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    Posted: 06 Jun 2018 at 8:06pm
Originally posted by Browndog Browndog wrote:
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If you are true believer why would you be ever be afraid of dying ?
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This has now been reported as probably fake
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Crocodile 'jumped out of the lake' to kill pastor during mass baptism in Ethiopia

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A baptism in Ethiopia has gone horribly wrong, with a crocodile attacking and killing the pastor during a waterside service.

Eighty people were gathered at Lake Abaya while Docho Eshetem, the Protestant clergyman, conducted a mass baptism in the shallow water.

"He baptised the first person and he passed on to another one," a local resident told the BBC.

"All of a sudden, a crocodile jumped out of the lake and grabbed the pastor."

According to The Telegraph, members of the congregation looked on in horror as fishermen attempted to rescue the pastor.

Despite their efforts to block the crocodile with their nets, by the time they reached Mr Eshetem he was already dead.

Lake Abaya is well known for having a large crocodile population.

The Lonely Planet warns the crocodiles can be aggressive towards people and animals because the lake has few fish.

Reports say it was likely a Nile crocodile that killed the pastor, as the species is thought to be responsible for more than 300 attacks on humans every year in Africa.

The reptiles can grow to be up to six metres long and weigh as much as one tonne.
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How comically true
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Don't know about that either, 1-1, I know nuffink............but if you know you know nuffink, you know somefink........or somefink like that.
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Originally posted by Browndog Browndog wrote:

Where did God come from?
That is such an easy and obvious question to answer ................
 
From the mind of man ............ an evil and mischevious man to boot
Some desperately want to believe, others equally desperate to disbelieve,  yet other people don't fancy themselves clever enough to know, those people are smarter than they think, imo ! Wink 
Touch self-congratualty Max Wink
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very likely...
 God is obviously a Manly supporter....

that may be but at the moment she's bl--dy well moonlighting in the Richmond forward line.  Unhappy



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suck it up ... Life isn't run at w.f.a. :)
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Originally posted by Browndog Browndog wrote:

Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

 I might believe in God if Souths ever win the premiership again...

 

I think you are condemned to agnosticism, at least foreverLOL

 very likely...

 God is obviously a Manly supporter....

 
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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Originally posted by Browndog Browndog wrote:

Where did God come from?
That is such an easy and obvious question to answer ................
 
From the mind of man ............ an evil and mischevious man to boot
Some desperately want to believe, others equally desperate to disbelieve,  yet other people don't fancy themselves clever enough to know, those people are smarter than they think, imo ! Wink 
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Originally posted by Browndog Browndog wrote:

Where did God come from?
That is such an easy and obvious question to answer ................
 
From the mind of man ............ an evil and mischevious man to boot
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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

 I might believe in God if Souths ever win the premiership again...

 

I think you are condemned to agnosticism, at least foreverLOL
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 I might believe in God if Souths ever win the premiership again...

 
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

An obvious next question, but that is where I give up, my head hurts LOL

 ditto...

 going to watch the footy...please God, don't let Manly win again...

 
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Originally posted by Browndog Browndog wrote:

Where did God come from?
Questions like that are simply an artefact of the way the rational mind has evolved to work, it does not have any application to an undifferentiated unity, and the mystics all agree, in God there is no distinction. It is the workings of the mind that create distinction and discrimination, but in the totality, all is one.

A disciplined Socratic thought process does not preclude curiosity and clear mindedness does not prevent you from being teachable. In fact it makes you more open than the closed minded zealot who has already decided to shut his mind down on the subject
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There is a great deal of illusion in our perceptions, the young can be excused for failing to recognize that, those of us with more more experience, less so. What seemed earth-shattering as a child can be looked back upon with mirth in adulthood, maybe that is indicative of how we would see our adult behaviours if we could "grow" into a greater maturity than most achieve.
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Why is the human race so arrogant to think they matter more than any other living or non-living thing in the magnificent universe ? If we were invaded by aliens would we still believe we were Gods chosen ones ?
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Originally posted by Browndog Browndog wrote:

Where did God come from?
Questions like that are simply an artefact of the way the rational mind has evolved to work, it does not have any application to an undifferentiated unity, and the mystics all agree, in God there is no distinction. It is the workings of the mind that create distinction and discrimination, but in the totality, all is one.
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An obvious next question, but that is where I give up, my head hurts LOL
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Where did God come from?
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 I feel for you Max...or is it George Pell...

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Your feelings are reciprocated. LOL
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Dinosaurs lived on the planet 925 times longer than humans have (up until now)
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

It is impossible to imagine a world in which there is no suffering of creatures, except if there is no life at all. Pain and suffering and fear evolved as an impetus or spur, to move away from threatening situations, in the interests of preserving life. If we never felt pain, physical or psychological, or experienced fear, we would not be alive for long.

 
 
What is Gods motivation for cancers in Children ?
 
 
The answer to that problem, is likely that in our egos we value far too much our earthly existences, especially if we insist there is nothing beyond it, and I have witnessed much that tells me that presumption is startlingly wrong. We know we will be brought to nothingness on this Earth, individually and collectively, to cling to it as the be all and end all seems void and futile to me.
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The people who are talking about Jesus, and animals going to heaven are completely on the wrong track.
These things are religion's interpretation and as such are a load of garbage as the mystery of god is unfathomable.
Doesn't mean there isn't or couldn't be a god of some sort.
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A lot of people struggle, imo, to separate conceptions of God from the phenomenon of organized religion. The best that probably can be said is that organized religion is e.g., a loaf of bread rises.


I don't , I actively dislike organised religion and its smugness, preaching, hypocrisy,bullying and certainty.

Doesn't stop me from being an agnostic, that is acknowledging the possible existence of "god" or some sort of all encompassing spirit.
For all the logical scientific arguments debunking god it always comes back to the question how did it all start, where did that first amoeba come from.
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The universe is 13.77 billion years old..........the earth a mere 4.54 billion..........homo sapiens (us) have been around for approx 200,000 yrs...........& jesus arrived 2,000yrs ago..........mmmmm......just let me think about that for a while !
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Do you expect to go to Heaven ....... a place supposedly where there is no sufferring ??
Do animals go to heaven..........if not why not............& at what point in the evolution of man did the big Fella decide "Ok from now on Heaven is an option" ?
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