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Silentz brings up win number 400 nationally this season.
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I reckon he could get to 500.
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

She's Archies daughter is the best horse Darren Weir will ever train.

Just saw this old post by Djebel..looks a bit foolish in hindsight.WinkWink
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Originally posted by Baghdad Bob Baghdad Bob wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

She's Archies daughter is the best horse Darren Weir will ever train.

Just saw this old post by Djebel..looks a bit foolish in hindsight.WinkWink

One would have thought a trainer with Weirs reputation would have got a stayer out of New Approach She's Archie daughter but he raced her into the ground in unsuitable races as we have all come to expect.

Let's hope he does not kiss up Fifty Stars.
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Tall Ship looks set to make his long awaited return to the races.
Accepted for a trial at Tatura on Tuesday morning.
He’s being trained out of the Baringhup property.
Last raced in the Naturalism when between by Jameka. 17/09/16
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He always says they need galloping, trials & races from the farm as the heavy sand takes the speed out of their legs.
Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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3 winners from his last 50 odd runners.

2 winners from 36 runners over the weekend.
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

3 winners from his last 50 odd runners.

2 winners from 36 runners over the weekend.




He did have 6 runners in one race, multiple in many others. those stats don’t mean much when you take that into account
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Darren Weir has taken over the training of the former Lloyd Williams owned Doumaran.
At his final two runs for Macedon Lodge, he refused to leave the barriers at Caulfield early in 2016.
He had a barrier trial at Cranbourne (still with Lloyd) in Nov 216 and stayed in the gates again.


At the Burrumbeet jumpouts in early Aug 2018 after a lengthy spell and change of ownership, he refused to leave the barriers yet again.
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Put the best 50 horses in the Weir yard into the 10th ranked European or Japanese yard and they would all improve 10 lengths.
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How do u work that one out??
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Absolute cr@p.

Just imo.
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Okay then, who are the top 50 horses?
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Suspect few of his client base are disappointed.

2018/19:

Darren Weir435351349300316$23,667,520.0014.80%




2017-18:

Darren Weir231176185157167$16,210,460.0014.80%
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Off the top of my head the best 5 would be....

Fifty Stars
Hawkshot
Peaceful State
Mount Kilcoy
Lucky For All
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But how do you work out they will improve?? You are drawing a very f...... long bow
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Not really.

Facts and performance or lack of is there for all to see.

People just need to open their eyes.
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Reads like a non story? I don't get how he's horses improve in uk? What r u basing the assumption on?
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Because djebel “ THINKS” he knows everything
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djebel knows he knows everythink. 
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Originally posted by Straight arrow Straight arrow wrote:

Reads like a non story? I don't get how he's horses improve in uk? What r u basing the assumption on?

I am saying his training methods, The training methods or more to the point the racing campaigns of our top horses and our potential stayers is deplorable. It is not just a Darren Weirism, it is across the board.

Winx is a freak who is the exception to the rule.

Weir has all the fire power, He has the best horses in the country and the most promising horses in the country.

I have absolutely no doubt most of his quirky horses would be better placed in stables where they could get better individual attention.
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The best and most promising horses in the country are in his stable? your a group1 dreamer.
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Or perhaps his methods produce horses who reach their full potential?
Huge numbers go thru' the place, yet few city grade horses reproduce or improve when moved on, tho' the opposite can be said re. horses from other stables.
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The horses are wrecked when they leave.

There is no way you could say they reach their potential. Even his best performed horse Humidor, It is impossible to say he has reached his full potential, He is so inconsistent and erratic.  
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Humidor came to him as a tried horse though.
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Humidor kept running into one of Australia's best ever!! Silly example
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Originally posted by Straight arrow Straight arrow wrote:

Humidor kept running into one of Australia's best ever!! Silly example

   Could have been anything had he raced truly .    For all That you are well in front if you backed him every start at SP.
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Originally posted by Straight arrow Straight arrow wrote:

Humidor kept running into one of Australia's best ever!! Silly example

If I am not mistaken he only met Winx once in five starts last campaign ?
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