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Did climate change happen when the ice age ended ???Confused
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Yep the climate has been changing right throughout history. The oceans have risen and receded . Climate change is just what happens on planet earth.
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Originally posted by Baguette Baguette wrote:

Yep the climate has been changing right throughout history. The oceans have risen and receded . Climate change is just what happens on planet earth.

thats correct Baguette - but tell me why Earth is warming right now when in fact we should be entering another ice age? 

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James Murdoch criticises the bot-driven climate science denying Murdoch coverage of climate change.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/james-murdoch-slams-fox-news-and-news-corp-over-climate-change-denial

It's also of course on the front page of the Daily Murdoch today. Read it.LOL
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Originally posted by marble marble wrote:

Originally posted by Baguette Baguette wrote:

Yep the climate has been changing right throughout history. The oceans have risen and receded . Climate change is just what happens on planet earth.


thats correct Baguette - but tell me why Earth is warming right now when in fact we should be entering another ice age? 

We could well be going into an ice age. The last cooling period, known as the small ice age followed a couple of hundred years of warming. I don’t think any of us will be around to see it though.
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(1) Preventing anthropogenic climate change requires collective, large-scale action.

(2) Collective, large-scale action is a left-wing, socialist agenda.

(3) Therefore anthropogenic climate change doesn’t exist.



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Originally posted by marble marble wrote:

Originally posted by Baguette Baguette wrote:

Yep the climate has been changing right throughout history. The oceans have risen and receded . Climate change is just what happens on planet earth.

thats correct Baguette - but tell me why Earth is warming right now when in fact we should be entering another ice age? 


This will be good ... why should we be entering another ice age my learned friend?Wacko
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

James Murdoch criticises the bot-driven climate science denying Murdoch coverage of climate change.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/james-murdoch-slams-fox-news-and-news-corp-over-climate-change-denial

It's also of course on the front page of the Daily Murdoch today. Read it.LOL

... a spokesperson for the couple exclusively told The Daily Beast

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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

(1) Preventing anthropogenic climate change requires collective, large-scale action.

(2) Collective, large-scale action is a left-wing, socialist agenda.

(3) Therefore anthropogenic climate change doesn’t exist.



https://philosophynow.org/issues/98/Green_Philosophy_by_Roger_Scruton


AGWT most certainly does exist Tlaz!Big smile

The T stands for THEORY ... as yet unproven, and not getting any closer ... lots of lies and alarm being spread, just no proof ...Dead
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Hey Doc did you see Greta's dad has been sprung?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1227896/greta-thunberg-climate-change-activist-Facebook-page-social-media-posts-edited
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Her Dad, the formerly out of work Actor/Producer/Green Activist you mean?

He's never had so much work since St Greta was canonised and the UN Climate Curch can't get enough of her ... so sad that she is being exploited by adults in this way!CryBeer

No shock to learn that she doesn't do any of her own social media posting stayer ... and her Dad and her paid up Indian Climate Alarmist "handler" Mr Prathap are the true authors is no real surprise is it? ... if anyone thought otherwise, they probably think she scripts her own speeches too!Wacko

... but we have seen her close down under the slightest pressure, when her "part is played" and she has to "ad lib" ... she's just like an autistic child when that happens Ouch ... no surprises there.Stern Smile
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by marble marble wrote:

Originally posted by Baguette Baguette wrote:

Yep the climate has been changing right throughout history. The oceans have risen and receded . Climate change is just what happens on planet earth.

thats correct Baguette - but tell me why Earth is warming right now when in fact we should be entering another ice age? 


This will be good ... why should we be entering another ice age my learned friend?Wacko

It's quite interesting Doc, as a rough guide the ice ages last for about 90,000 years and then 10,000 years of a warmer period. the last ice age finished 12,000 years ago
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Little Ice Age

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For the most recent period much colder than present and with significant glaciation, see Last glacial period.
The reconstructed depth of the Little Ice Age varies between different studies (anomalies shown are from the 1950–1980 reference period)

The Little Ice Age (LIA) was a period of cooling that occurred after the Medieval Warm Period.[1] Although it was not a true ice age, the term was introduced into scientific literature by François E. Matthes in 1939.[2] It has been conventionally defined as a period extending from the 16th to the 19th centuries,[3][4][5] but some experts prefer an alternative timespan from about 1300[6] to about 1850.[7][8][9]

The NASA Earth Observatory notes three particularly cold intervals: one beginning about 1650, another about 1770, and the last in 1850, all separated by intervals of slight warming.[5] The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Third Assessment Report considered the timing and areas affected by the Little Ice Age suggested largely independent regional climate changes rather than a globally synchronous increased glaciation. At most, there was modest cooling of the Northern Hemisphere during the period.[10]

Several causes have been proposed: cyclical lows in solar radiation, heightened volcanic activity, changes in the ocean circulation, variations in Earth's orbit and axial tilt (orbital forcing), inherent variability in global climate, and decreases in the human population (for example from the Black Death and the colonization of the Americas).[11]

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DNA evidence proves that early humans survived the last Ice Age


And this is further proved by the fact that neanderthals still regularly contribute to this forum, mainly coming out of their caves at night to make post after post on every conceivable subject that they possess a cro magnon-like understanding of.  Big smile
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Am suddenly reminded of Men At Works' great track "Who could it be now?"WinkBig smile
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You must be getting concerned about all this rain about to hit Second Chance. Wouldn't want all the trucks getting bogged. Predicting flash floods as well. 
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Well I helped fight about 20 fires, some large but most somewhat smaller, over the course of about 12 years.  And was communications officer at half as many again.  How's your total coming along fella?  Big smile

By the way:

BOM warns of flash flooding as rain brings bushfire relief across NSW

By Kevin Nguyen

Rain falling across NSW is offering some relief for fire crews battling blazes, but there are concerns the wet weather could cause landslides, flash flooding and contaminate water.

Key points:

·         The RFS says it's already seen "good falls" on some firegrounds

·         However, there are fears bushfire debris could prevent water from being absorbed into soil

·         The forecast rain is unlikely to replenish dams or break the drought in NSW

Cool, wet conditions ar good news for firefighters who have been battling hundreds of blazes across the state since September.

The Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) predicted between 30 and 80 millimetres of rain would fall in some areas between today and Sunday.

The heavens opened over Sydney this morning and about 20-40mm is set to fall over the next few days.

Meanwhile, the NSW Rural Fire Service (RFS) said there were already "good falls" across some firegrounds.  RFS Inspector Ben Shepherd said he was expecting around 10-15mm to drop on most firegrounds, with the highest falls predicted in the Hunter.

"This won't be enough to extinguish the fires, but will take the sting out of them," he said.  "It's the most positive forecast the RFS has had in months and will give crews a chance to regroup and work on containment lines."

However, BOM forecaster Abrar Shabren said heavy rain could also lead to a significant run-off of ash, soil and other debris which have accumulated in the past months.  "Flash flooding is generally a concern with thunderstorms and ponding of water on roads," Mr Shabren said.

Mr Shabren said bushfire areas, particularly in elevated regions, were also "vulnerable" to landslides and toppling trees during thunderstorms because fires would have weakened the vegetation.

 



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"I'm not willing to put someone's job at risk, a region's future at risk.
I'm not going to put up their electricity prices to do it, I'm not
going to put a tax on them to do it."


And people are reading that as a sign that things are going to get better from CoalMo the marketing con man and his team of dinosaurs.Shocked You have got to be kidding me.



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High falls for the Hunter !  Yipppeeeee.   Bring it on.  None so far but very humid.
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Great news for many.  However it's a double edged sword for others:

Hundreds of SES calls, 15m deep sinkhole opens as storms lash state

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Storms that lashed the state have helped clear smoke from the sky in Melbourne but did little to contain bushfires in Victoria's east and threatened to make conditions more hazardous for firefighters.


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Whats news with the Doomsday Climate Change Cult these days? Havent been checking.
Its not 22 degrees everyday with a gentle breeze, so I guess the Cult is still acting hysterical?




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"Both major parties, over the past couple of decades, played short-term political games with climate change rather than address its magnitude and urgency. We are left in the unimaginable position of still having no climate action plan, no energy policy, no national disaster plan, no waste-management policy, no fuel security strategy, and no transition strategies to achieve a low-carbon society by mid-century."Cry

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"Many still completely misread Scotty from Marketing. He simply doesn’t accept either the magnitude or the urgency of the climate challenge. He is almost totally beholden to the fossil fuel lobby. Several of his senior staff are ex-coal executives; a couple of his key ministers have coal industry links; fossil fuel companies are major donors."


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Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

Whats news with the Doomsday Climate Change Cult these days? Havent been checking.
Its not 22 degrees everyday with a gentle breeze, so I guess the Cult is still acting hysterical?




Its raining everywhere Redemption. Catastrophic apparently - according to some
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holy crap, the climate just changed up here at Coffs
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Originally posted by marble marble wrote:

how about you bore me and tell me what is warming the planet then

How about telling us how you would even know that the temperature had increased 0.9 degrees in 140 years if the Climate Alarmists were not going RRRRREEEEEE!!!! about it - for no good reason - every minute of the day?Confused 

... or do you walk around with a thermometer sticking out of one of your superfluous orifices?


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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

DNA evidence proves that early humans survived the last Ice Age


And this is further proved by the fact that neanderthals still regularly contribute to this forum, mainly coming out of their caves at night to make post after post on every conceivable subject that they possess a cro magnon-like understanding of.  Big smile

That's better SC! ... if you added some colour and a source, and a point, you would gain much more credibility!Big smile
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Great news for many.  However it's a double edged sword for others:

Hundreds of SES calls, 15m deep sinkhole opens as storms lash state

Add to shortlist

By 

Storms that lashed the state have helped clear smoke from the sky in Melbourne but did little to contain bushfires in Victoria's east and threatened to make conditions more hazardous for firefighters.



Here, let me say it for you ... It's all ScoMo's fault!!! RRRREEEEEE!!!!Cry
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

"Both major parties, over the past couple of decades, played short-term political games with climate change rather than address its magnitude and urgency. We are left in the unimaginable position of still having no climate action plan, no energy policy, no national disaster plan, no waste-management policy, no fuel security strategy, and no transition strategies to achieve a low-carbon society by mid-century."Cry

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John Hewson? ... The Climate Scientist!!! ... and I thought he'd bought a Cake Shop!LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

Stop it Tlaz, my side are hurting!

BOM : "No Significant Rain Till APRIL!!!"Cry

For Fark Sake ... if we can't predict the weather within a 4 month window, why would we believe all of the unsubstantiated Climate Alarm based on broken models being hawked by all the Leftards with their Socialist Agenda???

Listen, listen, listen ... I am NOT A DENIER!!!

I am a believer that we are at the beginning of a MASS EXTINCTION EVENT!!!Shocked

Now, I'm not sure what it will be caused by ... warming or cooling is likely ... and I'm not sure how many HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of years we have ... so excuse me whilst I don't panic.Big smile
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