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The conservative ruling part in GB is so totally bereft of credibility that it's understood to be asking ScoMo for advice. Sick
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Timetable for the day

On the Today programme Sir Graham Brady said that Theresa Maywould address the backbench 1922 Committee at 5pm tonight.

The no confidence vote will then be held between 6pm and 8pm, with the result announced soon afterwards.

So here is the timetable for the day.

12pm: Theresa May faces Jeremy Corbyn at PMQs.

2pm: May chairs cabinet

5pm: May addresses the 1922 Committee.

6pm: The no confidence ballot opens,

8pm: The ballot closes. The result is announced soon afterwards.

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May says if she is replaced new leader would have to delay Brexit

Theresa May says she is going to contest the confidence vote “with everthing I’ve got”.

She says she has been a member of the party for 40 years, and has served it in various posts, including as PM.

She has done so because she wants a better future for the country.

And her priority now is delivering Brexit.

She says she has a passionate belief that a better future is available. And that is now within the country’s grasp.

She met EU leaders yesterday. She was due to go to Dub

She says having a new leader now would put “our country’s future at risk”.

She says a new leader would not have time time reopen the negotiations, and so parliament would be able to take over the process.

And she says that a new leader would have to delay or revoke article 50.

  • May says if she is replaced a new leader would have to delay Brexit.

She says the only people who would benefit would be Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell.

She says the Conservatives are a modern, pragmatic party.

She refers to the agenda she set out in her “burning injustices” speech when she became PM. She intends to finish the job, she says.

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May survives 200 -117.
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I really can't see what all the fuss is about. No-deal Brexit, the UK can trade with the EU the way every other non EU country does under WTO rules. Lot of scaremongering going on I suspect.
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All the arrangements they currently enjoy with European nations (many, varied and complex (especially with regards to financial markets)) would disappear overnight. The scary part is no one really knows what will happen, after all this time. Can’t happen now enyway, it’s May’s deal or remain.

Recklessly they put a vote for a concept, not a plan. They got chaos. Cameron needs to take his share of blame for all this.
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It's complicated, but Europe and May have basically agreed on terms including 39 billion pound divorce settlement visa issues, most regulatory stuff. The sticking points are at home around Ireland mostly. It is a 3 point plan where the third is a concern because of the soft or hard border issue and the transition period that. May has made open ended with a date of 20XX instead of 2020. It raises concerns of the 2 Irelands becoming united over time and possibly leaving Britain as a single unit. More issues but Ireland is the main sticking point.
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