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Originally posted by ThreeBears ThreeBears wrote:


Cheers. I assumed incorrectly that Ryan Moore rode him.


Ryan opted to ride in the Kentucky Derby instead of going to Newmarket.
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Well that was a massive mistake. Did they find his mount at Churchill Downs yet or is it still buried in the mud?
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Betting tonight has the Guineas winner in a one horse race to take the second leg of the Triple Crown. Probably no hope to stay the trip of the third leg, not that they'd even attempt it. He has to stay the 2400m tonight first which is a bit of a doubt on the dam side. Grand dam Sumora ( Danehill ) only got 1000m and mum Maybe ( Galileo ) stayed little more than 1400m. Will class alone get Saxon Warrior home or maybe a stable mate like Delano Roosevelt?
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Originally posted by ThreeBears ThreeBears wrote:

Betting tonight has the Guineas winner in a one horse race to take the second leg of the Triple Crown. Probably no hope to stay the trip of the third leg, not that they'd even attempt it. He has to stay the 2400m tonight first which is a bit of a doubt on the dam side. Grand dam Sumora ( Danehill ) only got 1000m and mum Maybe ( Galileo ) stayed little more than 1400m. Will class alone get Saxon Warrior home or maybe a stable mate like Delano Roosevelt?


Roaring Lion has been backed into 6/1. Lets see...
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Godolphin's Masar finally get their Derby, Dee Ex Bee and Roaring Lion 3rd


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And down goes the favourite with Godolphin landing their first Epsom Derby for Charlie Appleby with Masar.

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Originally posted by ThreeBears ThreeBears wrote:

And down goes the favourite with Godolphin landing their first Epsom Derby for Charlie Appleby with Masar.



Jockey William Buick also won his first Derby - 16/1
Saxon Warrior blocked and could not get out. Tuff from barriee one
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Just watched the replay and no excuse for the favourite really.  Winner raced outside him and ran away from him. Saxon Warrior couldn't even match the finish from the third horse who came from behind him.
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I wonder if any damage was done at the start ?


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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

I wonder if any damage was done at the start ?


Saxon warrior seemed to stumble coming out of the stalls.....not sure how much difference it made.

Roaring Lion did not seem comfortable coming round Tattenham corner....but that is the nature of the Derby.
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Originally posted by Morston Morston wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

I wonder if any damage was done at the start ?


Saxon warrior seemed to stumble coming out of the stalls.....not sure how much difference it made.

Roaring Lion did not seem comfortable coming round Tattenham corner....but that is the nature of the Derby.


I thought Roaring Lion would hold on for 2nd but he seemed to flatten out just a bit in the end.
Good run.

Masar, had travelled a bit. Was in the US for the Breeder's Cup Juvenile Turf and was 6th to Mendelssohn. Ran poorly on the dirt in Dubai in March but seemed to get much better when he dumped Roaring Lion as the odds on favourite in the G3 Craven Stakes at Newmarket. His 2000 Guineas was probably a throughout as the 5/2fav as 3rd.

In hindsight 16/1 for him was really quite backable at least if you backed him in the 2000 Guineas there was no reason not have something at those odds.  Especially if you backed Godolphin horses.
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Kingman had his first winner tonight with the very impressive Calyx scoring at Newmarket. Mum ran second to Moonlight Cloud in a multiple black type winning short career.
Could be one to watch out for at Ascot. John Gosden trains it.
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Originally posted by ThreeBears ThreeBears wrote:

Kingman had his first winner tonight with the very impressive Calyx scoring at Newmarket. Mum ran second to Moonlight Cloud in a multiple black type winning short career.
Could be one to watch out for at Ascot. John Gosden trains it.

Took a while for Kingman to break through but boy oh boy what a break through. 




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Think it was Kingman's third starter.  

Interestingly the Oz-bred shuttler Kuroshio sits 2nd on the British First season sires list with 4 winners from 10 starters.
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Took a while for Kingman to break through but boy oh boy what a break through.
 
 
Yes no surprise really as Kingman didn't have his first start until end of June over 1400m.
 
I watched a Kuroshio win a few weeks ago. Unlike Kingman's I'd have expected them to go early or not at all. The latter stallion should have a lot more runners in the second half of the season as more UK 2yo maidens are then run at 1400m and a mile.
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Think it was Kingman's third starter.
The other two were both placed and ran good races over 1200m. Both should be winning soon.
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Super interesting runner tonight at the Curragh in the shape of a full brother to American Pharaoh named St Patrick's Day. Two runs last year for Bob Baffert and now with the O'Brien team. Ran second at first start to a horse that then was beaten less than a length in the Gr1 Del Mar Futurity. At his second start beat the subsequent fourth behind Justify in the Kentucky Derby.  
 
Withdrawn twice already this month so no certain starter. In race four tonight 12-25am Melbourne time.
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Back at the tail and ridden early. Got back on the bridle in the straight and looked to be coming to take the race before fading slightly in the last 100m to run third. Was laying about a bit and didn't look comfortable on a fast turf surface.
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G1 Irish Derby was won by the Lloyd William's owned Latrobe in a brothers O'Brien salute at 14/1.
Rostropovich battled well for second and Saxon Warrior finished well for third.


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Thanks Brudder, 2min-31+sec quite reasonable for such an undulating track over one and a half miles, watched Winning Post a few days ago they had the whole family there , great little interview with such a close knit family, Donnacha the son who rode that winner is going to break a few hearts, he's a bit of a looker not unlike his mum,
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A powerful sustained run by Roaring Lion in the G1 Coral Eclipse Stakes at Sandown provided another 3YO the spotlight when he edged out Saxon Warrior to win by a neck. Derby Winner Masar was scratched unfortunately.

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Big win for that horse.  The horse in the white nose roll seemed to stumble badly and dropped out to last ?  Hope he was OK ??
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PS  Thanks for the links you post Brudder.
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https://www.racingpost.com/news/arc-challenge-very-tempting-for-tsui-star-sea-of-class/339815

Very interesting filly by Sea The Stars wins Irish Oaks on the weekend. The dam side of her pedigree very strong with the mare having previously produced numerous Italian Oaks winners. 
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Poet's Word confirmed his win at Royal Ascot and today won the G1 King George VI And Queen Elizabeth Stakes wearing down stablemate and favourite Crystal Ocean in a strong performance.

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Glorious Goodwood on the Cards.

G1 Goodwood Cup Stakes - 2 miles
Stradivarius  (4/5on) continues to win these long distance of 2 miles in GB and connections should seriously start thinking of planning to come Down Under and strut his stuff.


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It would be a complete waste of time IMO given the weight he'd receive and performances of similar types previously in the MC. 
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58 kgs should not scare him off.

He probably should not get that weight.



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Don't know if he'll come or not.

However he's won the equivalent of about Aus$1.65mthus far and would immediately earn twice that with success in the Cup.
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A very interesting maiden - race one at the Curragh tonight in just under an hour. 



1 - Barbados = Full brother to Maybe dam of Saxon Warrior
3 - Blenheim Palace = Full brother to Churchill
17 - Sydney Opera House = Half brother to Rekindling



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