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    Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 11:24am
CONDOR HEROES (AUS)Bay colt 2014 
Not a Single Doubt
Bay 2001		Redoute's Choice
Bay 1996		Danehill
Bay 1986		Danzig
Bay 1977		Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom		1961
1968		2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981		His Majesty
Spring Adieu		1968
1974		4-d
2-d
Shantha's Choice
Bay 1992		Canny Lad
Brown 1987		Bletchingly
Jesmond Lass		1970
1975		7-a
14>
Dancing Show
Bay 1983		Nijinsky
Show Lady		1967
1976		8-f
8-f
Singles Bar
Chestnut 1991		Rory's Jester
Chestnut 1982		Crown Jester
Chestnut 1978		Baguette
Anjudy		1967
1969		6-c
13-e
Rory's Rocket
Grey 1973		Roan Rocket
Cantadora		1961
1964		13-c
1-m
Easy Date
Bay 1977		Grand Chaudiere
Bay 1968		Northern Dancer
Lachine		1961
1960		2-d
19-b
Scampering
Bay 1970		Misty Day
Scamper Away		1958
1966		5-f
20-a
Gosetgo
Brown 2007		More Than Ready
Bay or brown 1997		Southern Halo
Bay 1983		Halo
Bay or brown 1969		Hail to Reason
Cosmah		1958
1953		4-n
2-d
Northern Sea
Bay 1974		Northern Dancer
Sea Saga		1961
1968		2-d
16-g
Woodman's Girl
Bay 1990		Woodman
Chestnut 1983		Mr Prospector
Playmate		1970
1975		13-c
1-s
Becky Be Good
Bay 1981		Naskra
Good Landing		1967
1965		3-e
1-s
Grooves
Brown 1993		Marscay
Chestnut 1979		Biscay
Chestnut 1965		Star Kingdom
Magic Symbol		1946
1956		1-g
2-o
Heart of Market
Bay 1967		To Market
Accroche Coeur		1948
1959		10-a
4-m
Habiton
Brown 1983		Century
Brown 1969		Better Boy
Royal Suite		1951
1960		2-n
20>
Sweet Habit
Chestnut 1976		Habitat
Sweet Life		1966
1970		4-r
1-n
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m,5m x 5f
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He's a rising 4yo.

I really hope they just let him be the fastest horse in Australia.
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Anyone know why this horse has been so disappointing?
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He’s a bleeder
Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes
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I remember this horses first start in the breeders plate at Randwick , just charged and looked to be racing on fear , either that or he has bolted sometime in trackwork and he's got away with it , limited lung capacity just like the horse that beat him Khan who has won only once since over 5furl.
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Bled on 18 August 2018. But I see it was also banned on 7th September 2017. Anyone work out what that was for?
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Didn't race or trial for 11 months after the (possible/probable) September 2017 ban, which was 13 days after he settled 2nd before dropping out to finish 2nd last in a 3yo Group 3.

A bit confusing as he'd presumably have been banned after the recent bleed were it preceded by an earlier one.
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Found this on RNSW site

Please note the following in relation to Rosehill Gardens on Saturday (28th July 2018)

In Race 5, No.5 – CONDOR HEROES: Trainer Gerald Ryan has reported that the colt sustained a fracture to the off foreleg since its last start (Rosehill – 26/8/17). A specialist clearance has been received and the galloper has trialled at Rosehill on 9/7/18 and at Warwick Farm 20/7/18.
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Thanks Xav.  Thumbs Up
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Thanks for that. Much appreciated.

Not sure what to expect from the horse on Saturday. Trialled very well but has a history of trialling well and racing poorly. Been gelded since last poor prep of just two starts. Horse has ability. Or at least he's very fast. Has a G2 placing over 1100m as 2yo. On Sat he's in a very weak 1000m race at the Valley. Could win by 3 or run last.
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He has been gelded.

He was the fastest horse since Vain.

He wins in a canter. 
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Ok will go out on a limb re this pre-post fav: nine times out of ten a fool and his moneywill soon be parted.
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Actually there is reason for some cautious optimism for Saturday if you look closely at his trialling/racing history.

19/11/16 #trial# won by 9 lengths
01/10/16 2nd listed Breeders Plate

31/01/17 #trial# won by 8 lengths
22/03/17 won Warwick Farm maiden
01/04/17 2nd G3 Kindergarten Stakes

01/08/17 #trial# won by 6 lengths
26/08/17 unplaced
07/09/17 diagnosed with bone fracture (one would suspect incurred in recent race)

09/07/18 #trial# won by 4 lengths
28/07/18 2nd Rosehill
18/08/18 bled at Randwick

Changed stables from GA Ryan to DA Hayes

01/02/19 unplaced Moonee Valley
01/03/19 unplaced Moonee Valley

Gelded

15/07/19 #trial# won by 7 lengths

If you look into form in detail, it's not as bad as all that, especially after he trials well. In fact after trialling well (winning by 4 lengths or more) he's won once and finished 2nd twice. His only failure after a good trial was when he likely fractured his leg.

Now caveat on this is I don't know how he was going prior to his two runs for David Hayes. It's possible he easily won a barrier trial or jump out prior to racing. I just have no record of it.

Another positive is the gelding operation. It may help him be more relaxed in his races and be more genuine.
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Who knows.  Only thing I do know is that yours truly won't be taking the current $4 from about barrier 10 at the Valley.
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Hard enough to back a winner when they are fit as well as sound , this horse has a poor history and imo a dud, however after that rather crude but truthfull assessment it will probably win but if your on you will be looking for a brandy at the 100 .
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He looks good on paper.
But would I take the price.... short answer is No.

Good luck to those taking the odds though, fair chance he will win if I steer clear
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Just heard on Get On that since 2016 if you'd backed all horses the run after they had been gelded you would be winning 14% POT. And there have been a lot of horses in that survey.
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But how many of those had fractured a leg AND bled?   
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Who knows.  Only thing I do know is that yours truly won't be taking the current $4 from about barrier 10 at the Valley.

Big drifter, unsurprisingly caught wide.  Probably did enough to be a chance in a midweeker.
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Sold via Inglis Digital for $10,000 to Gangemi Thoroughbreds in WA.
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Get to scorch around Perth from now on.

The state of speed should suit him.
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Originally posted by Foxseal Foxseal wrote:

Sold via Inglis Digital for $10,000 to Gangemi Thoroughbreds in WA.

Foxseal was far too quick for me. LOL
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2 from  2 I see.

Now at least the fastest horse in Perth. 
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Scratched yesterday due to Hoof Abscess
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