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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

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Why is it not news worthy that Victorian Stewards were investigating the possibility that Peter Moody was training some of Mahers horses ?

I find that absolutely news worthy.


 
 
It is only newsworthy if he was there. Until then, its scuttlebutt. They created a story based on zero fact. That's gossip, not news.

No the story is that The Stewards were investigating the situation.

It was absolutely news worthy. 
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No, it isn't.
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You must read The Daily Terrorgraph in Sydney?
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Yes it is.
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I like Maher but if you lay down with dogs.......
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Why ?

They would not write anything newsworthy.

This is absolutely newsworthy.


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Originally posted by Delta Deel Delta Deel wrote:

I like Maher but if you lay down with dogs.......

I like Peter Moody.


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That is not to call Moods a dog in anyway as that would be way too harsh. But by Maher taking over these stables with some of the Moody's horses amongst them he is going to continue to cop heat from racing Vic. I wonder if it is worth the trouble.
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Originally posted by Delta Deel Delta Deel wrote:

I like Maher but if you lay down with dogs.......
 
 
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probably read the one below it. I am not Moody's biggest fan, I do think he got caught out cheating. I do not think he is a dog however.


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So every trainer that took horses off Moody is what?
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

So every trainer that took horses off Moody is what?

I only have heard gossip and innuendo sub, so to escape the wrath of your scrutiny I will not be going down any path with what I have heard. But I have been told there is more to this story by folks that have connections with some of the horses involved.
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Why, when we want to be derogatory towards somebody do we call them a dog as if dogs are somehow bad ?

Call him a moron or something but not a dog. Dogs deserve better.


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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:


And to use the headline Stewards raid Maher stables was pathetic. The Age is basically finished as a paper. This country is deplorable for newspapers. The Australian and the Newscorpse are abysmal and the Age seems hellbent on following them. Take me back to the UK!!! Amazing papers there.


While the papers here are awful, to suggest that they are any better in the UK is way off the mark. They wrote the script and our papers followed.

Won't even mention the low rags names...
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God there's some bullgelati around racing and on forums.
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Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

God there's some bullgelati around racing and on forums.

So, Does that mean you thought the story was a non event ?


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It means Bartley was obviously struggling for something to write about, and more, djebel. If reporting on routine RV work is the best he has, Fairfax might as well show him the door. The rest I'll leave to you to work out.
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:


And to use the headline Stewards raid Maher stables was pathetic. The Age is basically finished as a paper. This country is deplorable for newspapers. The Australian and the Newscorpse are abysmal and the Age seems hellbent on following them. Take me back to the UK!!! Amazing papers there.


While the papers here are awful, to suggest that they are any better in the UK is way off the mark. They wrote the script and our papers followed.

Won't even mention the low rags names...
 
 
You have options in the UK. We have nothing like The Independent, Guardian (only online here), Telegraph etc to go with Murdoch crap and pompous Times etc.
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

So every trainer that took horses off Moody is what?

I only have heard gossip and innuendo sub, so to escape the wrath of your scrutiny I will not be going down any path with what I have heard. But I have been told there is more to this story by folks that have connections with some of the horses involved.
 
 
You ever thought of a journo contract with Fairfax? Patrick Bartley needs an apprentice.
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Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

It means Bartley was obviously struggling for something to write about, and more, djebel. If reporting on routine RV work is the best he has, Fairfax might as well show him the door. The rest I'll leave to you to work out.

The only people who would think this is a non story are those who are Peter Moody apologists or are so anti Patrick Bartley they let it cloud their judgement. 


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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Originally posted by Straight Connector Straight Connector wrote:

Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:


And to use the headline Stewards raid Maher stables was pathetic. The Age is basically finished as a paper. This country is deplorable for newspapers. The Australian and the Newscorpse are abysmal and the Age seems hellbent on following them. Take me back to the UK!!! Amazing papers there.


While the papers here are awful, to suggest that they are any better in the UK is way off the mark. They wrote the script and our papers followed.

Won't even mention the low rags names...

 
 
You have options in the UK. We have nothing like The Independent, Guardian (only online here), Telegraph etc to go with Murdoch crap and pompous Times etc.


Yeah but we also have nothing like the S*n, the News of the World, Daily Mail etc

Just a disgusting stream of gelatie daily.
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It means Bartley was obviously struggling for something to write about, and more, djebel. If reporting on routine RV work is the best he has, Fairfax might as well show him the door. The rest I'll leave to you to work out.

The only people who would think this is a non story are those who are Peter Moody apologists or are so anti Patrick Bartley they let it cloud their judgement. 


 
Rubbish. Where is the proof Moody has been at the stables? Bartley has none. Maher has come out and said why the stewards were coming and it wasn't to check on Moody. So where is the story?
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

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It means Bartley was obviously struggling for something to write about, and more, djebel. If reporting on routine RV work is the best he has, Fairfax might as well show him the door. The rest I'll leave to you to work out.

The only people who would think this is a non story are those who are Peter Moody apologists or are so anti Patrick Bartley they let it cloud their judgement. 



I'm neither djebel so your conclusion falls at the first hurdle. If Bartley's brief from Fairfax is padded waffle then he's doing his job. The capacity for invention around racing circles and even moreso on forums is apparently limitless. 
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

It means Bartley was obviously struggling for something to write about, and more, djebel. If reporting on routine RV work is the best he has, Fairfax might as well show him the door. The rest I'll leave to you to work out.

The only people who would think this is a non story are those who are Peter Moody apologists or are so anti Patrick Bartley they let it cloud their judgement. 


 
Rubbish. Where is the proof Moody has been at the stables? Bartley has none. Maher has come out and said why the stewards were coming and it wasn't to check on Moody. So where is the story?

He was simply reporting that Stewards were out their looking into the allegation. 

He is not the one making the accusation he is the one reporting it.

Moody's reaction on twitter tells us that Bartleys mail, that he must have got from RV, was probably on the money.

 
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Have you even read Skydancers post linking the article on the last page? I really don't think you have.
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Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

It means Bartley was obviously struggling for something to write about, and more, djebel. If reporting on routine RV work is the best he has, Fairfax might as well show him the door. The rest I'll leave to you to work out.

The only people who would think this is a non story are those who are Peter Moody apologists or are so anti Patrick Bartley they let it cloud their judgement. 



I'm neither djebel so your conclusion falls at the first hurdle. If Bartley's brief from Fairfax is padded waffle then he's doing his job. The capacity for invention around racing circles and even moreso on forums is apparently limitless. 

Oh stop talking your condescending gelati. You are one or the other. It was absolutely newsworthy.

Not earth shattering ground breaking information but it was newsworthy. 


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Have you even read Skydancers post linking the article on the last page? I really don't think you have.

Why did they need satisfaction Peter Moody was not the trainer if there was no suspicion he might have been ?


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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Have you even read Skydancers post linking the article on the last page? I really don't think you have.

Why did they need satisfaction Peter Moody was not the trainer if there was no suspicion he might have been ?


 
 
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I suspect it is no more than the company line.

At the end of the day - It was Newsworthy.


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