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    Posted: 25 May 2018 at 11:02pm
Originally posted by Bonjour Bonjour wrote:

Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

And has an association with Coolemoore, now that would be a Big help, certain there was a time when to train at Randwick and Flemington you had to have a No.1 license, not sure though.

No Carioca, I trained at Flemington and I did not hold a No1 Trainer's licence, back in the olden days.....80's.....not sure now though.

No doubt you are correct Bonjour, although I didn't state it there was a time in my youth 50s lol that there was a difference in the No1 and No2 license categories in what they could do or where they could do it, my time was at Randwick though , cheers.
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

And has an association with Coolemoore, now that would be a Big help, certain there was a time when to train at Randwick and Flemington you had to have a No.1 license, not sure though.
No Carioca, I trained at Flemington and I did not hold a No1 Trainer's licence, back in the olden days.....80's.....not sure now though.
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Good stats, my post ref. to SC,
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I couldn't give a fried egg if he trained on the moon , not interested really fwiw.
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7 winners from last 50 = O'Rourke & 36 Stable Returns. Pretty good stats in anyones' book tho' all pretty short.
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If he can fill a stable he's entitled.  

Extensive experience in England and Ireland.  Further experience as foreman or assistant foreman with three of Sydney's top trainers, not counting Freedman.

Just one of any number of trainers trainers at Randwick however some of you have chosen to target him, the new bloke on the block, rather than a host of under performers at the track.

Give him time.  Get a life.
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Originally posted by monty1 monty1 wrote:

Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

And has an association with Coolemoore, now that would be a Big help, certain there was a time when to train at Randwick and Flemington you had to have a No.1 license, not sure though.

So a job for the boys?

Haha, can't help you out their mate, nice to have big clients don't you think?
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[QUOTE=Second Chance] Experienced overseas where he was born, and spent time with major stables in Oz. Was foreman for Michael Freedman, and took over his stable complex when Freedman went overseas.

Most of his horses are 2yo's or even younger, and has a full stable of them, it's a bit rough to single him out in this context.
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So how did this guy who has never held a trainers license gain a prestigious stable at Randwick? If he has a stable full of 2yo’s, surely some of them would have raced?


Is he just a seat warmer for Freedman?
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

And has an association with Coolemoore, now that would be a Big help, certain there was a time when to train at Randwick and Flemington you had to have a No.1 license, not sure though.

So a job for the boys?
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[QUOTE=Second Chance] Experienced overseas where he was born, and spent time with major stables in Oz. Was foreman for Michael Freedman, and took over his stable complex when Freedman went overseas.

Most of his horses are 2yo's or even younger, and has a full stable of them, it's a bit rough to single him out in this context.
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So how did this guy who has never held a trainers license gain a prestigious stable at Randwick? If he has a stable full of 2yo’s, surely some of them would have raced?
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And has an association with Coolemoore, now that would be a Big help, certain there was a time when to train at Randwick and Flemington you had to have a No.1 license, not sure though.
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Experienced overseas where he was born, and spent time with major stables in Oz. Was foreman for Michael Freedman, and took over his stable complex when Freedman went overseas.

Most of his horses are 2yo's or even younger, and has a full stable of them, it's a bit rough to single him out in this context.
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So how does E.O’Rourke, who no one has ever heard of have stables at Randwick, has he had 1 winner in town?
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If I'm correct, the AJC had a performance criteria in place, so many winners or vacate Randwick stables........does anyone know if ATC are the same? Didn't Bob Thomson and Grahame Begg have to leave due to insufficient winners, or failing to meet the stringent AJC rules......why would G Begg who was an institution at headquarters be treated different to AC? or am I on the wrong track here....so to speak.
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If it is true that Anthony Cummings is quitting then he is just getting to the front of the queue in the great trainer exodus

Would be tough to survive as a middle to lower tier trainer on the Sydney and Melbourne circuits at the moment as these trainers are not training enough winners.  Plenty more trainers to quit over the next few years I expect
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His horses all win at once... or not at all... what could that mean?
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Has a list of debtors and creditors longer than the phone book
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Perhaps needs a chest-full of trenbolone to improve his training performance.Ermm
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How much prize money have they earned for that period ? 
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Anthony and Edward Cummings Past 12 Months Stats

Record     Win%     Place%     $ROI
246:20-30-26     8.1%     30.9%     -56.5%
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Anthony and Edward Cummings Season Stats

Record     Win%     Place%     $ROI
201:13-30-22     6.5%     32.3%     -67.1%
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Originally posted by Straight Connector Straight Connector wrote:

Everything to do with this stable is just strange.

I am positive any horse in his stable that is successful, is so, in spite of him.

He never gives his horses a chance to steadily progress through the grades.
He's a good trainer and conditioner but you're right about the placement it is more optimistic than Waterhouse at times. 
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His nickname is deadwood.
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Would that mean, Edward joins his brother at the blue army? Maybe as the Melbourne foreman.
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He has owed everyone for years.
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Everything to do with this stable is just strange.

I am positive any horse in his stable that is successful, is so, in spite of him.

He never gives his horses a chance to steadily progress through the grades.
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If what I am hearing is true you really have to wonder about our racing press and how the hell this has been kept quiet ?
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Rumours doing the rounds they could be closing down.
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Just for curiosities sake I will watch, thanks horseshoe.
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Can't think of one at this point but john Sargent not having a lot of joy lately, Peter Rohbl, what's happened to him, Nikki Bourke in Melb. gone so quiet too, it's a tough gig.

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