Join up at Sportsbet - Click here


Forum Home Forum Home > Horse Racing - Public Forums > Racing Forum
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - El Segundo
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


Click here for the Thoroughbred Village Home Page - Australia's Premier Online Horse Racing Community. For village news, follow @TBVillage on Twitter. Also follow @Villagebet on Twitter for racing tips. Sign up for the village newsletter by clicking here: Newsletter Signup. To contact the Mayor by email: Click Here.

El Segundo

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
Ormond View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 06 Jun 2008
Location: Barwon Heads
Status: Offline
Points: 20010
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ormond Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: El Segundo
    Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 7:00pm
Big El pulled up with "A little heat" in his legs after he was unplaced in the Dato Tan Chin Nam....He will be swum and iced for the next week.
Back to Top
Sponsored Links
Click here to grab your bonuses when you join up with Sportsbet.


Back to Top
andynr123 View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar

Joined: 13 May 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Status: Offline
Points: 24096
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote andynr123 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 7:02pm
That's okay, I'd be worried if it was any worse.
Back to Top
Fine View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 20 Feb 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 4066
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 7:05pm
I'd say he'd always pull up with a little heat in his old legs, especially on such a firm track.
Back to Top
Harry T View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 13 Mar 2007
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 2184
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Harry T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 10:41pm
Yes, but strange his record on dead tracks is very poor compared to his 'good' track record. Likes the soft but just can't run on it!
Strive to be happy
Back to Top
carter View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 13 Jun 2008
Status: Offline
Points: 1055
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 10:50pm
id say just about every horse prefers a dead track when it comes to their wellbeing, doesn't mean they'll be any good in it
Back to Top
Harry T View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 13 Mar 2007
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 2184
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Harry T Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 2009 at 12:08am
If it is a good track on the day he can win by rating his equal best 68.5, but Whobe is already there and likely a couple of others as well so El Segundo must be double figures odds at this stage. If it is dead to slow he can't win the race.
Strive to be happy
Back to Top
Requiem View Drop Down
Weanling
Weanling


Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 86
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Requiem Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 2009 at 12:14am
El Segundo is El Segonedo in my view. Best form is behind him now.
Back to Top
Wortel View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Location: Gold Coast
Status: Offline
Points: 17013
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wortel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 2009 at 7:38am
Sometimes getting an old horse back to full fitness can be a struggle.

I'm not writing him off yet.
Back to Top
carter View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 13 Jun 2008
Status: Offline
Points: 1055
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 2009 at 3:12pm
you can see on saturday he really struggled off the slow pace. WBGY took off and El took forever to wind up but he was flying at the end. genuine pace in a cox plate is perfect for him so cant write him off
Back to Top
Ormond View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 06 Jun 2008
Location: Barwon Heads
Status: Offline
Points: 20010
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ormond Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 2009 at 7:54pm
Michelle Payne to replace Luke Nolen until he serves his time Wink
Back to Top
Ormond View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 06 Jun 2008
Location: Barwon Heads
Status: Offline
Points: 20010
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ormond Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 2009 at 11:23pm
Trainer Colin Little has given Michelle Payne a birthday present with the ride on El Segundo at Flemington on Saturday.

Photo by Racing and Sports


Payne celebrates her birthday today and was given the news that she has the ride on the 2007 Cox Plate winner in this weekend's Group 1 Turnbull Stakes.

The classy but injury plagued galloper won the 2007 Cox Plate following a disappointing run in the Turnbull – a run that still has Little scratching his head.

El Segundo  has never performed at the 2000m at Flemington so Little is not sure what to expect this weekend in what is his final lead-up to this year's Cox Plate.

“Michelle has ridden El Segundo before, in fact she won his maiden,” Little told Sport 927.

“She has been helping me out riding work here so it wasn't a hard decision. And it's her birthday today.

“I think the horse is going well and he's sound but he doesn't race well at the 2000m at Flemington. So it's hard to know what to expect.

“We've got one run left then three weeks to the Cox Plate so hopefully he's 100 per cent then.”

Payne replaces the suspended Luke Nolen, outed for causing interference last Wednesday.

Three of the last four Cox Plate winners – Maldivian, El Segundo and Makybe Diva – all raced in the Turnbull but only the latter was able to win both.


Happy Birthday Michelle  Clap Clap  Clap
Back to Top
Wortel View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Location: Gold Coast
Status: Offline
Points: 17013
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wortel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 2009 at 11:51pm
El Segundo is one of those horses using this as a Cox warmup.

Must get going on the bend and will be gone by the line. He outsprinted Haradasun and eased back knowing he had eliminated him as a Cox threat.

Big Mal did the same style run in the Turnbull last year fighting with Pompeii Ruler.

Easy Cox winners 2 years running.
Back to Top
Ormond View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 06 Jun 2008
Location: Barwon Heads
Status: Offline
Points: 20010
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ormond Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2009 at 12:28am
One El Of A Birthday Present
Michelle PayneJockey Michelle Payne might not get a better birthday present for the rest of her life.

With regular rider Luke Nolen suspended on Monday morning for 20 meetings after causing interference which led to Noel Callow falling from his mount at Sandown Hillside last Wednesday, Payne got the nod this morning to ride El Segundo in this Saturday's $500,000 Group 1 Turnbull Stakes (2000m) at Flemington.

"We had a lot of jockeys on the phone by Saturday night and Sunday morning with the likelihood of Luke (Nolen) being suspended and we felt we had to make a decision last night or today and it was an easy one," Little told Sport 927.

"Michelle has ridden El Segundo and she actually won his maiden on him.

"She is always helping me out riding work, so it was not really a terribly hard decision to make, and it's her birthday.

"She wanted a birthday present," Little quipped.

That maiden victory at Cranbourne, in March 2005, is the only time Payne has ridden El Segundo in race conditions.

She has trialled the champion galloper at Cranbourne on two other occasions, the latest of those in January, earlier this year.

El Segundo is yet to win a race since the 2007 Cox Plate (2040m), however put in an encouraging performance at Moonee Valley in the Feehan Stakes (1600m) last start.

In other news regarding this Saturday's Turnbull Stakes, Shane Scriven will ride Scenic Shot while Red Ruler will be ridden by Danny Nikolic once again.

Meanwhile Anthony Cummings will be looking for another Group 1 victory this weekend as Red Lord will be partnered by Glen Boss.

Picture - Fiona Tomlin

© Cyberhorse 2009 Carl Di Iorio Published 29/09/09

blb.gif (108 bytes) trx.gif (807 bytes) brb.gif (108 bytes)

 

Back to Top
Ormond View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 06 Jun 2008
Location: Barwon Heads
Status: Offline
Points: 20010
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ormond Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Oct 2009 at 5:44pm
Will go very close in Turnbull Thumbs Up
Back to Top
Charliehorse View Drop Down
Champion
Champion
Avatar

Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Melbourne
Status: Offline
Points: 1182
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Charliehorse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Oct 2009 at 8:32pm
As expected... 

only a winning chance on the day of the 2040m.
Back to Top
SkyDancer View Drop Down
Champion
Champion


Joined: 02 Aug 2014
Location: My house
Status: Offline
Points: 5648
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SkyDancer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jun 2017 at 4:43pm
The Big Sur has a long way to go to be mentioned in the same breath as his Group 1-winning sibling but El Segundo’s little brother hinted at a bright future with a tough maiden win at Sale on Sunday.

The Colin Little-trained colt showed good acceleration at the end of the 1600m contest to score a one-length win at his fifth racetrack outing, continuing a strong family tradition for Kiwi broodmare Palos Verdes.

El Segundo broke his maiden at his second start at Cranbourne in 2005, the first win in a 35-start career that netted four Group 1 victories including the 2007 Cox Plate (2040m).

While he went short of hailing The Big Sur as a future star of the turf, jockey Daniel Stackhouse has no doubts that the son of Redwood will furnish into a quality galloper.

“He’s still got a lot to learn and when he went inside the leaders, he was a bit timid because he’s such a big horse,” Stackhouse said.

“But once he did, he went through his gears pretty good and it was a nice win.

“He’s going the right way about things and he should keep improving.”
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.059 seconds.