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Posted: 28 May 2018 at 2:48pm

ENTICING STAR (AUS)

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Testa Rossa Bay 1996	Perugino Bay or brown 1991	Danzig Bay 1977	Northern Dancer Bay 1961	Nearctic Natalma	1954 1957	14-c 2-d
		Danzig Bay 1977	Pas de Nom Bay or brown 1968	Admiral's Voyage Petitioner	1959 1952	4-n 7-a
		Fairy Bridge Bay 1975	Bold Reason Bay 1968	Hail to Reason Lalun	1958 1952	4-n 19-b
		Fairy Bridge Bay 1975	Special Bay 1969	Forli Thong	1963 1964	3-b 5-h
	Bo Dapper Bay 1985	Sir Dapper Bay 1980	Vain Chestnut 1966	Wilkes Elated	1952 1957	13-c A10
		Sir Dapper Bay 1980	Sikri Bay 1967	Golden Plume Miss Sikri	1960 1963	19-b C25
		Bodega Bay 1973	Without Fear Bay 1967	Baldric Never Too Late	1961 1957	13-c 4-c
		Bodega Bay 1973	Salon Brown 1964	Fortino Soiree	1959 1953	4-r 1-w
Favourite Star Brown 2007	More Than Ready Bay or brown 1997	Southern Halo Bay 1983	Halo Bay or brown 1969	Hail to Reason Cosmah	1958 1953	4-n 2-d
		Southern Halo Bay 1983	Northern Sea Bay 1974	Northern Dancer Sea Saga	1961 1968	2-d 16-g
		Woodman's Girl Bay 1990	Woodman Chestnut 1983	Mr Prospector Playmate	1970 1975	13-c 1-s
		Woodman's Girl Bay 1990	Becky Be Good Bay 1981	Naskra Good Landing	1967 1965	3-e 1-s
	Lady Ashford Bay 1999	Royal Academy Bay 1987	Nijinsky Bay 1967	Northern Dancer Flaming Page	1961 1959	2-d 8-f
		Royal Academy Bay 1987	Crimson Saint Chestnut 1969	Crimson Satan Bolero Rose	1959 1958	26> 8-c
		Springfire Bay 1991	Snippets Bay 1984	Lunchtime Easy Date	1970 1977	7-f 20-a
		Springfire Bay 1991	Bravery Brown 1984	Zephyr Zip Front Stage	1976 1971	24> 1-s

Ancestor duplications:

Northern Dancer

4m x 5f,5m

Hail to Reason

5m x 5m

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Posted: 28 May 2018 at 2:52pm

Anybody see this win on the weekend in Perth ?

She showed a genuine top class turn of foot.

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Posted: 28 May 2018 at 3:34pm

She's very very good. Summer carnival then east for her.

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Posted: 02 Jun 2018 at 7:38pm

Going around again.

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Posted: 02 Jun 2018 at 8:33pm

Ripper of a win again

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Posted: 03 Jun 2018 at 12:03pm

Gee this is some mare. Can't wait to see her tested over here.

Sunline...simply supreme

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Posted: 03 Jun 2018 at 3:17pm

Before yesterday Bob Peters had said that he was only looking at mares races in the Perth carnival.

After the race yesterday he said he was now thinking of the major races, then east in Autumn if all went well.

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Posted: 07 Jun 2018 at 7:43pm

Very exciting prospect. WA have had a few 1/2 decent ones, she might be a little better than most.

The $1.45 and $1.25 prices I thought were a bit over the top but she's been doing super. Lets down like a good thing. Hope she stays sound.

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Posted: 18 Jun 2018 at 7:41pm

I see people were excited by her 7th win from 7th start on the weekend, She is a perfect example of the terrible handicapping or lack of handicapping across the board in Australia.

How she has been allowed to win her first 6 races and not get rated above 90 is just unbelievable, To be rated just 80 is criminal.

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Posted: 18 Jun 2018 at 9:09pm

Read her form card djebel, she has been placed to perfection , hasn't been thrown from a maiden win into the deep end of a group race like a lot of o/s horses that are then onsold to oz trainers hoping to resurrect their flagging race form , keep yourself in the best company and the horses in the worst, the owner knows what he's doing, it's been going on for a 100 years , smart trainers do it , Anthony has trouble reading the tea leaves.

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Posted: 18 Jun 2018 at 9:17pm

I do not blame the owner or trainer for one single second, No, It is the stupid system that allows them to take this advantage and does not handicap the filly properly.

Since her maiden she won 2 conditions races and 4 handicaps, The longest price she has been is $1.85.

This is very much an indication that the handicapper has been far too lenient on her.

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Posted: 18 Jun 2018 at 9:27pm

But the " handicaps" as you called them are restricted to a certain class of horse, so not handicaps but Set weights, he's using the system well imo.

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Posted: 18 Jun 2018 at 9:36pm

Carioca wrote:

But the " handicaps" as you called them are restricted to a certain class of horse, so not handicaps but Set weights, he's using the system well imo.

They are handicaps and she has gotten away with blue murder in them. They have not been at all competivie because the handicapper is far too lenient.

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Posted: 18 Jun 2018 at 10:04pm

Yes the word Handicap used is right , but what I should have stated was she raced in races that she was eligible for without stepping above her actual rating , as she was a 70 rater can she be allotted more weight ( on potential) or carry only what a 70 bm should?

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Posted: 18 Jun 2018 at 10:28pm

Carioca wrote:

Yes the word Handicap used is right , but what I should have stated was she raced in races that she was eligible for without stepping above her actual rating , as she was a 70 rater can she be allotted more weight ( on potential) or carry only what a 70 bm should?

In my opinion she should have had well above a rating of 70 or as on Saturday 80.

When she won her maiden she was entitled to rate 64 rather than 58, It basically all started from there.

At her next start, she'd was entitled to go to about 66+

Basically. without going into detail her career starts ratings would have risen -

92 which is listed level

Now of course if her original rating is more severe the rest of campaigns are slightly different. They are required to push her into her rightful grade, helping WA racing be more competitive.

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Posted: 19 Jun 2018 at 2:33pm

I heard Felgate interview the Wiz on RSN a week or so back. He nominated this horse as the best thing he's got going right now, basically suggesting they'd need more than a pry bar to get him off.

I then heard Peters interviewed by same a few days ago and a couple things became apparent...

1. Michael is most certainly the +1 to Jacqui.

2. Whether it's Wiz rubbing off on Peters, or Peters rubbing off on Wiz, neither could give a rats tossbag about racing in the Eastern states.... and who could blame them.

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