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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Geez stayer, don't keep us in suspense. Not for the first time I'm left wondering..what do you want to say?

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Oh that again..gotcha
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Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Lol, i was going to ask the same question...if socialists are indoctrinating the ed system from start to finish...why havent we got a population (minus the aged) of socialists?...voting for parties closest to socialism, henceforth the libs never get a look in.

ive seen the answers thus far...nothing definitive.

jury out??

Because they're not, is the simple answer.
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Lol, i was going to ask the same question...if socialists are indoctrinating the ed system from start to finish...why havent we got a population (minus the aged) of socialists?...voting for parties closest to socialism, henceforth the libs never get a look in.

ive seen the answers thus far...nothing definitive.

jury out??

Huh? In Oz, we just look after ourselves. We live on an island.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Lol, i was going to ask the same question...if socialists are indoctrinating the ed system from start to finish...why havent we got a population (minus the aged) of socialists?...voting for parties closest to socialism, henceforth the libs never get a look in.

ive seen the answers thus far...nothing definitive.

jury out??


Because they're not, is the simple answer.

But they are, and stuff.
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Lol, i was going to ask the same question...if socialists are indoctrinating the ed system from start to finish...why havent we got a population (minus the aged) of socialists?...voting for parties closest to socialism, henceforth the libs never get a look in.

ive seen the answers thus far...nothing definitive.

jury out??

Huh? In Oz, we just look after ourselves. We live on an island.

Look at the Margaret Court thread.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Lol, i was going to ask the same question...if socialists are indoctrinating the ed system from start to finish...why havent we got a population (minus the aged) of socialists?...voting for parties closest to socialism, henceforth the libs never get a look in.

ive seen the answers thus far...nothing definitive.

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Because they're not, is the simple answer.


ok, i guess i'l see what happens with my daughters ed as i said before. i have an open mind to it at this stage anyway, just hope those scamanda kids experience arent repeated.
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UK election - what a mess.
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It's funny. When people get the result they want from elections we hear from the media and individuals about the good sense of the electorate. When they don't the toys tend to come out of the cot, and we get a very different interpretation. 

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Yep. True dat.
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Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Do you reeeeally think that's why young people voted for Corbyn?


Are you saying the leftist education system is producing political left leaning young voters stayer? i read a short piece in the guardian today where the writer asks 'why schools dont teach kids about politics' .

the young dont generally vote (her point was because they feel uninformed in the whole political scene and dont bother) . but it was interesting...3 hrs later im reading a bunch of stuff thanking young voters for turning up and voting...it was them that made the difference.

It was weird all round. lots of different parts are moving these days in politics.

Is that a serious question?? The schools and unis are churning out young socialists, because socialists dominate the education (even tertiary) system. Socialism is all about the state over individuals, and "education" is always one of the main ways of making that vision happen. Nothing new in that - that's how socialism works since day dot.


it was a serious question, i was suspicious of that (socialist ed) especially as ive read similar 'complaints' elsewhere. i look at what daughter learns, esp with projects, and i can see the bent.

I just wasnt too sure. either way...i dont think its anything radical. not yet anyway. does it ramp up as the years progress - eg from primary school to yr 12?


Ummm, in the 90s I had 3 boys in high school in Qld. The things I remember were when they were all educated on how to fill in a dole form, were told they should ignore their parents on most topics (even though the education department blamed the parents for the lack of education of children) and to not just blindly believe they were heterosexual, in fact they were told to explore their sexuality.

Good luck.


I went to high school in Queensland in the 1990s and call bullgelati on every aspect of your post. If any of that actually happened, that particular school failed, not the system as a whole.
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Then why did they flee the conservatives today?


I think you're all guessing.

IMO it was the terror attacks of late which were highlighted by the media along with their calls and questions on May's ability to protect them. 

The left leaning left media decide most elections around the civilised world but gets the boot in countries where they go over the top like the US and Australia. Ask Pauline and Donald.

No mate, the terror attacks would have zero effect on the young indoctrinated voters. Plus if anyone voted on that, it would be for May, not Corbyn.



You are so arrogant and condescending towards the youth. You must be a dreadful teacher of kids in 2017. You sound like someone that should have retire years ago.
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Also this vote is proof people, especially youth, are sick and tired of being told what to do and how to vote by old people.

Thanks for that, 40-something-year-old Joni Mitchell. Deep stuff.
You'd think the same youth might feel the same way about the Brussels elite, the ivory tower academics etc... but that's like getting too heavy, man. (Plus they haven't learned about how the world works yet.)


Who is Joni Mitchell?
How does the world work?
Why did so many young people enrol to vote for this election?
Do you hate kids, full stop, or just that so many see the world differently to you?
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And I am happy to be 42. Haven't yet worked out how to get younger, but my age doesn't mean I have to change my beliefs that I have had since I was at uni.
Also, so many old people making rash and short sighted decisions on many issues that don't affect them, or they will be long dead when consequences arise, that I find it inspiring to see the youth take more of a stand.
I don't begin to think I am still a youth, just happy to stand beside them, rather than old grumps.
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Trying to respond to 3 posts at once, sub, but basically I care about people and what's right and wrong. I have no problem with the youth rebelling against the establishment - that's what they do,and what I did myself in my youth - but I don't like seeing them being taken for a ride and unwittingly doing their bit to bring on the Brave New World that used to be a dystopian vision of a brainwashed society. My catholic worldview has a lot to do with my opinions, yes, but it's also just a big facepalm that these poor young people are so badly educated (no history, no literacy, no thinking skills) that they'll support an idiotic extremist like Corbyn in such numbers just because katy perry and lily allen tell them it's a matter of life or death, for some reason. Ironically, it's the same way the baby boomers thought, and I think you'll agree that didn't work well. These empowered youth of today will be hated by the empowered youth of tomorrow. At least the baby boomers were about love and freedom - the current equivalent are about ego and anarchy. (And money.)
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Calling Corbyn an idiotic extremist makes it difficult to take anything you say seriously.
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

And I am happy to be 42. Haven't yet worked out how to get younger, but my age doesn't mean I have to change my beliefs that I have had since I was at uni.
Also, so many old people making rash and short sighted decisions on many issues that don't affect them, or they will be long dead when consequences arise, that I find it inspiring to see the youth take more of a stand.
I don't begin to think I am still a youth, just happy to stand beside them, rather than old grumps.


you are an idiot and an ideological social misfit.

remember when you trashed a whole country...??(america) . Now you are trashing the elderly.

most people find older folk enlightening and great people to learn from. i certainly do, i love the company of the elderly and always have.

what a principled, caring FAKE you are.
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Trying to respond to 3 posts at once, sub, but basically I care about people and what's right and wrong. I have no problem with the youth rebelling against the establishment - that's what they do,and what I did myself in my youth - but I don't like seeing them being taken for a ride and unwittingly doing their bit to bring on the Brave New World that used to be a dystopian vision of a brainwashed society. My catholic worldview has a lot to do with my opinions, yes, but it's also just a big facepalm that these poor young people are so badly educated (no history, no literacy, no thinking skills) that they'll support an idiotic extremist like Corbyn in such numbers just because katy perry and lily allen tell them it's a matter of life or death, for some reason. Ironically, it's the same way the baby boomers thought, and I think you'll agree that didn't work well. These empowered youth of today will be hated by the empowered youth of tomorrow. At least the baby boomers were about love and freedom - the current equivalent are about ego and anarchy. (And money.)


corbyn isnt idiotic and an extremist? please.

everything has moved so far right, economically- austerity and neoliberalism, that corbyns policies are deemed radical by the people who feel threatened by him. in reality, they arent radical at all.

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I enjoy the company of old people too, but would not agree with the vast majority of them politically.
I love America too, been there 3 times. Keep going with your own unique interpretation of things. Something you have perfected.
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

I enjoy the company of old people too, but would not agree with the vast majority of them politically.
I love America too, been there 3 times. Keep going with your own unique interpretation of things. Something you have perfected.

Most of the oldies I have known are flat out racists and the older they are the more racist they are, or were, in the case of the departed.
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Yep, same Tlaz. My Nanna the worst!!
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The claim: Turnout surged among young voters - some are saying to 72% - which boosted Labour's performance in the election.

Reality Check verdict: We do not yet have any reliable figures for turnout by different age groups. While it is true that seats with the highest proportions of 18 to 24-year-olds had above average swings to Labour, there are plenty of seats with big swings to Labour and low proportions of young people.

Source = BBC not Subastral/Leftard Dreamtime/Twittertwits
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And the article continues with -
 
The only five constituencies where the turnout increased by more than 10 percentage points were Hackney North, Hackney South and Ilford South in south-east England, and South Down and Foyle in Northern Ireland, all of which have pretty average populations between 18 and 24.
 
 
But by all means keep beating "the Youths did it" drum.
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Yep, same Tlaz. My Nanna the worst!!

My Nanna was extremely racist about black people  but she liked Asians. If I had married an Afro American or Aboriginal she would have disowned me but if I had married a Japanese she would have payed for the wedding.

Her nephew worked in PNG for a few years and to stir the old girls up- his mother was the same- he sent word before his return that he had married a native women- he even sent a photo.Big smile


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Yep, same Tlaz. My Nanna the worst!!


you just said you enjoy the company of the elderly. now you say most of your elderly contacts are racists - so no way in the world you would enjoy anything about those 'disgusting humans'. once someone doesnt agree with any of your positions in society, you write them off as terrible humans.

not foolin anyone. fool.
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Yep, same Tlaz. My Nanna the worst!!


you just said you enjoy the company of the elderly. now you say most of your elderly contacts are racists - so no way in the world you would enjoy anything about those 'disgusting humans'. once someone doesnt agree with any of your positions in society, you write them off as terrible humans.

not foolin anyone. fool.


Yes, I hated my own Nanna. My god, you are a weirdo.
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It's only gay marriage rights that I have said I would have a problem respecting someone that was against it, but again, keep taking what you want from what I say and interpreting it in your own special way....
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You still distorting what people say cabo?

Dont you know you automatically lose when you do that?
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Calling Corbyn an idiotic extremist makes it difficult to take anything you say seriously.

Well that's what most of his own party members call him, so...
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You still distorting what people say cabo?

Dont you know you automatically lose when you do that?


is that like losing the social debate when you pick sides and pick enemies and still be deluded enough to think you are standing on the highest moral ground??

good. you know all about looozers.

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