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In February, 2004, Lago Delight was sold for a seven figure sum to a syndicate headed by David Hayes and joined the stable of Lindsay Park

The entire had only one run for the Hayes’ syndicate, finishing ninth in the 2004 Group 1 Australia Stakes (1200m, Moonee Valley) before injuries ended his career. Marconi bought the horse back off the syndicate and sent him to stand at Bombora Downs, on the Mornington Peninsula.

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Noticed 8yr old gelding Goldtown (Sunday Silence - Bright Finish) will be at Ascot on Saturday.
 
$1.5m yearling and has current earnings of $280k.  Hasn't won since July 09. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote John H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2010 at 4:29pm
One old-time expensive flop came to mind recently.

In the fifties there was a colt by the Epsom Derby winner Pinza from an imported mare named Method which topped the Easter Yearling Sale setting a new record I think. He was bought by Frank Packer.

Anyway, named Matinee Idol he was of little account but did stand at stud north of Tamworth & sired a few handy horses for Packer in the late 60s or so, but nothing approaching stakes class.

One of his minor winners (in WA) was the mare Pak Bun Bay, the third dam of So You Think.


 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote questions Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2010 at 4:59pm
Originally posted by Glenmore Glenmore wrote:

Recall that the Green Monkey was the centre of a bidding dual between Godolphin and Coolmore with both sides too proud (and stupid) to pull out and let the other 'win'--by the time common sense arrived on the scene a lot of damage had been done.  He had supposedly breezed up in some sensational time prior to the sale--bet the vendors are still having a good laugh.


this was crazy, it was a ready to run sale and they had clocked the horse running less than 10 seconds for 200m.

he went back to stand at stud at the farm that sold him in the first place. so they sold him for $16million and got him back for nothing

i remember reading once about mr prospectors brother being sold for a mint and not winning a maiden


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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

I was going to mention Von Costa De Hero, but he won $1.15 mil and cost $2 mil, so he wasn't a disaster as others mentioned have been, and he'll be well out in front after a few stud seasons...
 
But for a half head, he would have just about won his purchase price back in a single race. And not too long after he was bought.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote heavygoing Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2010 at 6:21pm
Actually that turned out to be a very expensive half stride for the owners... 2 mio yearling Golden Slipper winner vs.....Group winning, G1 placing horse.....
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Originally posted by Morgan Dollar Morgan Dollar wrote:

 
Another that comes to mind is the regally bred DEJAVU ROCK who was bought for a lazy $3.3 million and has managed just the one win on a Sunday at Orange and at her most recent start ran a 62.6L last at Bairnsdale...
 
 
 
You're thinking of Nodoubt Deja by Redoute's Choice ex Deja Slew.
 
Races or raced in South Africa.
 
Dejavu Rock didn't go through a sale as a yearling.
 
Sold at a tried horse sale for $20,000 mid year.
 
6 starts, 2 wins and3 placings, albeit in the country.
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Originally posted by BLU44 BLU44 wrote:

I have a vague recollection of a horse named Paint the Stars, purchased as a yearling for over $800k. It was owned by Robert Holmes a'Court,and I was surprised to find on checking that its failure at the track was in the early '80s (confirms my advanced age!), which I reckon makes it the Prince of Flops, given subsequent inflation.
PtS was apparently a bit more successful in the breeding barn


thats the one i was thinking of too,,,,we must be the same vintage !
dont think he did very well in the breeding barn either !!!
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Early 80's Paint The Stars (Luskin Star x Visit) went for a then record $750,000 from memory, and it was probably Lloyd Willams that bought him.
Biggest flop of the era, can't recall his career record though.
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Originally posted by Flight Flight wrote:

Noticed 8yr old gelding Goldtown (Sunday Silence - Bright Finish) will be at Ascot on Saturday.
 
$1.5m yearling and has current earnings of $280k.  Hasn't won since July 09. 


ran in a kalgoorlie cup and couldnt win it either.
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Originally posted by Shakamaker Shakamaker wrote:

Early 80's Paint The Stars (Luskin Star x Visit) went for a then record $750,000 from memory, and it was probably Lloyd Willams that bought him.
Biggest flop of the era, can't recall his career record though.


it was robert holmes a court bought him,,,,,big flop,,,on the track and off it .
animals before people.
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ahhhh that's it, old Bob, thanks acacia
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Originally posted by Shakamaker Shakamaker wrote:

Early 80's Paint The Stars (Luskin Star x Visit) went for a then record $750,000 from memory, and it was probably Lloyd Willams that bought him.
Biggest flop of the era, can't recall his career record though.


it was robert holmes a court bought him,,,,,big flop,,,on the track and off it .


Someone mentioned it before you on the front page Shaka - read it all first LOL
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I need a drink mate, I read from troppo's post at top of page 2 thinking it was the original post LOL
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Libertarian is another that comes to mind. Sold for $2m, struggled at the Sydney midweeks and lightening my wallet along the way Angry Now struggling up in Queensland.
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$1500 for Takeover Target should top the list.
Massive flop imo LOL
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I think we need a like button ala Facebook on here. First post I'd like is the one above - too true, he's top of the list by panels! Hahahaha....
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Zyzxx - Have a feeling he was the top priced lot at a yearling sale. Has only won the 4 races for $151330 in prizemoney.
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murpheys blu boy. 50% sold to some poor buggers for $1mill or something, got injured and never raced again.
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I thought it was Holmes acourt ??
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dont lets forget the high priced stallions that have gone to the barn and are shooting blanks !!
be a bit sad for the studs that paid a motza for these stallions,,,,only to get zero fertility.
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Coubertin could be one of those Dead
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Shakamaker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2010 at 7:19pm
Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

dont lets forget the high priced stallions that have gone to the barn and are shooting blanks !!
be a bit sad for the studs that paid a motza for these stallions,,,,only to get zero fertility.
 
Isn't there insurance for this?
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Originally posted by Grinnersawinner Grinnersawinner wrote:

Zyzxx - Have a feeling he was the top priced lot at a yearling sale. Has only won the 4 races for $151330 in prizemoney.

Then we paid 50k for him at tried sale had 6 starts for nothing and fractured a sesamoid . Hard to improve one off moloney
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Wasnt Mike Willesee (the tv presenter) involved in the Paint the Stars debacle?
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Here's the list of horses that have been sold for over $2m between 2006 and 2010:

Nodoubt Deja - no info
Sakib - 2 starts for 1 win at Scone and a third at Wyong
Saperavi - 4 starts for a win at Ashburton and a third in a Listed race at Ashburton (NZ)
Allied Force - 15 starts for 3 wins at Bendigo and Moonee Valley (x2), 4 minor placings
Perfect Persuasion - 10 starts for a win at Kyneton and a third in the Talindert Stakes
Bint El Noor - unraced
Master of Design - 9 starts for 4 wins at Seymour, Ballarat, Moonee Valley and Belmont, 3 minor placings, now racing in Perth
Mount Olympus - 5 starts for 1 win at Newcastle, 1 second, now gelded
Time Thief - 7 starts for 2 wins, one at MV, one in the Zeditave Stakes at Caulfield, 4 minor placings including 2nd in the Caulfield Guineas, 2nd in the Guineas Prelude, 2nd in the Danehill Stakes, 3rd in the Australia Stakes, sent to Dubai for Godolphin but did not race, now retired to stud
Libertarian - 21 starts for 3 wins at Kembla Grange, Warwick Farm and Ipswich, 6 minor placings, now gelded and racing out of the Gold Coast
El Cairo - 20 starts for 1 win at Hawkesbury, 4 minor placings, now gelded
Seventh Reason - 13 starts for 2 wins at Kembla and Canterbury, 3 minor placings, trialled at Albury two weeks ago so may be based down there now?
Sun Ruler - 12 starts for 2 wins at Avondale and Te Rapa, 4 minor placings
Movin' Out - 8 starts for 1 win at Newcastle, 2 minor placings
Estee - 23 starts for 3 wins at Sandown, Caulfield and in the Adelaide Guineas at Morphettville, 5 placings including the Australasian Oaks and the Wakeful Stakes
L'heritier - 6 starts for 1 placing, now racing in Macau
Killy - unraced
Metallurgical - 11 starts for 1 win at Eagle Farm, 4 placings, now gelded
Shoot Through - 12 starts for 1 win at Doomben, 1 placing, now gelded
Leicester Square - 9 starts for 3 wins at Scone and Muswellbrook (x2), 1 placing, now gelded
Royal Battalion - unraced

Very, very interesting indeed...
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Thanks Tony, stupid topic IMO. You can't expect to get a horse that can run with every purchase. Racing would not exist. If you can spend $2m then you are not hard up.
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Gee Andy, the mind boggles, goes to show so many of these horses are grossly overpriced
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Just goes to show you can't buy - Heart and Talent.
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Nodoubt Deja.

5 starts 1 win 1 second 1 third.
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