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Okay so now I see where we are going?
 
So this new casino will be for the well healed and the overseas targets, and the locals and riff raff will be seen in the existing casino.
 
Right well if that is how it works, I agree then, if it does not impact on locals who can not afford it I am fine with it.
 
If the cost of staying and playing there includes day tours to other sydney and surrounding attractions and lifts our tourism attracting capabilities and business opportunities I am all for it.
 
The question however was does Sydney need a second casino, and I still say no it does not, but happy to be proven wrong! 
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Does Sydney Need Another Casino ?


As much as AYERS ROCK needs a Bottle shop.
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Or the Cross needing another knock shop !
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Or Australia needing anymore Corporate Bookmakers !
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Originally posted by VOYAGER VOYAGER wrote:

Okay so now I see where we are going?
 
So this new casino will be for the well healed and the overseas targets, and the locals and riff raff will be seen in the existing casino.
 
Right well if that is how it works, I agree then, if it does not impact on locals who can not afford it I am fine with it.
 
If the cost of staying and playing there includes day tours to other sydney and surrounding attractions and lifts our tourism attracting capabilities and business opportunities I am all for it.
 
The question however was does Sydney need a second casino, and I still say no it does not, but happy to be proven wrong! 
This is the bit I don't get.
They say it will be for the biggest high rollers only,AND it will boost tourism.
How can a handful of huge punters boost tourism.
The two things are nutually exclusive.
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That's where you're wrong. High rollers bring their families as well. While they lose a million on the baccarat tables the wife is shopping up a storm at high end retail outlets while the nanny is taking the kids on a tour of the cities main attractions.
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Tom Waterhouse will be opening his own casino soon and will be jamming it on every TV station in the world
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Packer casino gets go-ahead to proceed to next stage
July 4, 2013 - 3:45PM

A second casino is set to open in Sydney from 2019 after James Packer’s plans for a $1.5 billion hotel and gambling resort at Barangaroo received NSW government backing.

NSW Premier Barry O’Farrell said the proposal for Crown's hotel and gambling resort at Barangaroo could proceed to "stage three" of the assessment, but it was not yet a licence to build.


 
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/packer-casino-gets-goahead-to-proceed-to-next-stage-20130704-2pdrv.html#ixzz2Y3WzbPvT
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& whilst there will be no pokies initially....I still bet pounds to peanuts when the final agreements are drawn up average Joe will be able to get easy access to a "huge" general floor casino.....& a few years later Packer will use under performance to also get the one armed demons ban over turned....will turn out to be a classic "softly, softly" project !
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yep....can here it ringing in my ears already.......VIP patronage not hitting forecasts.....increased international casino competition(yeah, well der),slump in the Asian economy, no pokie policy impacting on customer draw.....gee....unless we can also get a slice of the local mug money we might not be able to pay all that dosh we promised...ok then....open slather....there you go !
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How does this casino benefit NSW or Australia in general..?

Please don't say tourism, these high rollers are not tourists in the true sense of the word ff$
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It just benefits James Packer, and probably his bank accounts in Switzerland.
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It benefits the tax-payers of NSW in that it will generate hundreds of millions in revenue per year that would otherwise be going somewhere else in the world due to the exclusive nature of the patronage
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It will benefit the NSW Government
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It will benefit the NSW Government


only if they have ties with packers swiss bank accounts.
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No one has said any other casinos operate without a general gaming floor. If have thought that was quite clear. You asked how they would ensure it is a private gaming facility and I told you. It would operate like every other private gaming room in the country. You can't just walk in but if you turn up with the required amount of cash (different amount depending on whether you're local, interstate or overseas resident) you will be allowed in.
No need to get Narky Exceed......simply asked how many other Casino's operated in Australia as a private boys club only without a general gaming floor......i was not aware of any but was not sure ! Sheesh !
This topic may need revisiting after 60 Minutes tonight. What chance the new Barangaroo Casino want require modifications to their “high roller” only license ?
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I read somewhere that Asian whales have got sick of losing big in Aussie casinos. And that's 75% of the business model.
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yep....can here it ringing in my ears already.......VIP patronage not hitting forecasts.....increased international casino competition(yeah, well der),slump in the Asian economy, no pokie policy impacting on customer draw.....gee....unless we can also get a slice of the local mug money we might not be able to pay all that dosh we promised...ok then....open slather....there you go !
Gee oneone - your prediction 6 years looks like it could be right. Time will tell of course.
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Does Sydney Need Another Casino ?


Does anyone need another penis or clitoris?
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Actually I would rather have 2 dicks than 2 casinos.
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Yes - if I were Packer I would have lost interest in the Casino game as well. When Crowns shonky practices were exposed in China the game was up for Barangaroo. As you said Tlazz - the entire business model was based around the big Whale Chinese gamblers ( most of who were shonks themselves ). All of a sudden the nickel & dime Aussies have more appeal 😂
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<h1>Does Sydney Need Another Casino ?</h1>

Does anyone need another penis or clitoris?


I would like a clitoris if there are any to spare.
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Wouldn’t you love to know what “really” went on when Packer got the go ahead without anyone else putting in a tender. Unbelievable actually. Those that approved it based on Packers crap should be held to account
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To think that whole magnificent Barangaroo development was built on the back of a dodgy new casino proposal
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True oneone, they are usually pretty strict about who they allow to hold licences Remember when they knocked back this crook for dodgy numbers and mafia connections?


Trump Bid to Operate Sydney Casino Was Killed by Alleged ‘Mafia Connections’
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I asked for that
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

No one has said any other casinos operate without a general gaming floor. If have thought that was quite clear. You asked how they would ensure it is a private gaming facility and I told you. It would operate like every other private gaming room in the country. You can't just walk in but if you turn up with the required amount of cash (different amount depending on whether you're local, interstate or overseas resident) you will be allowed in.
No need to get Narky Exceed......simply asked how many other Casino's operated in Australia as a private boys club only without a general gaming floor......i was not aware of any but was not sure ! Sheesh !
This topic may need revisiting after 60 Minutes tonight. What chance the new Barangaroo Casino want require modifications to their “high roller” only license ?




Was an interesting story but really nothing surprising revealed. Anyone who has spent any amount of time in the Mahogany room at crown would be well aware of the types of characters you see hanging around. Have seen many eye operated there. But Is anyone really naive enough to think this doesn’t go on everywhere? It’s simply what happens in casinos.
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Casinos are boring. If I was a billionaire I could think of far more exciting things to do.
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I'm sure this new casino will get about 100 visitors a year if it's only a millionaires club, the big gamblers from Asia head to crown
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Does Sydney need another casino ?
NO.
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