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and china wants to take taiwan over.
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

and china wants to take taiwan over.
And that is news, Isaac ? Tell us something we don't know.
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

Bigoted' Australia faces trade war over South China Sea, paper warns

Australia would face an economic collapse if the Chinese were to stop trading with us. My bet is they won't !

The choice will soon be Australia's to make
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

and china wants to take taiwan over.
And that is news, Isaac ? Tell us something we don't know.

so you know m, im  repeating the news. and it was repeated mainstream in the last few days. must be something in it.

where did you let me know? or other tbv forum users.


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It has been the clear policy of China to re-absorb Taiwan since before I was born, they consider it part of China, and made that explicit all along.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

Bigoted' Australia faces trade war over South China Sea, paper warns

Australia would face an economic collapse if the Chinese were to stop trading with us. My bet is they won't !


The choice will soon be Australia's to make

Well, if so, this will be an unprecedented national crisis.
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Turnbull's recent bagging of China, calls into question his fitness to be PM, in my opinion. Why antagonize the main trading partner ? Not for some petty domestic political game, (think Dastyari) ? In any case, total hypocrisy, given the coalition's Chinese connections. There is no gain for Australia in what Turnbull has been saying. Frankly don't think this bloke is worth a cracker to us, and if there was anyone of any calibre in his party, would have been out the door before now.
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Turnbull is in an invidious position of having to reassure the child Potus while keeping our no 1 trading partner onside
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What does that mean ?
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Australia isn't on China's BRI map. Indonesia, even PNG are, but not us. 
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Australia would face an economic collapse if the Chinese were to stop trading with us.


It might be the best thing toi happen to us. Make us wake up and fix the joint
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Macron urges Europe to join China's Silk Road revival plan

French president Emmanuel Macron also called on Europe and China to come together and curb climate change as the US flagged plans to withdraw from the Paris agreement.

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French president Emmanuel Macron urged Europe on Monday to take part in China's Silk Road revival plan, despite some European misgivings about the massive project as he began a state visit.

Mr Macron also called on Europe and China to team up on curbing climate change, in the face of US plans to withdraw from the Paris accord.

"Our destinies are linked," he said in a keynote speech on the future of Sino-French relations during a visit to the northern city of Xian, the starting point of the ancient Silk Road.

"The future needs France, Europe and China," Mr Macron said, adding he would travel to China "at least once a year".

Mr Macron began his three-day visit in Xian as a gesture to Chinese President Xi Jinping's huge New Silk Road project, an initiative to connect Asia and Europe by road, rail and sea.

The $1 trillion infrastructure programme is billed as a modern revival of the ancient Silk Road that once carried fabrics, spices and a wealth of other goods in both directions.

Known in China as "One Belt, One Road", the plan will see gleaming new road and rail networks built through Central Asia and beyond, and new maritime routes stretching through the Indian Ocean and Red Sea.

The project has elicited both interest and anxiety, with some in Europe seeing it as Chinese expansionism.

While France had been cautious about the plan, Mr Macron heartily endorsed the initiative.

"It represents a real opportunity to create bridges, through exchange, between countries and civilisations, just as the ancient silk routes once did," he said in an interview with the Chinese website China.org.cn.

"I think it's very important that Europe and China strengthen their collaboration on the initiative. France is ready to play a leading role in this."

But Mr Macron warned it should be carried out "within the framework of a balanced partnership" - a reference to concerns about China's trade surpluses. France has a $45.9 billion trade deficit with China.

Climate battle

Mr Macron's first official visit to Asia marks a new stage for his diplomacy, which has so far been concentrated on Europe and Africa.

He plans to seek a "strategic partnership" with Beijing on issues including terrorism.

In a French version of panda diplomacy, Mr Macron will give Mr Xi a horse as a gift - a retired Republican Guard horse that is currently in quarantine. 

On climate change, Mr Macron said he would talk to Mr Xi about "relaunching the climate battle" by preparing an increase in their engagements to combat global warming at the COP 24 talks in Poland later this year.

He praised China, the world's top polluter, for committing to the Paris accord after US President Donald Trump notified that America would pull out of the pact.

"China kept its word," he said.

"You demonstrate your immense sense of responsibility."

Cooperation will "show the world that the French and Chinese are capable of making our planet great and beautiful again", he said in Chinese.

After Xian, Mr Macron will head to Beijing along with his delegation which includes some 60 business executives and representatives of institutions.

Mr Macron and his wife, Brigitte, will meet Mr Xi and his wife, Peng Liyuan, on Monday night.

On Tuesday he will visit the Forbidden City, meet top Chinese officials and oversee the signing of business deals.

Human Rights Watch has urged Mr Macron to call publicly for human rights improvements in China during his meeting with Xi, but the French president's office said the matter would be addressed privately.

Along with his wife, Mr Macron visited the famous terracotta warriors in Xian, as well as a centuries-old Big Wild Goose Pagoda - a Buddhist site - and the city's mosque.

The 8000-man clay army, crafted around 250 BC for the tomb of China's first emperor Qin Shihuang, is a symbol of ancient artistic and military sophistication in a country that proclaims itself a 5,000-year-old civilisation.

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Trump is simply hastening China's inevitable ascension to no 1 economic power with his isolationist, combative, poorly thought out " policies "

Good one Donny Embarrassed
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He is the best thing that could have happened for China/Russia
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

He is the best thing that could have happened for China/Russia


How come America isn't aware of all this.

The costly delusion is bringing others to their knees
America has a brain of it's own .

Difference is, the USA is using theirs.











































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I posit that what has happened in the US is a variation of the "trickle down-effect", now we have the "wicking-up" of dumbness, a population that has been dumbed-down for decades, radiating its dumbness into every corner of society by osmosis. Someone should write their thesis on it. How is the Great Wall of Mexico any smarter than re-building the Chinese Great Wall to keep out undesirables ?
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68% of Americans are aware. The rest are deluded Trumpers waiting for the Telah spaceship to pick them up
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It's amazing CNNPT, two victims of pedophilia, you vilify and discredit what Milo says, yet praise Macron ...
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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I dont think either were victims
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" a population that has been dumbed-down for decades, "who you talking about? America? china has been doing that for centuries! what do you think they will have in store for the world?

would america run down its own population with tanks? what is your opinion of human rights isues in china? 

take that china bot....
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I dont think either were victims

Pay that.
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Naturally you discredit Milo who says he was, and not Macron, who lied about it ... 
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Whale, your second post in this thread is one of the best posts I have ever read in the village.

A great piece of clinical, objective analysis of the international impact on China's evolution, and it's role in the progress of Europe.

By the way Taiwan is a part of China, even the US governments policy is a one national China.
Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise
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i think my Taiwanese friend would disagree. with you voyager. 

Say Goodbye to Taiwan

Time is running out for the little island coveted by its gigantic, growing neighbor.

March-April 2014
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WHAT ARE the implications for Taiwan of China’s continued rise? Not today. Not next year. No, the real dilemma Taiwan will confront looms in the decades ahead, when China, whose continued economic growth seems likely although not a sure thing, is far more powerful than it is today.

Contemporary China does not possess significant military power; its military forces are inferior, and not by a small margin, to those of the United States. Beijing would be making a huge mistake to pick a fight with the American military nowadays. China, in other words, is constrained by the present global balance of power, which is clearly stacked in America’s favor.

But power is rarely static. The real question that is often overlooked is what happens in a future world in which the balance of power has shifted sharply against Taiwan and the United States, in which China controls much more relative power than it does today, and in which China is in roughly the same economic and military league as the United States. In essence: a world in which China is much less constrained than it is today. That world may seem forbidding, even ominous, but it is one that may be coming.

It is my firm conviction that the continuing rise of China will have huge consequences for Taiwan, almost all of which will be bad. Not only will China be much more powerful than it is today, but it will also remain deeply committed to making Taiwan part of China. Moreover, China will try to dominate Asia the way the United States dominates the Western Hemisphere, which means it will seek to reduce, if not eliminate, the American military presence in Asia. The United States, of course, will resist mightily, and go to great lengths to contain China’s growing power. The ensuing security competition will not be good for Taiwan, no matter how it turns out in the end. Time is not on Taiwan’s side. Herewith, a guide to what is likely to ensue between the United States, China and Taiwan.

IN AN ideal world, most Taiwanese would like their country to gain de jure independence and become a legitimate sovereign state in the international system. This outcome is especially attractive because a strong Taiwanese identity—separate from a Chinese identity—has blossomed in Taiwan over the past sixty-five years. Many of those people who identify themselves as Taiwanese would like their own nation-state, and they have little interest in being a province of mainland China.

According to National Chengchi University’s Election Study Center, in 1992, 17.6 percent of the people living in Taiwan identified as Taiwanese only. By June 2013, that number was 57.5 percent, a clear majority. Only 3.6 percent of those surveyed identified as Chinese only. Furthermore, the 2011 Taiwan National Security Survey found that if one assumes China would not attack Taiwan if it declared its independence, 80.2 percent of Taiwanese would in fact opt for independence. Another recent poll found that about 80 percent of Taiwanese view Taiwan and China as different countries.

However, Taiwan is not going to gain formal independence in the foreseeable future, mainly because China would not tolerate that outcome. In fact, China has made it clear that it would go to war against Taiwan if the island declares its independence. The antisecession law, which China passed in 2005, says explicitly that “the state shall employ nonpeaceful means and other necessary measures” if Taiwan moves toward de jure independence. It is also worth noting that the United States does not recognize Taiwan as a sovereign country, and according to President Obama, Washington “fully supports a one-China policy.”

Thus, the best situation Taiwan can hope for in the foreseeable future is maintenance of the status quo, which means de facto independence. In fact, over 90 percent of the Taiwanese surveyed this past June by the Election Study Center favored maintaining the status quo indefinitely or until some later date.

The worst possible outcome is unification with China under terms dictated by Beijing. Of course, unification could happen in a variety of ways, some of which are better than others. Probably the least bad outcome would be one in which Taiwan ended up with considerable autonomy, much like Hong Kong enjoys today. Chinese leaders refer to this solution as “one country, two systems.” Still, it has little appeal to most Taiwanese. As Yuan-kang Wang reports: “An overwhelming majority of Taiwan’s public opposes unification, even under favorable circumstances. If anything, longitudinal data reveal a decline in public support of unification.”

In short, for Taiwan, de facto independence is much preferable to becoming part of China, regardless of what the final political arrangements look like. The critical question for Taiwan, however, is whether it can avoid unification and maintain de facto independence in the face of a rising China.

WHAT ABOUT China? How does it think about Taiwan? Two different logics, one revolving around nationalism and the other around security, shape its views concerning Taiwan. Both logics, however, lead to the same endgame: the unification of China and Taiwan.


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China hopes to have its way without firing a shot

Although Basil Liddell Hart and John Boyd may be considered two of the most brilliant military strategists of the modern era, the father of pure grand strategy is Greek military commander Epaminondas (418-362BC).

A year after the Battle of Leuctra, Epaminondas marched across the Peloponnesian peninsula in Sparta. The Spartans refused to be engaged in the open, so Epaminondas elected to pursue what Liddell Hart called “true grand strategy”. In the middle of Sparta Epaminondas founded a new city at Mount Ithome in Messenia state, then another, Megalopolis, in Arcadia.

Across time this resulted in an infiltration of Sparta’s population, the creation of an insurgency and the loss of most of its workers. Significantly, it established influence over more than half of Sparta’s territory, controlling trade and economic routes. No battle was fought, not an arrow was fired nor a spear thrown.

Similarly, by penetrating the integrated systems and networks of government, business information, media, resources and strategic energy and maritime assets, China has sought to weave together an impressive influence within Australia and many other parts of the world. China’s pure grand strategy presents a significant geopolitical risk for us, particularly for investors, where these crucial areas of business, government and politics intersect.

When crossing the river on the border of Cote d’Ivoire and Mali with the Dozos (traditional hunters who act as a kind of village neighbourhood watch), you can see them ride their motorbikes on to a canoe and remain in the seat until they cross to the other side, where they ride off into the Mali savanna. No one told them they couldn’t do that, so they adapted.

No one told China it couldn’t build new islands on partly submerged reefs and claim them as Chinese territory with an exclusive zone of influence. No one said it couldn’t then place missiles, airstrips, helipads and satellite infrastructure on those islands. Throughout the history of China’s claim for the South China Sea, nothing was done to contain its application of grand strategy, except an appeal to a toothless international tribunal whose decision no one is willing or able to enforce.

The geopolitical risks built around this form of pure grand strategy are borderless and their effects can emerge in ways that may seem incongruent. When former US president Barack Obama failed to enforce his “red line” against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s use of chemical weapons against civilians, this sent the message to other nations that they could expand regional hegemonic claims without repercussions.

Indeed, whenever concern is expressed over the militarisation of the South China Sea islands, China plays the Obi-Wan Kenobi Jedi mind trick by claiming “there is nothing to see here”.

China’s use of pure grand strategy through the indirect approach was revealed three years before the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in the US, when two senior serving officers in the People’s Liberation Army, colonels Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui, wrote Unrestricted Warfare. In this slim volume the PLA officers advocate the use of non-military methods of waging war to defeat technologically superior opponents, such as the US.

The suggested methods include disrupting the networks of trade, telecommunications and transportation on which the West depends, as well as electricity grids and avenues of information technology (for instance through incessant hacking) including mass media, plus financial and economic manipulation.

This indirect approach is a clever means of gaining geopolitical advantage while avoiding direct military conflict.

China’s investment in a range of strategically located foreign ports around the world is more than smart supply-chain management. These investments create enormous leverage for China in the domestic and foreign policy interests of the countries that sold these ports to China. The effect of this positioning can be subtly played out in votes at the UN, the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation forum, the World Trade Organisation and a range of other multilateral bodies.

Not surprisingly, the authors also advocate manipulating the West’s commitment to international rules and conventions, such as the Law of Armed Conflict. Liang and Xangsui believe in fully exploiting the way the West imposes political and moral restraints on how its military forces can fight.

China has one of the largest seaborne guerilla fleets in the world. Under the cover of fishing, the on-water militia acts as a proxy force to extend and enforce China’s maritime interests. If it is attacked or threatened, China can claim its civilians are being unfairly targeted and generate strong nationalistic sentiment among mainland Chinese and those living abroad.

China shares a border with more countries than any other state. Since 1949, it has had border disputes with every one of its neighbours. Yet China also has resolved its border disputes with most of them, including Myanmar, Nepal, North Korea, Mongolia, Pakistan and Laos. It even has managed to reach territorial settlements with former enemies, notably Vietnam and Russia.

One of the best questions to ask an Australian prime minister is: how does Australia position itself between the US, our most important ally, and China, our most significant trading partner and increasingly the major owner of strategic assets in Australia and throughout our region?

One thing is for sure: given that the consequences of military conflict between leading powers threaten greater harm than perhaps at any time in history because of the complex and deeply integrated nature of economies and populations, now that these strategic locations and assets are lost, China’s ability to influence our ­national interests is likely only to grow.

Jason Thomas teaches risk management at Swinburne University and specialises in field-based assessments of complex project environments in countries such as Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Pakistan.

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These threads are all cute... do you know what agenda 21 is and why china has bought so much agricultural land ? Do a bit of research and by the way Rothschild basically owns china and Russia. The zionists control the world now and the USA didn't invade Iraq for oil either another made up deception. Saddam found some important historical artifacts just like Hitler who searched under the sea. People are so busy they can't see that the politicians are actors and people like Kanye west & Jim carrey are telling a story that people think is crazy but it's big picture stuff.

Pink Floyd sang about all this crap years ago but people don't comprehend the meaning of the lyrics.
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Horrific moment a lion and tiger both mauled circus horse - which miraculously SURVIVED

defencelesshorse was brutally mauled in the middle of a circus ring by a captive lion AND tiger.

The show horse was performing inside the ring when, out of nowhere, the two big beastspounced.

Circus bosses said they had a daring plan for the big cats to ride on the back of the horse and were rehearsing the risky trick when the two animals attacked.

The horrific incident happened inside a tent belonging to the Chinese "Taiyang" circus.

According to a Taiyang Circus spokesman surnamed Xu, it happened "half a month ago".

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The horse was prancing round the outside of the ring, wearing a small saddle, when the terrifying incident took place.

A circus spokesman said: "The animals didn't cooperate too well. The horse kicked the lion, which began biting it in return."

To make matters worse, the tiger which was also in the ring at the time joined the attack, gnawing at the animal's legs as it tried to gallop away.

The distressing footage shows the horse desperately going in circles around the caged ring as both the lion and the tiger cling to its body.

Circus staff used whips to drive the two big cats away, the video shows, with the panicking horse left bleeding and injured at the end of the ordeal.

Xu said the horse was "fine" and that it was "normal" for similar incidents to occur during rehearsals.

Their shows continued as planned. It is believed the circus is not currently being investigated by authorities.

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