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    Posted: 07 Jun 2018 at 6:50pm
Terrence Crawford
Will he live up to the hype that he’s as good As Sugar Ray Leonard or will he be exposed by an Aussie just like Zab Judah was?

Sugar Ray, the greatest in my mind
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Terrence Crawford
Will he live up to the hype that he’s as good As Sugar Ray Leonard or will he be exposed by an Aussie just like Zab Judah was?

Sugar Ray, the greatest in my mind


Besides his promoter, who compares Crawford to Sugar Ray?
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Mayweather has been in raptures about him as well
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Mayweather has been in raptures about him as well


He had more than 20 bouts before anyone heard of him .
Horn is the best he has met and has the size to put up a better show than the betting suggests.
   They have stuffed around for over a month.    
i hope the Local lad from Qld, can do it again.
       
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Before anyone takes silly prices ....    REMEMBER Crawford hasn't been meeting top class opposition.
   His last fight he won the World super Lightweight from a very ordinary fighter ( Julius Indongo )who allowed Crawford to counter punch for 3 rounds and was KO'd in the 3rd round in a pathetic display.

Indingo has fought once since and was KO'd in 2 rounds by Regis Prograis , who is scheduled to fight for the vacant Super Lightweight title in July . . Another pathetic display..
   HORN is super value at over $6 on Betfair.

BTW .    Horn or Crawford are NO Sugar Ray's.
       
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Exactly right Macca , both not in the same league as Suger Ray, and as for Zan Judah who could ever forget the right hand Kostya landed on his beak that day and left him spinning around the ring like a drunk imitating a whirling dervish, took a week to stop laughing, Judah bit of a show pony.
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Exactly right Macca , both not in the same league as Suger Ray, and as for Zan Judah who could ever forget the right hand Kostya landed on his beak that day and left him spinning around the ring like a drunk imitating a whirling dervish, took a week to stop laughing, Judah bit of a show pony.


The form guide also shows that Crawfords previous fight to Indongo against Felix Diaz, didn't stand up well either as Diaz lost his next bout in April 2018 .
   Crawford is Hyped unjustifiably and is known for fighting 2nd raters throughout his career.
He may well win,   but he is terrible unders in betting.
       
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Exactly right Macca , both not in the same league as Suger Ray, and as for Zan Judah who could ever forget the right hand Kostya landed on his beak that day and left him spinning around the ring like a drunk imitating a whirling dervish, took a week to stop laughing, Judah bit of a show pony.

That should read Zab Judah. my bad.
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Thanks PT, brilliant.
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Poor old Zab was carrying on like a BLM protester after the bout! Wacko

I feel for him, technically you can only be KO'ed if you have a brain to concuss ...
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Good one PT.

BTW.   Crawfords last 5 opponents =   Indongo .. KO's in 2 at his next fight.        > Diaz Beaten next bout .       > Victor Postal , done nil since , is fighting in Glasgow.        > Henry lundig , hasn't fought since Crawford but lost his 2 bouts prior to meeting Crawford ..      > Dierry Jean , Fought a draw after his Crawford bout.

Anyone heard of any of them ....

       
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Whatever happened to Kostya “I hev power in each hand vich can knock out elephant” Tszyu. I heard he moved back to Russia, anyone know?

Crawford may be no Sugar Ray, but Horne ain’t no Kostya Tszyu.
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He is living in Moscow, while his family live in Sydney. Friends of Vlad get looked after.

His son Tim, a light middleweight has had 9 pro fights for 9 wins and recently challenged Anthony Mundine
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Whatever happened to Kostya “I hev power in each hand vich can knock out elephant” Tszyu. I heard he moved back to Russia, anyone know?

Crawford may be no Sugar Ray, but Horne ain’t no Kostya Tszyu.


I'm talking value in betting ...    Horn has beaten better fighters than Crawford has met and the higher weight scale may find out how good Crawford copes with some real opposition.
By the way . Horn is undefeated and unlike Kosta Tszyu , hasn't been Knocked out or beaten either.

NO Manny Paccio's in Crawfords record.
       
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Not interested in odds. I can’t imagine what sort I’d delirium I’d have to be suffering to actually bet on boxing.

Manny was a decade past his best when he met Horne. I’ll be barracking for the Aussie boy, but this looks a mismatch to me.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Not interested in odds. I can’t imagine what sort I’d delirium I’d have to be suffering to actually bet on boxing.

Manny was a decade past his best when he met Horne. I’ll be barracking for the Aussie boy, but this looks a mismatch to me.
I see - not interested in odds - & yet you spend half your life betting into 20 horse race fields. Yeah ok Judge that makes perfect sense. 🤔
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Judge .... Your a Master of Contradiction.
Manny was past his best when he won back the World Title in the fight , not long before meeting Horn.

PRICES ...   Very important in any Gamble ... How much a year does your Gambling Interests cost you?.
       
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Actually I don’t bet that much these days. Carnival times, maybe one or two bets a week. As dodgy as horse racing can be, it’s a paragon of integrity compared to the boxing caper.

Keep swinging oneone, you’ll land one eventually
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Yes macca, miles past his best by then.
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Yes Macca - Hd / Hd sports betting currently trades at less than 10% yield ( much less if you throw in promotional kick backs). Judge gets better value betting into race markets that typically give 14 to 15% yield. Delirium - you bet !
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Doesn’t interest me oneone, simple as that. Don’t bet on footy or cricket either. Not really interested.

Add to boxing dodgy promoters, corrupt judges- I’ll leave you blokes to it.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Doesn’t interest me oneone, simple as that. Don’t bet on footy or cricket either. Not really interested.

Add to boxing dodgy promoters, corrupt judges- I’ll leave you blokes to it.


C'mon Judge , These "bounce of the balls" even themselves out over time.

   Get yourself interested in the pricing side of any gamble .
( read the Stradbroke thread ) and have a talk to E & E ( who I believe may be very good at Sports betting & obliging ) " if you don't upset him ".
       
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“Bounce of the balls”

Actually you could argue Horn is unders. If this thing goes to a decision, he’s got no chance... probably.

Nah, I love watching good fighters but in a game that devoid of integrity they can go around without my money.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

“Bounce of the balls”

Actually you could argue Horn is unders. If this thing goes to a decision, he’s got no chance... probably.

Nah, I love watching good fighters but in a game that devoid of integrity they can go around without my money.


I gave you the form guide on it ....    Doesn't read like Crawford has been playing "Origin".      Horne is a BIG Welterweight. AND I'm on at $6.4 = VALUE

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Agree with the comments about Crawford’s opposition

Over hyped, I agree
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Agree with the comments about Crawford’s opposition

Over hyped, I agree


That's a first..   Shrunk ITW , You have the honour of being the first to agree with me in about 10 years.

Given his past opponents , He will find Horn a tougher nut to crack.
       
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I can’t imagine what sort I’d delirium I’d have to be suffering
You're delirious already judging by the standard of that comment.
 
6.4 is about right Max given the venue. I guess you'd be looking to trade out early before it gets anywhere near the judges for a result.
 
 
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How much does it cost to get this fight on at home ? 


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