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... and the bigger losers than Raelz and the Chairman and the Hateful Intolerant Homosexual Atheist and the Red Bandana Republican are of curse the Australian Rugby team and supporters ... fortunately their numbers are in massive decline anyway ...

In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Fornicating covers all of the crimes not specifically mentioned by Izzy.

Was hard on me ( hope SC doesn't read this )   as Izzy got me on all counts.

I don't want to go to hell .    Anyone whose been married twice , couldn't survive a 3 rd trip .
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Does this statement from the classy Folau's after the settlement was announced come across like they saw themselves as being on the losing side ? I've watched it about 200 times & i just don't see what others claim to see - that RA came out of it anywhere near as well. I would ask these folk to open up their minds & give it another crack ;

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Classy lol, oneone;s idea of classy is someone who does not wear thongs/flip flops to the League club Unhappy
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Does this statement from the classy Folau's after the settlement was announced come across like they saw themselves as being on the losing side ? I've watched it about 200 times & i just don't see what others claim to see - that RA came out of it anywhere near as well. I would ask these folk to open up their minds & give it another crack ;


In all the excitement, he must have forgotten about HIS apology to RA
He also states the only reason he took up this fight was to protect the rights of other religious bigots, except this agreement does none of that, it just gives him a fat cheque.
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 Anyone whose been married twice , couldn't survive a 3 rd trip .

So true Macca !    Geez, you only get 20 years for murder, yet I know some couples who have lived together in hate relationships for 30 years and more.
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Oops - wrong article
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Help PT - i promise not to be nasty to you for a while LOL
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I see Jetstar are out on strike over stalled wage negotiations. Hopefully Joycey will handle the negotiations in person - explaining how some employees on $25/hour don't deserve an increase. You know - suck it up for the good of everyone. Hopefully the subject of his recent 25million pay wont be raised ;

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‘That’s the best I can do for you today, sir’. When reflecting on Raelene Castle’s leadership, I can’t help but be reminded of Frank Spencer in a brilliant 1970s British sitcom.

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When Raelene Castle began as Rugby Australia CEO on January 15, 2018, the ABC reported “she was welcomed with an indigenous smoking ceremony, symbolic of diversity and inclusion”, the headline proclaiming “New Rugby Australia chief Raelene Castle striving for stability after tumultuous 2017”

Just pause there for a moment and reflect on what images come to mind. I am thinking of a scene from that 1970s British sitcom “Some Mothers Do ‘Ave ‘Em” in which Frank Spencer tries his perpetually useless hand as a boiler repairman. His first and only job in that trade ends with his emerging from a house blackened and dishevelled after a massive explosion, while the speechless occupants watch in disbelief. “That’s the best I can do for you today, sir,” he says apologetically as he departs.

It is a fitting comparison to sum up how RA has handled the Israel Folau affair. Having finally settled unfair dismissal action after terminating its star player’s contract for posting on Instagram that homosexuals, fornicators, idolaters, drunks, thieves, atheists and liars would go to hell, RA must now feel like it has done time there. The sum it paid to Folau remains confidential, although The Daily Telegraph has reported it was around $8 million — a figure Castle claims is “wildly inaccurate”. Whether or not it is, there is no doubt which one of the parties was grinning after the settlement. It certainly was not Castle.

Disappointingly there will be no judicial determination regarding RA’s claim that it acted lawfully and Folau’s submission that his termination was due to his religious beliefs and thus unlawful. For better or for worse, we can no longer look forward to the spectacle of a full hearing next February.

On that note, a barrister acquaintance once mentioned the subject of “lobster witnesses”. This was his term for a witness who performed spectacularly badly under cross-examination. “Their face goes bright red and they wave their claws furiously,” he explained. If you are a lawyer in proceedings and you think your client will behave so, then you do everything possible to stop that matter from going to trial, even if it means a painful settlement. Oh to have been a fly on the wall when RA’s lawyers gave Castle and Co frank advice about the reality of their situation.

Another characteristic of lobster witnesses is their verbosity. Conversely, a credible witness knows not to ramble, and a smart client knows to heed the advice of counsel. When RA released a media statement in June to the effect it would “not engage in a running media commentary” while the Folau proceedings were current, it was no doubt acting in accordance with legal advice.

Castle, to the detriment of RA, gave this undertaking lip service. In the wake of the Wallabies’ humiliating exit in the World Cup quarterfinals, she said Folau’s sacking was “a positive thing from a culture perspective”. When asked in June by journalists what she thought of Folau’s request for crowd-funding his case, she stated “It is not a strategy we thought was appropriate”. Not a smart choice of words given Folau’s legal strategy was essentially to portray RA as an overbearing mother.

Last month she denied rugby was in “crisis”, saying she intended staying as CEO for the next four years. Last week The Australian reported former RA boss John O’Neill had been sounded out to take over as the code’s chairman, but that he had flagged picking his own CEO and board. Just imagine RA’s next weekly meeting.

Raelene Castle: Good morning to all. As painful as this subject is, I must begin with Israel.

Hayden Rorke: Otherwise known as Lee Majors.

Castle: Why’s that, because he runs so fast?

Rorke: Nah. Because he’s the six-million-dollar man!

Castle: Aren’t you hilarious. I want to emphasise our conduct in this process has been faultless and that we paid Israel out only because of feedback from the community that they wanted this matter settled. I also want it on record that on ABC Radio National last week a respected author and commentator said about Folau’s case: “If it had gone to the High Court it would have been a slam dunk for Rugby Australia”.

Tim Gavin: Who said that?

Castle: A very respected commentator.

Gavin: Which one?

Castle: Peter.

Gavin: Peter Wilkins?

Castle: No.

Gavin: Peter Meares?

Castle: No.

Gavin: Peter who?

Castle: Peter FitzSimons.

Lawyer: If ever there was vindication for us settling, that prediction was it.

Gavin: You know he also wrote of the settlement: “I have no inside knowledge of the terms, not even a hint, but my bet is it will be about $200,000 to $300,000”?

Castle: Details, details. Next item on the agenda is a request for funding an in-house training course titled “Silence — The Fundamental Urgency: What to Say When Asked to Comment on a Matter Before Court”.

Lawyer: That’s mine.

Castle: What’s involved?

Lawyer: Basically, teaching witnesses in a civil suit not to comment publicly whilst the case …

Castle: Why can’t they comment publicly?

Lawyer: ... is before court. Because trying to defend yourself outside court is never wise, even if….

Castle: Except if you’re the CEO.

Lawyer: Especially if you’re the CEO.

Castle: Yes, but only if the CEO is verbose, defensive, and has a tendency to say the first thing that came into her head. Sounds like unnecessary expenditure. As for ‘Silence — The Fundamental Urgency’, it’s a bit of a longwinded name for a course don’t you reckon?

Lawyer: We’d be using an abbreviation.

Castle: I’ll have a look at it, but I do want to stress that money’s a bit tight right now and we can’t be splurging on luxuries. We must save that for essentials.

Phil Waugh: You mean for players, coaching staff, equipment and the like?

Castle: Yes, essentials like that four-day tour I did in New York in September to brief the United Nations on what we are doing about expanding gender equity and LGBTI programs to other countries. That sort of thing. Next item. Now as you know I’ve directed that all meetings from now on will have a fans’ representative to give their perspective. Welcome, Joe.

Joe: Thank you.

Castle: As I said the other day, spectators are of immeasurable importance to the game, second only to sponsors. I understand you’d like to talk about updating our values.

Joe: Yes, I’ll just read them out: discipline, integrity, respect, passion and teamwork. Have you ever thought of adding “winning” to that list?

Castle: Excellent point. Can we have that as an action item please: form working group on the question of winning over the remaining 64 genders to rugby.

Joe: I was talking about the scoreboard.

Castle: Further action item: all scoreboards to be rainbow coloured. I want that actioned before the next AGM. Thanks for coming in, Joe. Who’s your team by the way?

Joe: Yeah, it’s the Western Force.

Cameron Clyne: Is that the time already?

Joe: Unfortunately Rugby Australia wasn’t as inclusive as it made out.

Clyne: Allow me to show you out, Joe.

Castle: Just to clarify what I said about having a spectators’ representative at all meetings, that was more aspirational rather than obligatory — actually let’s just forget it altogether. Next is the standing item on the agenda, the compiling of the Rugby Australia bible. HR, how are going with rewording Corinthians 6:9?

HR: Revised wording as follows: “Do not be deceived: Neither the Instagram nor Twitter dissenters nor those who fornicate with our lucrative sponsorship deals, nor those who put God before their employer, nor those who disagree with any policy issued in the name of ‘Inclusiveness’ shall inherit the kingdom of God unless they repent.”

Castle: Lose the “unless they repent” clause. No more second chances.

HR: Got it.

Castle: While you’re there, make sure you highlight Ephesians 6:5: ‘Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ.’ That one can stay as is. Moving on now, I understand David asked to attend this meeting to give an update on what’s happening from the players’ perspective.

David Pocock: Thank you, Raelene. I will be brief. I just wanted to announce that Emma and I have decided not to have children as we are devoting our lives to saving the planet.

Castle: Thank you, David. Anything else?

Pocock: That’s it.

Castle: Final agenda item, the AGM in March. Can I just say I intend staying as CEO for the next four years and that rumours to the contrary are …

PA: Sorry to interrupt, but there’s a Mr John O’Neill in reception who wants to speak to you urgently. Something about a positive thing from a culture perspective?

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Does being "inclusive" include ensuring everyone works harmoniously together & gets a fair & equitable wage ? I cant understand why someone on 50k/year - & who hasn't had a pay increase for years - would see their top man getting 25 million as being unreasonable ! They should just get on with itso his bonus wont be impacted this year
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Thanks for that PT. It is quite funny. Cheers
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Despite all the deeply hurtful things you say to me.....I took one for the team. 
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Haven't read it yet. 
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Does being "inclusive" include ensuring everyone works harmoniously together & gets a fair & equitable wage ? I cant understand why someone on 50k/year - & who hasn't had a pay increase for years - would see their top man getting 25 million as being unreasonable ! They should just get on with itso his bonus wont be impacted this year



I see you still haven’t managed to ask someone to read the financial statements properly for you. If you’d like some help working out the actual number he got paid let me know. Will be happy to help a financial dunce like you out.   
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Lets make it 5 million if that helps - that's a lot more reasonable LOL
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Lets make it 5 million if that helps - that's a lot more reasonable LOL




Perfectly reasonable. Standard salary for a CEO in this country. Good on him for reaping the benefits of a much increased share price.
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Um - that's what i got PT to do for me. Dont be so hard tlazz  Ouch
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Lets make it 5 million if that helps - that's a lot more reasonable LOL

That was my pick, and you bagged it.
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Hey oneone, 2GB and their new owners Channel NINE sacked Steve Price today and replaced him with Deb Knight who has been moved on to make way for Karl to return to Breakfast. Yes, Deb Knight, she replaced Karl to nice up the morning show. 

The Parrot must be on very thin ice with 2GB making themselves normal people friendly. Wink
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