Manhattan Rain

Had some extremely impressive types at 2020 Melb sale

Was burnt toast and sacked from the Hunter just before She Will Reign came along, serving just 32 mares in 2016.

Thanks Gay!

Apologies if there is already a thread going on this stallion.

With 2 new stakes winners in the last 2 weeks, and with a record of 5.6% sw to runners.
A golden slipper winner to boot.
This stallion off very low numbers thus far, IMHO stands serious consideration this season.
With a discount I will send him a decent mare and am happy to do so.
He is proven and has one of the best pedigrees in the stud book.
Not a midget either like so many these days.

Could prove to be a fair pick up for Blue Gum.

And the site of this year's slipper winner

His stats are quite good ATM

Just sired his first G1 winner in South Africa.  The Keniworth J & B Met over 2000m.  (or run this year as the sun met celebrated with mumm.

Don't forget he would have served some very good mares in his first season just to get the ball rolling.

The Australian yearling market tends to dump them pretty quickly. Right now I'd be reluctant to make a call on MR one way or another. I'd say the negativity probably comes from trainers who've had a few that couldn't beat their own shadow. It's also based on expectations. His stats would be much better regarded if he was a $9k stallion from Vic or Qld.

Where do opinions sit about him now? His 3yos look to be going OK. His stats are much better now albeit still disappointing given the quality of the mares he served.

I looked at a couple at MM on the weekend and vendors didn't seems that confident despite them being nice types.

88 out of 105 mares were non Teeley from his 2011 crop. However - approx half of the 88 were Arrowfield mares

Be interested to know how many mares went to MR in his first season that didn't belong to Teeley or Arrowfield, I did go thru his first crops on ASB but too lazy to go back thru and do the numbers. Off my memory Teely had a lot of mares that went to MR so this may be some of the reason behind the number of MR stock compared to other sires at the reduction sale (I would not know how many mares Teeley owns). The other thing may be that Arrowfield and Teeley wanted to pump up his first book with mare numbers so they sent him quiet a few to make him look a more attractive proposition at his high first season fee, could have been embarising to go to stud with hype he did and only get a book of 50 to 70

Teeley still kept a lot of stock but I noticed that he sold a lot of the MR. I took that as a sign. Could be misguided by me....but there are better value and WELL performed options. Still will be on the lookout for a very cheap MR filly for breeding.

14 were up for sale at Magic Millions National sale earlier this month. Average price $14,042 with highest $52k.

1     Manhattan Rain (AUS)     14     12     1     1     168500.00     52500.00     14042

I liked a few but steered clear as those that have started did nothing for me. Due to his breeding, I can see him as a strong broodmare sire. I think a MR filly would be the best go.

His breeding as we know is outstanding....however in the sale ring he is a flop.