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Days since Mark Kavanagh won a Group 1

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Friday- Court of Appeal- RV will seek leave to appeal- if granted, it will be heard that day apparently- written submissions would already have been given.
I believe the trainers could possibly counter appeal aspects of the judgement if they too can prove a poin of law..
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1314.
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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

1314.

His gear must have been truly magic. 
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Nah, he's blaming 'several' for decimating his business, his words following his last win....wherever that was.....caught the interview and had to chuckle.....DOB is still training winners though, maybe his vitamin bottles were different to Kav's, will we ever learn what really went down? a best seller that, break all records.
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Atlantic City. Battlecamp and Borde de Gain are the only horses older than 3 in amongst that current stable list.






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He said recently that he got rid of all his older horses.
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Not sure who really cares
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Kav is a nice guy.
Not someone I’d want to train my horse though. Just my two cents.
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they're all nice guys.
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Not sure if this true or not, but he seems to have lost a lot of his main owners.

And with guys like McEvoy, Kennewell and of course DK, becoming stronger (especially McEvoy with the youngsters), he has been left in their wake.

The lifeblood of stables are owners, and if you get offside with one or two of your wealthier or high number producing owners, then you are dead in the water.

It is a bit like Anthony Cummings, He goes through periods where he is going great guns, and that is because his main supply of owners are breeders, who can go through periods of low quality yearlings, but when they get a good crop, they are hot.
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The owner of Shocking is back.






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I hope he's driving an Uber like honest Bob asap.

Nice guys though
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Hilarious that Battlecamp has returned to his stable. Absolute cat. It should have stayed put in SA with Hickmott. Much better placed over there.
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Originally posted by crooked_gambler crooked_gambler wrote:

Kav is a nice guy.
Not someone I’d want to train my horse though. Just my two cents.

A nice guy! He is an a***hole.
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Very smug little man . Should be thankful for the chances he got
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Was just watching Whobegotyou winning the Guineas, and Michael Rodd interviewed. He said the horse made a half mile run. Wonder why? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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Exactly like Shamus Award imo in the Caulfield Guineas... then a few mths after the Cox Plate he couldn't get out of his own shadow.

Running through walls one minute....gone the next... Textbook!!!


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Never overlook Undoubtedly's Blue Diamond win. Lethargic in the Prelude. Absolutely charged home in the Blue Diamond to win running away. It was an electrifying burst.
He never fired at stud. Had no spark at all.
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Originally posted by marscay marscay wrote:

Exactly like Shamus Award imo in the Caulfield Guineas... then a few mths after the Cox Plate he couldn't get out of his own shadow.

Running through walls one minute....gone the next... Textbook!!!




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Originally posted by Batman Batman wrote:

Was just watching Whobegotyou winning the Guineas, and Michael Rodd interviewed. He said the horse made a half mile run. Wonder why? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


He was a very good horse in an average race?
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by marscay marscay wrote:

Exactly like Shamus Award imo in the Caulfield Guineas... then a few mths after the Cox Plate he couldn't get out of his own shadow.

Running through walls one minute....gone the next... Textbook!!!




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Failed in one run, first appearance clockwise on a wet track where he did everything wrong. From memory he and Puccini carved each other up in front. Predictably went to stud straight after. Not the first horse and won’t be the last to put in a shocker like that.
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Ok Judge what is your analysis of Undoubtedly's performances?
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I do not know? But those good mates he had? They were world beaters!! Can remember one especially on cox plate day, went around the world and still won like it jus joined in at top of straight?? Have any of them left anything on the ground? They were bred ok as well
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