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Embarrassing really, more than likely all well bred no wonder he wins so many group races , I honestly feel sorry for the battling trainer over there.
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It is disappointing.

The rest tend to concentrate on handicappers and short course horses or National Hunt.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lord Hybrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Aug 2019 at 7:20pm
It astonishes me that large Irish stables like Dermot Weld, Jim Bolger & Willie Mullins wouldn’t have at least 1 horse suitable to run in this race.

Anyway it would be nice to see Capri get back to the winners circle again.
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Marmelo won the G2 Prix Gergorlay tonight (3000m).
It's always good when a WA horse does well in the Eastern States or abroad.
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Originally posted by Jamal Jamal wrote:

Marmelo won the G2 Prix Gergorlay tonight (3000m).


More importantly Coronet (Dubawi - Approach) won't ridden by Franco Dettori the G1 Prix Jean Romanet and the GI Prix Morny for 2yos was won by Earthlight (Shamardal - Winters Moon) another precosious Godolphin youngster winning his 4th straight.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jamal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Aug 2019 at 1:51am
Marmelo has now run in three Prix Kergorlay's for a win in 2017, runner-up in 2018 and another win in 2019. The Prix Kergorlay has been a good guide to the Melbourne Cup in recent years:

Americain (2010) and Protectionist (2014) won this race and then went on to win the Melbourne Cup. Dunaden (2011) finished 9th and went on to win the Melbourne Cup whilst Red Cadeaux finished 5th (2011) and ran 3rd behind Dunaden in the Cup. Marmelo ran 2nd in 2018 and went on to run 2nd in the Cup.

The Prix Kergorlay is a 3000m race run under set weights with penalties conditions
It's always good when a WA horse does well in the Eastern States or abroad.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brudder_A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Aug 2019 at 3:44am
Jamal: Maybe you're posting would be better suited in the Melbourne Cup thread rather than here since you give more information in that focus from that point rather than an "European racing" POV, although I don't deny that it is graded race but compared to the other two G1 races that were on the card at Deauville its a bit weak...
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Ryan Moore rode a blinder on Japan (5/1) to beat Crystal Ocean (11/10f) by a head today in the G1 Juddmonte International. Probably the best race this year in Britain.
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Geez, the Baden winner pissed in... 14L, eased up over the last 100m.

Racing Post rated him 128, which puts him in the same postcode as Enable, but he'd need to back it up if he's to enter the frame in a month's time.
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Friday's G2 Doncaster Cup see the 3rd placegetter of the 2017 Melbourne Cup and sometime hurdler Max Dynamite (16/1) take on winner of his last ten runs, Stradivarius (1/2on).
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World's highest rated horse Crystal Ocean has been retired due to a leg injury.
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Just a lazy ten feature staying races in a row for Stradivarius - the latest being the Doncaster Cup which was on Friday 13th of September.

🏆 2018 G2 Yorkshire Cup (2787m)
🏆 2018 G1 Ascot Gold Cup (4014m)
🏆 2018 G1 Goodwood Cup (3219m)
🏆 2018 G2 Lonsdale Cup (3270m)
🏆 2018 G2 Long Distance Cup (3209m)
🏆 2019 G2 Yorkshire Cup (2787m)
🏆 2019 G1 Ascot Gold Cup (4014m)
🏆 2019 G1 Goodwood Cup (3219m)
🏆 2019 G2 Lonsdale Cup (3270m)
🏆 2019 G2 Doncaster Cup (3600m)
It's always good when a WA horse does well in the Eastern States or abroad.
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Great horse but like Winx and Enable they are getting less and less in numbers trying to beat him.  Yesterday he beat only 4 horses.  Another G2 winner and two LR winners.  So maybe our class isn't too bad also.

But looking for a G2 with at least older horses today in Australia I'm left with the Theo Marks with a field after scratchings of 10.  There are three G1 winners and another G1 placegetter.  Every horse except for Baller has either a stakes win or stakes place to its name.  More than often multiple stakes places.  So the statement that class is in the English races and not in ours is ridiculous.  

When a good horse runs and wins time and time again.  The fields do get smaller.  When our top horse tomorrow is a dual G1 placegetter because the three G1 winners in the field are mares you do have to feel sorry for Zousain.  But just because it is a quality handicap doesn't mean that the class of the field is less than a WFA G2 race might get.  Plenty of SW and WFA running today including the G1 down in Melbourne and nothing wrong with those fields either.
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Originally posted by Grey Affair Grey Affair wrote:

Pinatubo extremely impressive winning the Gp2 Vintage Stakes & might well be the best two year old in England. Favourite for the 2020 Two Thousand Guineas.



Pinatubo just won the Gp1 National Stakes at the Curragh by a big margin. I am now thinking he is the best two year old I have seen over since Frankel.

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What happened to Houtzen in the G1 sprint (1000m) at Curragh?
It's always good when a WA horse does well in the Eastern States or abroad.
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The most impressive runner today at The Curragh was the win in the G1 National Stakes over 7 furlongs by the undefeated 2YO Pinatubo (1/3on) trained by C. Appleby.

Hope he shows up in the Breeders' Cup Turf at Santa Anita.
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Originally posted by Grey Affair Grey Affair wrote:


Pinatubo just won the Gp1 National Stakes at the Curragh by a big margin....

Sorry to repeat but the margin was NINE lengths...

5 for 5 now!
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Originally posted by kavg kavg wrote:

Grey Affair-agree re Pinatubo.

Djebel-have you had a look at his breeding? He has classic horse written all over him and should win a few group 1's unless there are better ones hiding somewhere!


If someone can put up his pedigree it would be appreciated.
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Pinatubo -  (Shamardal  - Lava Flow)

BLUE BLUE & BLUE (Godolphin)

Shamardal   Champion Two Year Old Colt in England, 2004. Stood in OZ for a while.

Lava Flow  Lightly raced for 6 starts, Bred at Darley. At 3: 1st Prix de la Seine (Fr-L,3yoF,11fT,Lon)


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