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Originally posted by Crash Crash wrote:

I wonder if it has anything to with the foreman leaving stables.
 
Which foreman?
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If you are talking about Paul, he left ages ago and Waller is still leading the premiership, like to be going as bad.
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Originally posted by Crash Crash wrote:

Anyway he has a winner in today 


 If you mean Miss Milanese I'm with you 100% Thumbs Up
Good form last prep, out of Miss Kournikova who was brilliant, and great trial win.


Waller is too good not to bounce back quickly. And I doubt the cattle he has atm are his top liners so like Snowden will be winning plenty very soon.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Crash Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2012 at 12:15pm
Originally posted by skinny skinny wrote:

If you are talking about Paul, he left ages ago and Waller is still leading the premiership, like to be going as bad.
My god there are some dressmakers on here



Oh yes him , thought it was a few months ...esp at 4am in the morning Embarrassed
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Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

Originally posted by Crash Crash wrote:

Anyway he has a winner in today 


 If you mean Miss Milanese I'm with you 100% Thumbs Up
Good form last prep, out of Miss Kournikova who was brilliant, and great trial win.


Waller is too good not to bounce back quickly. And I doubt the cattle he has atm are his top liners so like Snowden will be winning plenty very soon.




I was thinking Homedge or as Richard Freeman pronounces it Home-edge
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I think it might be more the fact that thoes horses he had running week in week out arnt there anymore. It had to take its toll eventually. Also with Gai's stable finding form that makes it tougher as well.
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Listen to the man. We (the Australian racing and breeding industry) might just learn something. Who drives the obsession with 2yo racing in this country? Who feeds the frenzy?

Waller gets his first juvenile winner for 2013-14

Nic Ashman - 5/02/2014

Premier Sydney trainer Chris Waller saddled up his first two-year-old winner this season when Brazen Beau led all the way in Wednesday’s Australian Turf Club Maiden Handicap (1100m) at Canterbury.

The trainer has developed a reputation for breaking records with older horses since arriving in Australia more than a decade ago. To put it in perspective, Waller has already trained 120 winners this season yet Brazen Beau’s win was his first in the juvenile category.

Waller is adamant you get more out of your bloodstock when they’re allowed time to mature despite the Australian trend of pushing horses in their two-year-old season.

"I don’t know why we do it. We have one two-year-old race a week,” he said.

"There’s 16 races for three and four-year-old and we all try and smash horses up for two-year-old races.”

Brazen Beau won’t be thrown into the deep end in a hurry with the trainer signalling "a 1200 metre race at Randwick” on February 22 as his next target.

"He’s still green and still learning and this is his first preparation,” he said. "He’ll get his chance to step up but we’re not getting too far ahead of ourselves.”

Brazen Beau ($2.70) defeated the Gai Waterhouse-trained Hampton Court ($2) by 4-1/2 lengths with another five lengths back to the Gary Portelli-trained Testashadow ($14) in third.

The market: Brazen Beau opened at $2.50 drifted to $2.90 and then firmed back into $2.70.Hampton Court eased from $1.80 to $2.10 before starting $2 while Testashadow firmed from $21 into $14. The market closed at 111 percent.

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No comment, the irony is there for all to see ... "The Gentleman Trainer"Clap
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Wiw what a sainr. All hail chrid waller !!!!
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I get the impression Waller cares about his horses ........and Gai?

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The move by Star Thoroughbreds makes total sense.

It's not about two year olds. It's about horses having a racing career.

Whatever they win at two is a bonus, not the highlight.
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Of course he would say that... he can't train one thats why... now who is like rats following the pied piper... 
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Doesn't need to wreck babies to be the best trainer in the country, one of the best blokes in racing and actually cares about his horses.
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Who wrecks babies

What he needs to do is learn how to pick one.
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ehh so he claims you shouldn't push young horses an yet he still has had alot of two year olds go around this season haha deary me.
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But he brings them along nicely with a few light preps after being broken in. The 2yo's tell him if they're ready. There's no wastage.  
 
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Originally posted by Gee Gee Gee Gee wrote:

But he brings them along nicely with a few light preps after being broken in. The 2yo's tell him if they're ready. There's no wastage.  
 


We the public only see those 2yos who do race & stay sound enough for a 3yo racing prep, not the carnage of the remainder, some of which are lucky enough to be well bred fillies who can become breeding stock; a few that end up with a patient new owner looking for a future equestrian mount with the rest appearing in stock saleyards & abbatoirs.
They all start out with optimistic owners who mainly want a social outing with friends when their horse races but many are burnt quickly by the unnecassary 'wastage' of babies who may well have fulfilled their owners dreams, had they been given the most cost effective of all resources, a little time Angry
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Originally posted by Flight Flight wrote:

The move by Star Thoroughbreds makes total sense.

It's not about two year olds. It's about horses having a racing career.

Whatever they win at two is a bonus, not the highlight.

True, i'm sure they despise the fact they've had so many 2 year old winners with Gai. LOL
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Quote The trainer has developed a reputation for breaking records with older horses since arriving in Australia more than a decade ago. To put it in perspective, Waller has already trained 120 winners this season yet Brazen Beau’s win was his first in the juvenile category.


is this true...120..??

since August...really...???


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what have the other top trainers trained by comparison to that? I know Snowden was close...
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Waller 121.5
Snowden 58.5
Waterhouse 56
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Where's that info come from Sunline? Racing and Sports has Gai at 96 and Snowden at 114. 
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interesting NSW stats in relation to starters per winner.

Trainer Name1st2nd3rd4th5thPrize MoneyStarts
Chris Waller104938677½72$7,247,355.00709
Gai Waterhouse82704648½23$3,979,895.00386
Peter Snowden8061554650$4,053,605.00465
John O'Shea52452424½21$2,015,560.00239
Guy Walter5032332835$1,816,500.00307
Bjorn Baker4025243222$1,225,490.00224
Anthony Cummings3927322024$1,201,775.00233
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I must have found something old on racing NSW. Just googled and it's what was on a racing NSW page
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Sydney Metro Trainers Premiership (Racing NSW)
Top Ten Trainers
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Chris Waller121.596.080.5
Peter Snowden58.551.045.0
Gai Waterhouse56.052.046.0
John O'Shea22.025.022.0
Joseph Pride22.018.015.0
Guy Walter20.019.022.5
Michael Hawkes20.018.511.0
Kris Lees19.018.016.5
Anthony Cummings18.015.014.0
Gerald Ryan17.010.019.0
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Sorry, the above is incorrect. This is from RISA

New South Wales Metro Trainer Premiership 1-Aug-2013 to 6-Feb-2014

Trainer Name 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Prize Money Starts
Chris Waller 84 75 68 63½ 53 $6,571,000.00 562
Gai Waterhouse 46 46 36 30½ 15 $3,201,520.00 258
Peter Snowden 44 35 31 29 24 $3,291,315.00 260
John O'Shea 23 24 19 11½ 16 $1,458,090.00 143
Joseph Pride 19 11 17 17½ $1,045,407.00 111
Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes 18 14 10 12 5 $1,179,245.00 90
Guy Walter 15 18 14 13 15 $1,185,960.00 128
David Payne 15 16 11 8 21 $1,126,990.00 123
Gerald Ryan 13 15 18 16 21 $1,069,055.00 135
Bjorn Baker 13 5 12 15 11 $688,345.00 105
Bart & James Cummings 13 4 12 12 6 $734,630.00 85
Anthony Cummings 12 9 12 6 12 $705,645.00 101
Kris Lees 9 8 6 6 10 $614,615.00 76
David Vandyke 8 4 7 5 7 $541,065.00 62
Tim Martin 7 8 5 12 4 $412,830.00 63
Ron Quinton 6 4 4 4 4 $322,645.00 38
David Pfieffer 5 6 7 4 2 $306,635.00 52
Jason Coyle 5 4 5 5 $354,417.00 43
Peter G Moody 4 11 6 7 7 $690,300.00 51
John P Thompson 4 9 6 10 5 $459,810.00 68

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And this is for the whole state

ew South Wales Trainer Premiership 1-Aug-2013 to 6-Feb-2014

Trainer Name 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Prize Money Starts
Chris Waller 104 93 86 77½ 72 $7,247,355.00 709
Gai Waterhouse 82 70 46 48½ 23 $3,979,895.00 386
Peter Snowden 80 61 55 46 50 $4,053,605.00 465
John O'Shea 52 45 24 24½ 21 $2,015,560.00 239
Guy Walter 50 32 33 28 35 $1,816,500.00 307

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pretty sure none of the above are australia-wide
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Ok, for all Aust

Waller Chris  121  105  96  82½  77 15.4% 786
Weir Darren  119  97  96½  81½  54½ 18.0% 662
Snowden Peter  115  99  97  73  79 16.1% 716
Moody Peter G  100  73  74  58  56 17.5% 571
Waterhouse Gai  97  75  50  55½  27 21.5% 451
Durrant Adam  72  35  27½  28  27 26.0% 277
Dunn Matthew  58  32½  35  23  31½ 22.0% 264

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Strike rate makes Waller look average.
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