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    Posted: 13 Nov 2018 at 10:17pm
Opinions? I see something that bothers me and wondering if others do to
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I may make a goose of myself but the upright patterns?
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

I may make a goose of myself but the upright patterns?


That's what I thought as well.
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

I may make a goose of myself but the upright patterns?


Well if we’re wrong, make that geese, as in 3!
Yep my thoughts exactly. And he cost a motzah.
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Originally posted by Sister Dot Sister Dot wrote:

Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

I may make a goose of myself but the upright patterns?


And he cost a motzah.


Come on then, more detail, can’t leave us hanging
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Originally posted by Sister Dot Sister Dot wrote:

Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

I may make a goose of myself but the upright patterns?


And he cost a motzah.


Come on then, more detail, can’t leave us hanging

If I tell you I might have to commit HaraKari
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I thought minimal foot developement may be the reason the foal stands a little high, maybe with a little growth in the toe area and running in the paddock may bring the pasterns to an angle to cause you less worry , ( just a couch opinion, I know little fwiw.)
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I had a foal so knockneed i thought he would have to be put down.

now a 4 year old as straight as a die, without intervention.

With maturity that foal will develop nicely.

past practices had vets interfering to the detriment.

is amazing what nature does.

 
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Intervention isn't on.  Nature can heal, but not so in this case imo.  

Whilst the angle might change the youngster will always be too straight.


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the angle of the shoulder will dictate the angle of the pastern.
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Correct.  However that observation isn't going to change the angle of this one's pasterns.
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Originally posted by Sister Dot Sister Dot wrote:

Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

I may make a goose of myself but the upright patterns?


And he cost a motzah.


Come on then, more detail, can’t leave us hanging


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Alan Morton made me realise that all the good blood in the world won’t do any good if the conformation won’t stand up to the rigours of a racing prep 🤓👌
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Having said that, many that didn’t look right have become successful racers, but statistically.........
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All very confusing.

My Jen's first three foals sold for low prices and have done nothing, so can't quite work out why this one sold so well.
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$265k.

average price nowadays.
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in the end a nice sprint conformation.
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Nicer than this one that went for 500k, same sale, by Maurice.
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Do some hard yards please Isaac.  Her first three foals sold for an average of about $7,000 Aud and were by Champion sires Deep Impact and Hard Spun.
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hard yards. how so?

you dont think 265k is average nowadays?

an auction? you should know only takes two to really want something to push the price along.
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Yes $265k is about average Isaac.

But perhaps overs for a sibling to three failed horses sired by two champions, almost not to mention for a foal with a clear conformational fault.
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Statistics & commercial appeal aside, anyone who rides or has, will know how jarry these straight pasterned jobs are to ride - bloody awful to be honest & if they're affecting me, they sure aren't doing their own bodies any favours Disapprove
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I was working from memory,never a good thing. But still, sold for decent money
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I would think a the pasterns would be more a fault if the shoulder angle was more pronounced which it is not . By memory Statue of Liberty has very upright pasterns but didnt stop his ability on the track or in the barn . In saying that his track career was short and his best progeny Had pretty bad hoof crack issues .Alot of foals seem a little upright to start but this foal is more than a week old .I hope it runs like the wind .
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I accept everyone's concern about those pasterns but what jumped out at me on both of those foal pics were the knees ... top one  is more so but both look to my eyes anyway as if they (the knees) are turned out in relation to what is above and below them.



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Foals are naturally more upright than yearlings, he looks fine to me in that regard.

Much better being a little upright than too slack, especially in Australia.
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