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    Posted: 14 Mar 2015 at 4:43pm
Subby got David Hayes over the line eventually, lets see if we can get Kav back in the G1 winners circle!

Last one 12/10/2013, Atlantic Jewel in the Caulfield Stakes.
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Ha ha, brilliant. Add in a 3 year disqualification for Kav and we might have a new winner!!!
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So, does he have any horses at all that could cinch him one this autumn?
Surely not Chivalry...
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I have a feeling this thread could go on forever...
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The only difference between Kav and Hayes is that Hayes was expanding and going to a new frontier with Euroa in the last few years, whereas in the same period it seems that Kav was downsizing or getting ready to retire-perhaps not by choice!
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1676? And counting.
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Oh, poor Kav....LOL
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Oh, poor Kav....LOL

I mentioned on another thread, karma.
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Oh, poor Kav....LOL


What did David Hayes get up to? Kav will surpass that if he hasn't already!
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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

1676? And counting.


Didn't a 'cobalt' horse win the Qld Derby?
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Originally posted by skippy123 skippy123 wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

1676? And counting.


Didn't a 'cobalt' horse win the Qld Derby?
Too good Skippy LOL

Magicool then went this miraculous run: 13/15, 12/14, 11/12, 14/15, 17/18, 15/16, 7/7, 7/8, 11/12, last four under Waller.  Seems to suggest something.
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Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

Originally posted by skippy123 skippy123 wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

1676? And counting.


Didn't a 'cobalt' horse win the Qld Derby?

Too good Skippy LOL

Magicool then went this miraculous run: 13/15, 12/14, 11/12, 14/15, 17/18, 15/16, 7/7, 7/8, 11/12, last four under Waller.  Seems to suggest something.


3BM, selectively using stats again with your sample size of one horse!

I can't but wonder if those of you on here rubbishing CAV where subjected to the same victimisation how you would hold up. Despite being cleared by a Federal Court judge he continues to be dragged through the mud and subjected to crap like this thread, how the hell is supposed to flourish in such an environment.

If you don't have the stock, you won't win G1 races. So despite Cav winning at VCAT, RV get what they want, dragging things on despite cost to participants they claim their victim. And many here celebrate and enjoy the bully boy tactics.



Only issue is, he may yet become one of the wealthiest trainers in the country and have the last laugh when all is said and done....
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I assume you mean wealthy by suing Racing Victoria? The only way he will earn a dime. His biggest backer left him when evidence was coming out. Doubt they will be back.
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It's hard to feel sorry for him, not a nice person.
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I'm interested to know how many know the people they comment on on here personally (not just Kav but others). Curiosity provoked by tillyras saying he's not a nice person..

We all (including myself) have many opinions on many things, but unless we know the person or have intimate knowledge about the inner workings of what goes on, all we have to base these assumptions on is what say the media portrays and conjecture..
And al though I come from a family with many journo's, I don't trust mainstream media much these days.
In my job, reputations precede many but in actuality they are generally nothing like what is touted..
I'm guilty of it myself at times but are we basing our opinions on media type clickbait or reality (which doesn't include indulging 'he said, she said' rumours)??

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My parents stables were just up the road from Kavanaghs when in Adelaide. They were strange.
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Originally posted by Uluru Uluru wrote:

Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

 

Too good Skippy LOL

Magicool then went this miraculous run: 13/15, 12/14, 11/12, 14/15, 17/18, 15/16, 7/7, 7/8, 11/12, last four under Waller.  Seems to suggest something.


3BM, selectively using stats again with your sample size of one horse!

I can't but wonder if those of you on here rubbishing CAV where subjected to the same victimisation how you would hold up. Despite being cleared by a Federal Court judge he continues to be dragged through the mud and subjected to crap like this thread, how the hell is supposed to flourish in such an environment.

If you don't have the stock, you won't win G1 races. So despite Cav winning at VCAT, RV get what they want, dragging things on despite cost to participants they claim their victim. And many here celebrate and enjoy the bully boy tactics.



Only issue is, he may yet become one of the wealthiest trainers in the country and have the last laugh when all is said and done....

I can understand how you'd automatically jump to that conclusion Uluru given the situation in which you were involved and which you continually defend despite the myriad evidence, which we don't need to regurgitate here simply to allow you to vent further. Suffice to say it's a pity some involved aren't as candid or as honest as Sam Kav eventually was.

To set you straight yet again Mr 180-degrees I intentionally left people to make up their own minds about Magicool because while  there is no clear evidence the form is suggestive enough. There are other examples which you'd know about IF you actually bothered to read more. Google Midsummer Sun some time. Some interesting coincidences in the SK case eh, not the least of which would be the  $1000 bottles of "supplement" supplied by Brennan.
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Originally posted by skippy123 skippy123 wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

1676? And counting.


Didn't a 'cobalt' horse win the Qld Derby?


Forgot about that one!   

So that makes it 729 days?
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Originally posted by Uluru Uluru wrote:

I can't but wonder if those of you on here rubbishing CAV where subjected to the same victimisation how you would hold up. Despite being cleared by a Federal Court judge he continues to be dragged through the mud and subjected to crap like this thread, how the hell is supposed to flourish in such an environment.
But you and your boy thought it was alright to slander Peter Moody.

You can't even sell this crap to the tourists.
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Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

Originally posted by Uluru Uluru wrote:

Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

 

Too good Skippy LOL

Magicool then went this miraculous run: 13/15, 12/14, 11/12, 14/15, 17/18, 15/16, 7/7, 7/8, 11/12, last four under Waller.  Seems to suggest something.


3BM, selectively using stats again with your sample size of one horse!

I can't but wonder if those of you on here rubbishing CAV where subjected to the same victimisation how you would hold up. Despite being cleared by a Federal Court judge he continues to be dragged through the mud and subjected to crap like this thread, how the hell is supposed to flourish in such an environment.

If you don't have the stock, you won't win G1 races. So despite Cav winning at VCAT, RV get what they want, dragging things on despite cost to participants they claim their victim. And many here celebrate and enjoy the bully boy tactics.



Only issue is, he may yet become one of the wealthiest trainers in the country and have the last laugh when all is said and done....


I can understand how you'd automatically jump to that conclusion Uluru given the situation in which you were involved and which you continually defend despite the myriad evidence, which we don't need to regurgitate here simply to allow you to vent further. Suffice to say it's a pity some involved aren't as candid or as honest as Sam Kav eventually was.

To set you straight yet again Mr 180-degrees I intentionally left people to make up their own minds about Magicool because while  there is no clear evidence the form is suggestive enough. There are other examples which you'd know about IF you actually bothered to read more. Google Midsummer Sun some time. Some interesting coincidences in the SK case eh, not the least of which would be the  $1000 bottles of "supplement" supplied by Brennan.


I could quote you many many many horses that lose form and never again reach their pinnacle rating again, in fact this is the case with almost all horses.

Anyway, rather spend my Sunday with people who have a more positive slant on life than arguing with the likes of you and your guilty despite what the judge says attitude.
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No kidding. You'll be hard pressed finding any with such a huge drop off I'd suggest but as you say there are other possibilities. Read up on Midsummer Sun did you? From some of your comments on the other thread I'd suggest you should spend your Sunday reading up on cobalt and horses. 
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Originally posted by Uluru Uluru wrote:

Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

Originally posted by skippy123 skippy123 wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

1676? And counting.


Didn't a 'cobalt' horse win the Qld Derby?

Too good Skippy LOL

Magicool then went this miraculous run: 13/15, 12/14, 11/12, 14/15, 17/18, 15/16, 7/7, 7/8, 11/12, last four under Waller.  Seems to suggest something.


3BM, selectively using stats again with your sample size of one horse!

I can't but wonder if those of you on here rubbishing CAV where subjected to the same victimisation how you would hold up. Despite being cleared by a Federal Court judge he continues to be dragged through the mud and subjected to crap like this thread, how the hell is supposed to flourish in such an environment.

If you don't have the stock, you won't win G1 races. So despite Cav winning at VCAT, RV get what they want, dragging things on despite cost to participants they claim their victim. And many here celebrate and enjoy the bully boy tactics.



Only issue is, he may yet become one of the wealthiest trainers in the country and have the last laugh when all is said and done....
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Originally posted by mc41 mc41 wrote:

Originally posted by Uluru Uluru wrote:

Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

Originally posted by skippy123 skippy123 wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

1676? And counting.


Didn't a 'cobalt' horse win the Qld Derby?

Too good Skippy LOL

Magicool then went this miraculous run: 13/15, 12/14, 11/12, 14/15, 17/18, 15/16, 7/7, 7/8, 11/12, last four under Waller.  Seems to suggest something.


3BM, selectively using stats again with your sample size of one horse!

I can't but wonder if those of you on here rubbishing CAV where subjected to the same victimisation how you would hold up. Despite being cleared by a Federal Court judge he continues to be dragged through the mud and subjected to crap like this thread, how the hell is supposed to flourish in such an environment.

If you don't have the stock, you won't win G1 races. So despite Cav winning at VCAT, RV get what they want, dragging things on despite cost to participants they claim their victim. And many here celebrate and enjoy the bully boy tactics.



Only issue is, he may yet become one of the wealthiest trainers in the country and have the last laugh when all is said and done....

seems like you want the issue dead then dive right back in 
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Originally posted by Sneck Sneck wrote:

Originally posted by Uluru Uluru wrote:

I can't but wonder if those of you on here rubbishing CAV where subjected to the same victimisation how you would hold up. Despite being cleared by a Federal Court judge he continues to be dragged through the mud and subjected to crap like this thread, how the hell is supposed to flourish in such an environment.
But you and your boy thought it was alright to slander Peter Moody.

You can't even sell this crap to the tourists.

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Originally posted by skippy123 skippy123 wrote:

I'm interested to know how many know the people they comment on on here personally (not just Kav but others). Curiosity provoked by tillyras saying he's not a nice person..

We all (including myself) have many opinions on many things, but unless we know the person or have intimate knowledge about the inner workings of what goes on, all we have to base these assumptions on is what say the media portrays and conjecture..
And al though I come from a family with many journo's, I don't trust mainstream media much these days.
In my job, reputations precede many but in actuality they are generally nothing like what is touted..
I'm guilty of it myself at times but are we basing our opinions on media type clickbait or reality (which doesn't include indulging 'he said, she said' rumours)??

"You never really know a man until you understand things from his point of view, until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.”
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Is Kav going to train in Outer Mongolia, or Inner Mongolia, or is that just a rumour?
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Across the 4 G1 Derbies in this country, I'd imagine there are more horses who don't go on with it than do. As for the Qld edition, here are the winners since that good horse Fremason won in 2000:

  • 2016 - Eagle Way[4]
  • 2015 - Magicool[5]
  • 2014 - Sonntag[6]
  • 2013 - Hawkspur[7]
  • 2012 - Brambles[8]
  • 2011 - Shootoff[9]
  • 2010 - Dariana[10]
  • 2009 - Court Ruler[11]
  • 2008 - Riva San[12]
  • 2007 - Empires Choice[13]
  • 2006 - Ice Chariot[14]
  • 2005 - Lachlan River[15]
  • 2004 - Toulouse Lautrec[16]
  • 2003 - Half Hennessy[17]
  • 2002 - County Tyrone[18]
  • 2001 - De Gaulle Lane[19]
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Originally posted by Bonjour Bonjour wrote:

Is Kav going to train in Outer Mongolia, or Inner Mongolia, or is that just a rumour?


Uranus more like it
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As I can't find the the correct thread may I ask, when is the final appeal date for the cobalt saga? Was it to be heard in it's entirety in one day in June? Thanks.
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