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the climate of the planet has always changed. is constantly changing. if you expect the weather to be the same now as it was 100 years ago then you will struggle to comprehend a lot. 

my issue with climate change has always been that it is based on statistical analysis from scientists that get paid in order to find a connection between the change in the worlds climate and something we do. they are rewarded if they are able to find a story to provide to the papers that says ''we are all going to die'' rather than those scientists that say ''everything is fine''. when ever you look at the major issues that spawn the hollywood movies about the end of the world it is always led by those that make money from it. same with Y2K and the belief in the mid 90's that we need to spend billions on looking for asteroids because jupiter got hit by some gigantic ones. 

and a lot of the data that they use is based on the worse case scenario. their models are based on a percentage of error and they are using that to the extreme case and replicating that through their models to get to the attention grabbing headline. often the percentage of error is a degree and that is the difference between a climate cooling and a climate warming. 

same goes for the UN. the UN is only rewarded if they can find massive problems with the world and i do believe that their attention to climate change is to work in a funding model that will provide them with the money in which for them to grow. that is the nature of power and at the moment they struggle to continually ask for funding. i have no dout that there are those in the UN, good people, that believe that they need a world wide emmissions trading scheme that they can oversea and collect and distribute money that will allow them the continous and growing funding that an organisation or government requires to consistently operate and influence people aroung the world on other issues that they believe in. 

and i do believe that people want to feel significant. a cause such as this can sweep people into action because they feel special abuot what they are doing for the future. they honestly feel good about the idea of doing something that will better the planet. i can understand that.

i belive that in order to provide for the future we have to provide them choice. and that is through education, wealth and control. i belive you do that through economic prosperity and the increases in education that it allows you to offer future generations.

i do not beleive you can do this through handicapping an economy. i belive you can do this by making an economy stronger and allowing it the opportunity to invest in a higher level of technology.

because technology is the key. our air is cleaner through improved car emmissions that were created because cars wanted to run more efficiently and people rewarded those car companies for doing so. you sell more cars that dont pump out smoke out the back. that has made up a large proportion of the improved cleaner air.

the water in our beaches is cleaner now than 40 years ago through improved technology for the treatment of sewerage and other products that were pumped into the sea. 

i belive countries like china and brazil should have a carbon tax though. if they want to hand their future generations to not have the cost of health through pollution then they need to do something quick. they are holding back the wealth of their nation through the reduction inthe quality of labour. i have always said that countries that have a pollution problem need to work on it asap and if they wait then they will suffer long term.  

the important part of the climate change question is what has changed. the idea that the weather is now tropical in sydney compared to 30 years ago is insignificant. nostalgia is a wonderful emotion and ths belief that the winters in sydney were all 20 degrees every day and the summers at 30 deagrees is incorrect.  the decade with the most number of major cyclones was the 70's. this was back when everynoe beleived we were heading to another ice age and that was the fear campaign that was run by scientists back then. 

what has really changed is the amount of damage done and the way in which we recover.  yes the value has increased as they will continue. but if you want to look at the number of human deaths associated to these in our country and other western countries then the numbers have drastically fallen. the most number of deaths from a heat wave or a cyclone occured in the 1800's when our populatin was much much smaller. about a fifth. we have been able to develop technology to overcome these events and that will continue to happen. if we contineu to build a strong economy that can support those that are affected and invest in technology that can protect and provide for those effected.

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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Go home Questions, you're drunk.



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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Go home Questions, you're drunk.



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Sadly no. I only sleep 4 or 5 hours a night and fell asleep at 10am watching a boring movie. Woke up at 3 and figured I would get some work done.
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Originally posted by Crash Crash wrote:


Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Go home Questions, you're drunk.



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Sadly no. I only sleep 4 or 5 hours a night and fell asleep at 10am watching a boring movie. Woke up at 3 and figured I would get some work done.

Now it all makes sense. You know what they say lack of sleep can do to a human.
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What does make sense is there has been nothing to support global warming over the past 15 years. Static. Conveniently a few cold days and some good snow falls have crazies now on about climate change.
Are we heading to another ice age ?.     A few volcano's and earth quakes can be fit into the dressmakers regime so it all reads well.
We won't mention hurricanes and tornedoes because they have been cyclical and floods and bushfires have improved with more attention to burn off and dam building.
All becoming too much.   No mention of my bowel actions at 8AM every morning [ come hail or shine ].The huge problem is with these cooler mornings, I don't wake up until 9AM.        Bluddy climate change.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

What does make sense is there has been nothing to support global warming over the past 15 years. Static. Conveniently a few cold days and some good snow falls have crazies now on about climate change.
Are we heading to another ice age ?.     A few volcano's and earth quakes can be fit into the dressmakers regime so it all reads well.
We won't mention hurricanes and tornedoes because they have been cyclical and floods and bushfires have improved with more attention to burn off and dam building.
All becoming too much.   No mention of my bowel actions at 8AM every morning [ come hail or shine ].The huge problem is with these cooler mornings, I don't wake up until 9AM.        Bluddy climate change.

Don't worry maxie, PM Vlad Abbott is going to fix the non problem by throwing $3B at it 
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BD..     All the little birds and frogs have disappeared from an area I have known for 80 years.   That bluddy climate change has no barriers.
One day someone with a brain might think about the tens of thousands of domestic cats and dogs that have been neglected and put into the wild .    They love poultry and frogs legs.
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Then you must be pleased that mr Abbott is throwing a whole truckload of our money at the 'problem' maxie
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0.7 c degrees increase in more than 100 years ,   in the much predicted present period of global warming ,   an increase of 0.17c in the last 30 years ,in other words very close to Zilch ,no wonder many thousands of scientists no longer believe in global warming , but not the dills who don't do their homework.
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0.7 c degrees increase in more than 100 years ,   in the much predicted present period of global warming ,   an increase of 0.17c in the last 30 years ,in other words very close to Zilch ,no wonder many thousands of scientists no longer believe in global warming , but not the dills who don't do their homework.


Exactly Sir,     Should be enough to find you have to go back to 1899 to find Australia's worst weather related disaster.     A time when we had only a fraction of todays population.   By comparison in 1899 we lost approx.,    5 times more people than in the Vietnam war.
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Originally posted by hatch hatch wrote:

0.7 c degrees increase in more than 100 years ,   in the much predicted present period of global warming ,   an increase of 0.17c in the last 30 years ,in other words very close to Zilch ,no wonder many thousands of scientists no longer believe in global warming , but not the dills who don't do their homework.


So now you're citing scientists. Well I guess that's a step in the right direction. Of sorts.

Obviously a very convincing lot that 3% hatch. To you anyway.
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Hatch the issue isn't whether or not the temperature was on an upward trend this century 

The issue is whether it has increased by .7 degrees but it should have only been .65 degrees and humans are responsible for the difference through our behavior
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Browndog ,   the only thing we should be considering is that this remakably stable world temperature over hundreds of years is for any of us to be stupid enough to be worrying about.   Climate change has happened in the past , hot periods and cold periods,and nothing to do with anything humans have done
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Originally posted by hatch hatch wrote:

Browndog ,   the only thing we should be considering is that this remakably stable world temperature over hundreds of years is for any of us to be stupid enough to be worrying about.   Climate change has happened in the past , hot periods and cold periods,and nothing to do with anything humans have done


Hatch. How many years have humans been polluting the atmosphere?
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Global Warming is the single biggest conspiracy theory of the past 50 years.
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I think you could be right there Brooke ,   people only have to get on the internet ,to see how many scientists believed and now dont ,older farmers who had seen the climate variations through the years ,never believed in Global warming ,it only had to be mentioned and they would laugh.
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Hatch, can you please explain to me how old farmers are qualified to explain scientific data?
The world has just experienced its 342nd consecutive warmer than average month. that's over 28 years of rise in temperatures. Do we just dismiss this Hatch? How else do you, and old farmers explain this?
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Dont bother Hatch. They are still stuck in the conspiracy theory.
I would rather let visual evidence prove them wrong.
There is currently greater risk of us going to an ice age, than to global warming meltdown.



A chilly Arctic summer has left nearly a million more square miles of ocean covered with ice than at the same time last year – an increase of 60 per cent.

The rebound from 2012’s record low comes six years after the BBC reported that global warming would leave the Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013.

Instead, days before the annual autumn re-freeze is due to begin, an unbroken ice sheet more than half the size of Europe already stretches from the Canadian islands to Russia’s northern shores.

global cooling

The Northwest Passage from the Atlantic to the Pacific has remained blocked by pack-ice all year. More than 20 yachts that had planned to sail it have been left ice-bound and a cruise ship attempting the route was forced to turn back.

Some eminent scientists now believe the world is heading for a period of cooling that will not end until the middle of this century – a process that would expose computer forecasts of imminent catastrophic warming as dangerously misleading.

The disclosure comes 11 months after The Mail on Sunday triggered intense political and scientific debate by revealing that global warming has ‘paused’ since the beginning of 1997 – an event that the computer models used by climate experts failed to predict.

In March, this newspaper further revealed that temperatures are about to drop below the level that the models forecast with ‘90 per cent certainty’.

The pause – which has now been accepted as real by every major climate research centre – is important, because the models’ predictions of ever-increasing global temperatures have made many of the world’s economies divert billions of pounds into ‘green’ measures to counter  climate change.

Those predictions now appear gravely flawed.

THERE WON'T BE ANY ICE AT ALL! HOW THE BBC PREDICTED CHAOS IN 2007

Only six years ago, the BBC reported that the Arctic would be ice-free in summer by 2013, citing a scientist in the US who claimed this was a ‘conservative’ forecast. Perhaps it was their confidence that led more than 20 yachts to try to sail the Northwest Passage from the Atlantic to  the Pacific this summer. As of last week, all these vessels were stuck in the ice, some at the eastern end of the passage in Prince Regent Inlet, others further west at Cape Bathurst.

Shipping experts said the only way these vessels were likely to be freed was by the icebreakers of the Canadian coastguard. According to the official Canadian government website, the Northwest Passage has remained ice-bound and impassable  all summer.

The BBC’s 2007 report quoted scientist  Professor Wieslaw Maslowski, who based his views on super-computer models and the fact that ‘we use a high-resolution regional model for the Arctic Ocean and sea ice’.

He was confident his results were ‘much more realistic’ than other projections, which ‘underestimate the amount of heat delivered to the sea ice’. Also quoted was Cambridge University expert

Professor Peter Wadhams. He backed Professor Maslowski, saying his model was ‘more efficient’ than others because it ‘takes account of processes that happen internally in the ice’.







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Just For you Brooke:


Pope Urges International Agreement on Climate Change

On Nov. 25, 2011, Pope Benedict XVI addressed delegates of 194 countries gathering in Durban, South Africa for the latest round of international climate change negotiations. He urged that they reach a strong global agreement to address the challenge of climate change: I hope that all members of the international community can agree on a responsible, credible and supportive response to this worrisome and complex phenomenon, keeping in mind the needs of the poorest populations and of future generations. Click here for the story from Vatican Radio

http://www.news.va/en/news/durban-climate-change-conference-underway


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That particular piece of nonsense from a right wing tabloid journalist has already been dealt with on this thread Brooke. Page 1. Try and keep up.

But don't be too discouraged. There's a lot more where that came from. Keep Googling.
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Dont bother Hatch. They are still stuck in the conspiracy theory.
I would rather let visual evidence prove them wrong.
There is currently greater risk of us going to an ice age, than to global warming meltdown.



A chilly Arctic summer has left nearly a million more square miles of ocean covered with ice than at the same time last year – an increase of 60 per cent.

The rebound from 2012’s record low comes six years after the BBC reported that global warming would leave the Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013.

Instead, days before the annual autumn re-freeze is due to begin, an unbroken ice sheet more than half the size of Europe already stretches from the Canadian islands to Russia’s northern shores.

global cooling

The Northwest Passage from the Atlantic to the Pacific has remained blocked by pack-ice all year. More than 20 yachts that had planned to sail it have been left ice-bound and a cruise ship attempting the route was forced to turn back.

Some eminent scientists now believe the world is heading for a period of cooling that will not end until the middle of this century – a process that would expose computer forecasts of imminent catastrophic warming as dangerously misleading.

The disclosure comes 11 months after The Mail on Sunday triggered intense political and scientific debate by revealing that global warming has ‘paused’ since the beginning of 1997 – an event that the computer models used by climate experts failed to predict.

In March, this newspaper further revealed that temperatures are about to drop below the level that the models forecast with ‘90 per cent certainty’.

The pause – which has now been accepted as real by every major climate research centre – is important, because the models’ predictions of ever-increasing global temperatures have made many of the world’s economies divert billions of pounds into ‘green’ measures to counter  climate change.

Those predictions now appear gravely flawed.

THERE WON'T BE ANY ICE AT ALL! HOW THE BBC PREDICTED CHAOS IN 2007

Only six years ago, the BBC reported that the Arctic would be ice-free in summer by 2013, citing a scientist in the US who claimed this was a ‘conservative’ forecast. Perhaps it was their confidence that led more than 20 yachts to try to sail the Northwest Passage from the Atlantic to  the Pacific this summer. As of last week, all these vessels were stuck in the ice, some at the eastern end of the passage in Prince Regent Inlet, others further west at Cape Bathurst.

Shipping experts said the only way these vessels were likely to be freed was by the icebreakers of the Canadian coastguard. According to the official Canadian government website, the Northwest Passage has remained ice-bound and impassable  all summer.

The BBC’s 2007 report quoted scientist  Professor Wieslaw Maslowski, who based his views on super-computer models and the fact that ‘we use a high-resolution regional model for the Arctic Ocean and sea ice’.

He was confident his results were ‘much more realistic’ than other projections, which ‘underestimate the amount of heat delivered to the sea ice’. Also quoted was Cambridge University expert

Professor Peter Wadhams. He backed Professor Maslowski, saying his model was ‘more efficient’ than others because it ‘takes account of processes that happen internally in the ice’.









This above story is for all the people that believe in the conspiracy theory of global warming. :)
Oh no, the ice grew. Confused
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If you live on the apex of a mountain you will pay a flood levy. Yet out chief scientist said "our dams will never be full again."
So many floods, so many scientists wrong. 
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

That particular piece of nonsense from a right wing tabloid journalist has already been dealt with on this thread Brooke. Page 1. Try and keep up.  But don't be too discouraged. There's a lot more where that came from. Keep Googling.
 
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Hatch, can you please explain to me how old farmers are qualified to explain scientific data?
The world has just experienced its 342nd consecutive warmer than average month. that's over 28 years of rise in temperatures. Do we just dismiss this Hatch? How else do you, and old farmers explain this?

           Think what you are saying ,   342 continual months of warming ,   for a total of 0.17c   What nonsense are you trying to put accross us here ,    keep your eye on the ball , the facts are there for all to see ,there is virtually no warming ,just keep looking at how much the worlds temperature has increased over a long period of time , and the last 28 years.
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Hatch, you are aware that the world will continue once you and I are gone, aren't you?
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We had three mornings in a row this winter of -3c -4c -3 ,   just think what it would have been id it wasnt for 342 months of continual warming .
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We had three mornings in a row this winter of -3c -4c -3 ,   just think what it would have been id it wasnt for 342 months of continual warming .



I give up. There is simply nothing to say to this.
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The Coalition is now in charge. Why is this still being discussed ?
STRIKE WHILST THE IRON IS HOT

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Yeah but he also hates daylight saving because the extra hour of sunlight fades his curtains
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