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Reports sunken WWII ships in Asia looted by 'Chinese pirates'

ondon: Britain has launched an investigation into the plundering of British maritime war graves by Chinese pirates for scrap metal.

Ten ships, which were the final resting places for more than 1000 sailors and civilians who died off the Malaysian and Indonesian coasts during the World War II, have now been damaged or destroyed.

British Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson said he was "very concerned" to hear fresh allegations that four shipwrecks had been looted.It comes after six wrecks, including the Prince of Wales and Repulse, were feared to have been damaged or destroyed by scavengers.

The ships are often looted using dredgers, which pull the remains of the men up with the metal.Williamson said the British Government "absolutely condemns" the unauthorised disturbance of any wreck containing human remains.

"I am very concerned," he said. "We will work closely with the Indonesian and Malaysian governments to investigate these claims."t is thought that Chinese-owned barges had carried out many of the dredging operations.

The Mail on Sunday that said wrecks of HMS Tien Kwang, Kuala, Banka and Loch Ranza had recently been targeted.

Tien Kwang, a submarine chaser, and Kuala, an auxiliary patrol vessel, were carrying hundreds of evacuees when they were attacked by Japanese bombers near the Indonesian Riau Islands in February 1942.

Earlier that month, Loch Ranza, a cargo ship, had been set on fire in a Japanese air raid off the same islands and exploded, killing seven men.

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It came after Banka, a minesweeper, sank after hitting a mine off the coast of Malaysia in December 1941, killing its crew of four British officers and 34 Malaysian sailors.Looters are said to target the WWII-era wrecks because of the properties of their steel. Built before the advent of atomic weapons, the metal has absorbed little background radiation, making the material suitable for sensitive instruments.

The Ministry of Defence was attempting to create "special protection zones"' around the some of the sites.

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Chinese enterprise i suppose pt?Wacko
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What should we do about this Isaac?
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Probably where my kettle comes from lol, thought I had em tricked when I bought my Danish scan pan ...that is until I read the fine print when I got home ...you guessed it.
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The heats on ptLOL

http://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/worldtoday/malaysian-chinese-leaders-to-meet-over-suspended-projects/10140208

Malaysian and Chinese leaders to meet over suspended infrastructure projects

t takes a bold leader to suspend his country's largest trading partner's billion-dollar infrastructure projects.

That's just what the newly elected Malaysian Prime Minster did with three of China's Belt and Road projects in Malaysia.

Tonight China's President Xi Xingping will meet the Prime Minister of Malaysia, Dr Mahathir Mohamad, to discuss the relationship between their two countries.

China expert Richard McGregor is a senior fellow at the Lowy Institute. He speaks with The World Today's Eleanor Hall.

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Do you think Turnbull will stand up to them Isaac?
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Turnbull does his best to please all. bur then you would expect that from his centralist position.

What would Shorten do pt? 

Even harder for shorten to contemplate....LOL

in fact, what DOES Shorten say?
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You will get to find out next year. Wink
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The Guardian view on China: unease at home and abroad

There are real and important problems to address, but Donald Trump’s trade war will not solve them
his has not been the easiest of summers for Xi Jinping and his country. Donald Trump’s tariffs have rattled nerves in Beijing, already unsettled by the slowing economy. The ministry of finance and the central bank have had an open spat over fiscal policy. There are grumblings that the leadership invited trouble with its unabashed projection of might; was too complacent about the risks of US trade action; and is struggling to respond. But even if trade talks make progress when they resume this week, the issue is a channel for frustrations as well as the proximate cause.The scrapping of presidential term limits this spring cemented Mr Xi’s extraordinary concentration of power. Yet in doing so it shocked and alienated even some sympathisers. Now there are signs of a pushback: gossip about political intrigue; a scathing essay from a well-known scholar. Meanwhile, a public health scandal over faulty vaccines given to children has undercut his drive to crush corruption and bring the bureaucracy into line: wasn’t it supposed to prevent things like this? The excitement engendered by these developments is in large part a sign of how rare any glimpse of disharmony has become. No one doubts that Mr Xi remains in control. The question is whether he will retain the same leeway in pursuing his course as his nation enters choppier waters. Less than a year ago, Mr Xi spoke of a new era which would see China moving “closer to centre stage and making greater contributions to mankind”, in a decisive break with the long-held maxim that the country should hide its light and bide its time. Now state newspapers warn of the dangers of hubris.Underlying the tariffs is the growing hostility to China across the American political class. Beijing is correct to detect Washington’s anxiety in the face of its economic, technological and military progress. But the strength and breadth of concern is prompted by China’s increasingly repressive turn at home, and forcefulness abroad. Mr Trump’s erraticism, bullying and ignorance and the US disengagement he pursues have given Beijing a unique opportunity to make friends and influence people. Yet Australia, so dependent on China economically, has sounded the alert about “sharp power” and covert influence operations. Last month, Germany effectively blocked China’s state grid from taking a majority stake in an electricity network, citing national security concernsIn Singapore, there are increasingly obvious nerves about China’s influence. Malaysia has suspended $23bn in Beijing-backed infrastructure projects. Thailand has announced the launch of a regional infrastructure fund, seen as an attempt to reduce reliance on Chinese investment. Countries are taking a hard look at their relationship with Beijing, and the true cost of attractive deals. The ambitious rhetoric has backfired – but even if it is scaled down, what really worries people are deeds not words. These range from established issues such as hacking and trade practices to the militarisation of the South China Sea and Sri Lanka’s debt-necessitated 99-year lease of Hambantota port to the Chinese state-owned corporation which built it.

The claim that the world, or at least the west, “got China wrong” is not quite right; more accurately, governments and businesses were often too hungry to do their due diligence, or to act upon the warnings they did receive. In any case, in the age of Mr Trump, climate change and a globalised economy, working with China is not a choice, but a necessity. This trade war is not a solution to the problems. What is needed is not more hostility, but more attention: a serious investment (not least linguistic) in truly understanding what China seeks and how it tries to achieve it. It means more nuance and sophistication, not less. It means recognising that it is normal for rising powers to seek to reshape rules, but determining what concrete problems this poses in light of its priorities and values – and how to address them. It means, for instance, closely examining Beijing’s systematic efforts to enlist the Chinese diaspora in its foreign influence work, without overreacting to public diplomacy, or scapegoating or stereotyping communities.It means, too, consistency: not least a real commitment to working with those who share similar values instead of selling each other out for short-term advantage. Needless to say this will be a particular challenge for Britain in the age of Brexit. It means understanding that rights and values are not a bolt-on or a luxury for better times, but must be fundamental to the relationship. It means bolstering institutions that defend them, and upholding standards through our behaviour as well as our statements. None of this is easy. But it is necessary when the alternatives are drift and wishful thinking on one hand, or kneejerk hawkishness on the other.

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You will get to find out next year. Wink

what do YOU think he will do pt?

After Dastyaris effort, sack himself?
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China will get old before it gets rich.

And as for the ridiculous idea that China will become a great military power, surpassing the United States? Nonsense, starting from where China is now there isn't enough money in the world to create in 50 years what the US has lying around at its finger tips at the moment.

I am not saying China hasn't got a bit of steam left in her boiler, but the old thing is heating up badly, the pressure gauges are reading red, rivets are beginning to pop, the paint is starting to blister in alarming points and no amount of repainting can cover it up.

China, you could have done it, if you had started earlier, maybe 40 years earlier, but you left it too late. Sure the West isn't looking too sharp these days, it looks like the world is your oyster, but it never will be.

Stick to being a regional power, throw your weight around a bit against Vietnam or the Philippines if it makes you feel good, but the idea you will rule the world? Not this century, go back to the drawing board, come up with a different plan, maybe the 2100s will be your day in the sun.

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    What is feeling on India?

    I think there is massive potential in the U.S/India relationship and in having India as the most important country in the Commonwealth going forward.

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    India isn't trying to be a world dominator, no one feels threatened by India, I think India could quietly do well, but my goodness it needs to sort a lot of stuff out first.

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I dont think he will be neglecting our Pacific and northern neighbors as the current govt has done, driving them to China for assistance. 
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www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/19/the-guardian-view-on-china-unease-at-home-and-abroad

a comment i read, probably an article ive posted hereLOLsaid, 
Xi showed his hand too soon, 
he has underestimated his own peoples desire for capatalism, 
and luckily for the world, they are being pushed back against
the west thought, and rightly so, the chinese peoples would become more westernized and that doesnt suit a communist
is a money, power but perhaps more so, a cultural fight.

Do you think China will win pt? their peoples minds and souls are at stake here.....communism or capitalism?


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I wouldn't write China off just yet Isaac. They have a 25 and a 50 year plan, we have no clue, and no leadership, here or in America where it counts.
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