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    Posted: 16 Oct 2016 at 12:10pm
Been playing around with ideas for a tipping comp that avoids the pitfalls of favourites being chosen constantly so thought that the Flemington Carnival might be a good week to give it a go.

Rules:

  • Points/leader board will be based on prizemoney won by the horses you selected, multiplied by its starting price, for top five finishes.
  • Select one horse for each black type race.
Working example:

Race 8 - 4:30PM BMW Caulfield Cup (2400 METRES)
Of $3,000,000. 1st $1,750,000, 2nd $425,000, 3rd $225,000, 4th $125,000, 5th $100,000, 6th $75,000, 7th $75,000, 8th $75,000, 9th $75,000, 10th $75,000Group 1
Handicap, Minimum Weight 50.5kg, Weight Raised 0.5kg, Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 3 Time: 2:28.88 Last 600m: 0:35.72 Timing Method: Electronic

ColorFinishNoHorseTrainerJockeyMarginBar.WeightStarting Price
111JAMEKACiaron MaherNicholas Hall1151.5kg$4.20
24SCOTTISHCharlie ApplebyKerrin McEvoy3L654.5kg$7
33EXOSPHERICLee & Anthony FreedmanDamien Oliver3.75L355kg$15
47ALMOONQITHDavid & B Hayes & T DabernigMichael Walker4.25L253.5kg$71

If you had chosen JAMEKA, you would have gotten $1,750,000 x $4.2 = $7,350,000
If you had chosen SCOTTISH, you would have gotten $425,000 x $7 = $2,975,000
If you had chosen EXOSPHERIC, you would have gotten $225,000 x $15 = $3,375,000
If you had chosen ALMOONQITH, you would have gotten $125,000 x $71 =$8,875,000


So basically rewards those finding value that have horses get up within first four parameters... different approach and hopefully make things interesting. Happy to run it if others are interested in giving it a go!StarStar

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I'd be in. Only chance I'll ever get to be a multimillionaire.
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I'll have a crack and can help out with the scoring if needed
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Awesome. I noticed I mentioned top five and then top four - any preference as to which we go with for a qualifier. Figured fourth comes within 'First Four' lines which makes more sense....
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So Day One this weekend - Derby Day! Here's the races and the prizemoney - you just need to find the value in a horse that runs in the first four.

Race 1 - Coolmore Stud Stakes (1200 METRES)
Of $500,000. 1st $300,000, 2nd $90,000, 3rd $45,000, 4th $22,500, 5th $12,500, 6th $10,000, 7th $10,000, 8th $10,000Group 1
No class restriction, Set Weights, Three-Years-Old, No sex restriction
This race carries a SUPER VOBIS Nominators Bonus of $10,000 for qualified horses.
Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf

Race 2 - Carbine Club Stakes (1600 METRES)
Of $200,000. 1st $120,000, 2nd $36,000, 3rd $18,000, 4th $9,000, 5th $5,000, 6th $4,000, 7th $4,000, 8th $4,000Group 3
No class restriction, Set Weights plus Penalties, Three-Years-Old, No sex restriction
This race carries a SUPER VOBIS Nominators Bonus of $10,000 for qualified horses.
Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf

Race 3 - AAMI Victoria Derby (2500 METRES)
Of $1,500,000. 1st $900,000, 2nd $270,000, 3rd $135,000, 4th $67,500, 5th $37,500, 6th $30,000, 7th $30,000, 8th $30,000Group 1
No class restriction, Set Weights, Three-Years-Old, No sex restriction
A horse which has not received advertised prizemoney of $500 or more for having been placed 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th,or 5th in a flat race shall not be declared as a final acceptor.
This race carries a SUPER VOBIS Nominators Bonus of $10,000 for qualified horses.
Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf

Race 4 - Absolut Botanik Wakeful Stakes (2000 METRES)
Of $300,000. 1st $180,000, 2nd $54,000, 3rd $27,000, 4th $13,500, 5th $7,500, 6th $6,000, 7th $6,000, 8th $6,000Group 2
No class restriction, Set Weights plus Penalties, Three-Years-Old, Fillies
This race carries a SUPER VOBIS Nominators Bonus of $10,000 for qualified horses.
Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf

Race 5 - tab.com.au Stakes (1200 METRES)
Of $300,000. 1st $180,000, 2nd $54,000, 3rd $27,000, 4th $13,500, 5th $7,500, 6th $6,000, 7th $6,000, 8th $6,000Group 2
No class restriction, Handicap, No age restriction, No sex restriction
Maidens at time of entry are ineligible.
Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf

Race 6 - Cantala Stakes (1600 METRES)
Of $1,000,000. 1st $600,000, 2nd $180,000, 3rd $90,000, 4th $45,000, 5th $25,000, 6th $20,000, 7th $20,000, 8th $20,000Group 1
No class restriction, Quality, Minimum Weight 50kg, No age restriction, No sex restriction
Maidens at time of entry are ineligible. Minimum weight for 3yos: 50kg, 4yo&up 52kg. 
Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf

Race 7 - Lexus Stakes (2500 METRES)
Of $300,000. 1st $180,000, 2nd $54,000, 3rd $27,000, 4th $13,500, 5th $7,500, 6th $6,000, 7th $6,000, 8th $6,000Group 3
No class restriction, Quality, No age restriction, No sex restriction
Maidens at time of entry are ineligible.
Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf

Race 8 - Sensis Stakes (1100 METRES)
Of $200,000. 1st $120,000, 2nd $36,000, 3rd $18,000, 4th $9,000, 5th $5,000, 6th $4,000, 7th $4,000, 8th $4,000Group 3
No class restriction, Set Weights plus Penalties, Four-Years-Old and Upwards, Mares
Maidens at time of entry are ineligible. 
Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf

Race 9 - Myer Classic (1600 METRES)
Of $500,000. 1st $300,000, 2nd $90,000, 3rd $45,000, 4th $22,500, 5th $12,500, 6th $10,000, 7th $10,000, 8th $10,000Group 1
No class restriction, Standard Weight for Age, Three-Years-Old and Upwards, Fillies and Mares
Maidens at time of entry are ineligible.
Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf
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Originally posted by StormSiren StormSiren wrote:

So Day One this weekend - Derby Day! Here's the races and the prizemoney - you just need to find the value in a horse that runs in the first four.

Race 1 - Coolmore Stud Stakes (1200 METRES)
Of $500,000. 1st $300,000, 2nd $90,000, 3rd $45,000, 4th $22,500, 5th $12,500, 6th $10,000, 7th $10,000, 8th $10,000Group 1
No class restriction, Set Weights, Three-Years-Old, No sex restriction
This race carries a SUPER VOBIS Nominators Bonus of $10,000 for qualified horses.
Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf

Race 2 - Carbine Club Stakes (1600 METRES)
Of $200,000. 1st $120,000, 2nd $36,000, 3rd $18,000, 4th $9,000, 5th $5,000, 6th $4,000, 7th $4,000, 8th $4,000Group 3
No class restriction, Set Weights plus Penalties, Three-Years-Old, No sex restriction
This race carries a SUPER VOBIS Nominators Bonus of $10,000 for qualified horses.
Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf

Race 3 - AAMI Victoria Derby (2500 METRES)
Of $1,500,000. 1st $900,000, 2nd $270,000, 3rd $135,000, 4th $67,500, 5th $37,500, 6th $30,000, 7th $30,000, 8th $30,000Group 1
No class restriction, Set Weights, Three-Years-Old, No sex restriction
A horse which has not received advertised prizemoney of $500 or more for having been placed 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th,or 5th in a flat race shall not be declared as a final acceptor.
This race carries a SUPER VOBIS Nominators Bonus of $10,000 for qualified horses.
Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf

Race 4 - Absolut Botanik Wakeful Stakes (2000 METRES)
Of $300,000. 1st $180,000, 2nd $54,000, 3rd $27,000, 4th $13,500, 5th $7,500, 6th $6,000, 7th $6,000, 8th $6,000Group 2
No class restriction, Set Weights plus Penalties, Three-Years-Old, Fillies
This race carries a SUPER VOBIS Nominators Bonus of $10,000 for qualified horses.
Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf

Race 5 - tab.com.au Stakes (1200 METRES)
Of $300,000. 1st $180,000, 2nd $54,000, 3rd $27,000, 4th $13,500, 5th $7,500, 6th $6,000, 7th $6,000, 8th $6,000Group 2
No class restriction, Handicap, No age restriction, No sex restriction
Maidens at time of entry are ineligible.
Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf

Race 6 - Cantala Stakes (1600 METRES)
Of $1,000,000. 1st $600,000, 2nd $180,000, 3rd $90,000, 4th $45,000, 5th $25,000, 6th $20,000, 7th $20,000, 8th $20,000Group 1
No class restriction, Quality, Minimum Weight 50kg, No age restriction, No sex restriction
Maidens at time of entry are ineligible. Minimum weight for 3yos: 50kg, 4yo&up 52kg. 
Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf

Race 7 - Lexus Stakes (2500 METRES)
Of $300,000. 1st $180,000, 2nd $54,000, 3rd $27,000, 4th $13,500, 5th $7,500, 6th $6,000, 7th $6,000, 8th $6,000Group 3
No class restriction, Quality, No age restriction, No sex restriction
Maidens at time of entry are ineligible.
Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf

Race 8 - Sensis Stakes (1100 METRES)
Of $200,000. 1st $120,000, 2nd $36,000, 3rd $18,000, 4th $9,000, 5th $5,000, 6th $4,000, 7th $4,000, 8th $4,000Group 3
No class restriction, Set Weights plus Penalties, Four-Years-Old and Upwards, Mares
Maidens at time of entry are ineligible. 
Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf

Race 9 - Myer Classic (1600 METRES)
Of $500,000. 1st $300,000, 2nd $90,000, 3rd $45,000, 4th $22,500, 5th $12,500, 6th $10,000, 7th $10,000, 8th $10,000Group 1
No class restriction, Standard Weight for Age, Three-Years-Old and Upwards, Fillies and Mares
Maidens at time of entry are ineligible.
Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf
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Count me in Storm Siren, as I tend to avoid the obvious, this type of tipping may suit!
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Might even suit me but I'm sure mine would then finish 5th!  Bad day to start on as it my grandaughters birthday!  I'm even going to be late getting the out comp up in time so I'll have to warn people there I'll be late.  That family really loves me and my job.  They got married on Cox Plate day!
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Happy for points to run to fifth - I mentioned that first at the top.

Good thing with this comp - hopefully - is that even if you do miss a meeting, you should be able to catch up finding that Roughie that does well!
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Hi guys is it too late to start /join ?
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Not at all - We start this Saturday. Comp will include blacktype races (G1-Listed) at Flemington on:

29/10 - DERBY DAY
1/11 - MELBOURNE CUP DAY
3/11 - OAKS DAY
5/11 - STAKES DAY
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G3 The Carbine Club Stakes


Horse Details
Last 10CareerRtgW%P%Avg $WgtBarBest Odds
13111s04218 4-1-110050%75%$49,1125812$4.60
29406s038s210 1-1-27510%40%$46,820565$21.00
351s122s127 3-3-07943%86%$31,967564$5.00
47033s116 2-0-27033%67%$19,3005611$41.00
5111s24 3-1-07475%100%$31,012566$8.50
677122461s89 2-2-07322%44%$11,6195610$31.00
7311s315 3-0-27460%100%$21,471567$5.00
88696s33368 0-0-3670%38%$8,171569$21.00
92823s15 1-2-16920%80%$9,710561$21.00
10212 1-1-06550%100%$26,012563$6.00
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And the rest don't want to post properly... just remember to look at the form and write in your roughies!
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Chloe In Paris
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Don't necessarily need to be rough, they just need to get in the top 5!

I'll go with:

Bezel
Alliterate
Tempt Me Not
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I'm heading down to Melbourne so will calculate the points on my return sunday!!
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I have no idea how these will go but good luck everyone I'm glad I'm not sorting this one out as my maths is just not up to it.
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Flemington  Race 1  High Mist

Flemington  Race 2  Miss Rock
Flemington  Race 3  Zara Bay

Flemington  Race 4  Black Tomahawk
Flemington  Race 5  Star Turn

Flemington  Race 6  First Seal
Flemington  Race 7  Sacred Elixer

Flemington  Race 8  Hopfgarten
Flemington  Race 9  Dibayani

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Vezelay
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Ok, took a little while to calculate but here's the leaderboard after Derby Day!

CARIOCA  $18,615,750
STORM SIREN $10,687,500
FURIOUS $  5,967,000
SUBASTRAL $  5,560,000
DILLWAR $  2,832,900
SECOND CHANCE $  1,720,800
MAGNOLIAN KHAN $  1,710,000
WRINKLES $  1,210,500

Melbourne Cup Day, Oaks Day and Stakes Day to go... 
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Races included on Cup Day as follows:

Race 1 - OTTAWA STAKES
1st $90,000, 2nd $27,000, 3rd $13,500, 4th $6,750, 5th $3,750

Race 6 - LEXUS HYBRID PLATE
1st $90,000, 2nd $27,000, 3rd $13,500, 4th $6,750, 5th $3,750

Race 7 - EMIRATES MELBOURNE CUP
1st $3,600,000, 2nd $900,000, 3rd $450,000, 4th $250,000, 5th $175,000

Race 8 - JAMES BOAG'S PREMIUM STAKES
1st $90,000, 2nd $27,000, 3rd $13,500, 4th $6,750, 5th $3,750

Race 9 - MSS SECURITY SPRINT
1st $90,000, 2nd $27,000, 3rd $13,500, 4th $6,750, 5th $3,75

Race 10 - THE HONG KONG JOCKEY CLUB STAKES
1st $120,000, 2nd $36,000, 3rd $18,000, 4th $9,000, 5th $5,000
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Whoops forgot to enter

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Madeenaty
Faraway Town
Qewy
Tashbeeh
Well Sprung
Onemorezetta

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Madeenaty
My Country
Almandin
Plot The Course
Ruettiger
Artistry

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Invincible Star
Invincibella
Almandin (mcevoy has been winning all spring)
Tarquin
Ravi
Rockolicious

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My Country
Secret Number
Closing Bell
Ravi
Egyptian Symbol
 
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