemed earth-shattering as a child can be looked back upon with mirth in adulthood, maybe that is indicative of how we would see our adult behaviours if we could "grow" into a greater maturity than most achieve.
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Browndog
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A disciplined Socratic thought process does not preclude curiosity and clear mindedness does not prevent you from being teachable. In fact it makes you more open than the closed minded zealot who has already decided to shut his mind down on the subject
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jujuno
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ditto... going to watch the footy...please God, don't let Manly win again... |
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jujuno
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I might believe in God if Souths ever win the premiership again...
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Browndog
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I think you are condemned to agnosticism, at least forever
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Hollywood
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From the mind of man ............ an evil and mischevious man to boot
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max manewer
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jujuno
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very likely... God is obviously a Manly supporter.... |
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Browndog
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That has never been in doubt
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