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The funniest was a dog in the last race at CANNINGTON....about 1980...the trainer got the dog drunk...it was in the bag,he needed money...trouble was..the word was out that it was "off" before going on to the track.

The dog was obviously still under the influence as it moved down to the boxes...it was scratched,monies refunded.....the dog swabbed and positive to alcohol..trainer got 5 years? and moved to Qld.


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I wondered if the horses had actually been given something else (ie. a stimulant) prior to coming to the track and the top up squirt of bicarbonate was to affect excretion... alkalisers/acidity can drastically alter drug excretion
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Originally posted by skippy123 skippy123 wrote:

I wondered if the horses had actually been given something else (ie. a stimulant) prior to coming to the track and the top up squirt of bicarbonate was to affect excretion... alkalisers/acidity can drastically alter drug excretion

Now there's a thought!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote furious Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jan 2018 at 9:06am
Actually wasn't that the original reason this practice was banned?
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Actually wasn't that the original reason this practice was banned?


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I read on Racenet [I think] that Aquanita 'brand' is no more.
That grub Howell released a statement saying that the management company will be renamed in a new structure blah blah blah and that upholding integrity is paramount blah blah blah.
 
These people have no shame and hides like a rhino.
Symonds is usually an authority on everything and a big noise on the tweeter but he seems to have gone missing though.
He doesn't seem to be knowing so much about everything at the moment.
 
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Originally posted by Bi Carb Bi Carb wrote:


I read on Racenet [I think] that Aquanita 'brand' is no more.
That grub Howell released a statement saying that the management company will be renamed in a new structure blah blah blah and that upholding integrity is paramount blah blah blah.
 
These people have no shame and hides like a rhino.
Symonds is usually an authority on everything and a big noise on the tweeter but he seems to have gone missing though.
He doesn't seem to be knowing so much about everything at the moment.
 


Probably got a shut up or else tap on the shoulder. Aquanita has endemic issues with integrity.
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Originally posted by linghi11 linghi11 wrote:

Originally posted by Bi Carb Bi Carb wrote:


I read on Racenet [I think] that Aquanita 'brand' is no more.
That grub Howell released a statement saying that the management company will be renamed in a new structure blah blah blah and that upholding integrity is paramount blah blah blah.
 
These people have no shame and hides like a rhino.
Symonds is usually an authority on everything and a big noise on the tweeter but he seems to have gone missing though.
He doesn't seem to be knowing so much about everything at the moment.
 


Probably got a shut up or else tap on the shoulder. Aquanita has endemic issues with integrity.
 
He is after all , the Chair of MRC and a board member of Aquacheaters and a known huge punter.
Seems to have no shame.
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He should really step down from the board at MRC until this is settled.
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Originally posted by monty1 monty1 wrote:

He should really step down from the board at MRC until this is settled.

If implicated in any way then that's what should happen.
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I don't understand.

Why are ASIC (At the request of the racing industry body and/Or the Racing Minister) not blocking the closure of the Aquinita company.

The reason it is closing is surely because it's directors
are not able to be charged or held liable if the integrity issue are proven.

What is going on?

IS there any wonder racing may be the most attractive home of organised crime?

In this case possibly manage the committing of systematic organised crime for possible 15 years or more get found out and just walk, NO ONE CARES!!!

WHERE IS THE RACING MINISTER!!!, sack him, he is not doing his job!!!

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Originally posted by Paul Hogan Paul Hogan wrote:

I don't understand.

Why are ASIC (At the request of the racing industry body and/Or the Racing Minister) not blocking the closure of the Aquinita company.

The reason it is closing is surely because it's directors
are not able to be charged or held liable if the integrity issue are proven.

What is going on?

IS there any wonder racing may be the most attractive home of organised crime?

In this case possibly manage the committing of systematic organised crime for possible 15 years or more get found out and just walk, NO ONE CARES!!!

WHERE IS THE RACING MINISTER!!!, sack him, he is not doing his job!!!

 
Surely if you join the dots up in and around this/these cases and draw in the associates there is enough interest for the police to be involved ?
The trots get the cops in quick smart , they are so far ahead of the gallops its not funny.
Look at the way they have disposed of their grubs [life bans] in recent times.
We can only wish.
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You're both getting way ahead of yourselves. The last thing that should happen is a politician pre-empting natural justice. Pakula shouldn't and won't get publicly involved unless racing shows it can't manage its own integrity. If wisdom doesn't tell him that then the prospect of court action should. 
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Originally posted by Bi Carb Bi Carb wrote:

Originally posted by Paul Hogan Paul Hogan wrote:

I don't understand.

Why are ASIC (At the request of the racing industry body and/Or the Racing Minister) not blocking the closure of the Aquinita company.

The reason it is closing is surely because it's directors
are not able to be charged or held liable if the integrity issue are proven.

What is going on?

IS there any wonder racing may be the most attractive home of organised crime?

In this case possibly manage the committing of systematic organised crime for possible 15 years or more get found out and just walk, NO ONE CARES!!!

WHERE IS THE RACING MINISTER!!!, sack him, he is not doing his job!!!


 
Surely if you join the dots up in and around this/these cases and draw in the associates there is enough interest for the police to be involved ?
The trots get the cops in quick smart , they are so far ahead of the gallops its not funny.
Look at the way they have disposed of their grubs [life bans] in recent times.
We can only wish.


Spot on Bi Carb.

You don't even need to join the dots in this case.

What was once accepted practice (albeit illegal) there is nothing to hide so most people get told by those close to or part of the action.

When it starts to impact on the industry and they have to do something about it then those involved get there just deserts.

You are 100% correct, in any sport the police would be involved from a corruption standpoint.

Racing has such a bad name it is par for the course and shame on our Racing Minister and Racing Victoria for not demanding their involvement.

Jim
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