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    Posted: 18 Jan 2017 at 4:04pm
This So You Think 3yo trained at Murwillumbah might be one to follow. Only narrowly won a Gold Coast maiden at first start. However was checked early, then hung in badly in the straight. Whenever the jockey was able to ride the horse he surged forward. Will be better over further (1600m+).

In the TAB Highway on Saturday. I managed to get $41 with Sportsbet. I rate him a $2.40 chance.
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May run in Brisbane instead.
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Dirty rotten mongrels at Sportsbet cancelled my bet at $41. Didn't even bother to tell me. Now $8.00.
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If they are going to be idiotic enough to run him over 1200m they do not deserve this horse. 


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Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:

Dirty rotten mongrels at Sportsbet cancelled my bet at $41. Didn't even bother to tell me. Now $8.00.

Get on twitter and tear them a new one. #scum 


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Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:

Dirty rotten mongrels at Sportsbet cancelled my bet at $41. Didn't even bother to tell me. Now $8.00.


Did they cancel it after it was accepted?
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He would be scratched surely just doesn't show on system.

Check RISA!!
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Originally posted by Aurelius Aurelius wrote:

He would be scratched surely just doesn't show on system.

Check RISA!!


Nothing official
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:

Dirty rotten mongrels at Sportsbet cancelled my bet at $41. Didn't even bother to tell me. Now $8.00.


Did they cancel it after it was accepted?

Yes. 

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Originally posted by Aurelius Aurelius wrote:

He would be scratched surely just doesn't show on system.

Check RISA!!

Trainer says they are running in Sydney.
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Don't normally bet in these TAB Highway races but a few promising types in this one.

I think the winner will come from Care To Think, Clipper and And There Is More.
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Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:

Dirty rotten mongrels at Sportsbet cancelled my bet at $41. Didn't even bother to tell me. Now $8.00.


Did they cancel it after it was accepted?


Yes. 



How can they cancel it after it was accepted? Surely that is not legal! I would be straight on the phone giving them a blast and threatening to take it further.
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We’re dropping you a line regarding a recent bet you have placed on your Sportsbet account.


This correspondence serves as notification that your bets on Randwick R12 Care to Think has been cancelled due to the wrong lines/odds being posted.

Your bet was cancelled in accordance with our Rules, Terms & Conditions regarding Errors, which states:

 

Sportsbet makes every effort to ensure that no errors are made in prices offered or bets accepted on an Account. However, we reserve the right to correct any obvious errors and to void any bets where such has occurred. Should this occur, Sportsbet will endeavour to contact the Member by email or telephone.

 

As a result of this your wagers placed on this event have been made void and refunded to your account. Apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused.

If you require further assistance with the above, please do not hesitate to contact our Customer Service Team using the details listed below.

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Scumbags! IMO if they accept a bet it should stand.
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Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:

Scumbags! IMO if they accept a bet it should stand.


I agree. If they accept that bet, then that bet should stand. It is not your fault that they put up the wrong price. If they cared about their customer then they would reward you for finding value - by letting the bet stand. They clearly do not care about the customer. They know they don't have to. It opens up the prospect of them not paying out bets due to the simple - and inconvenient fact - that one of their punters stands to collect, or even won on the bet. Their vague clause could have them legally not paying out on bets and leaving punters high and dry.
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Pended for a minute before being accepted which means traders directly approved it. Should stand.
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Originally posted by SYT SYT wrote:

Pended for a minute before being accepted which means traders directly approved it. Should stand.

Should at least lodge with the Ombudsman so there is a record of it.  Also adds complexity to the business as they will need to respond to them etc.

If it becomes endemic - they will have the evidence to provide to any other body. 
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Odds makers are purely opinion. There is no fact behind them.

How do they determine factually that a mistake was made ?



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This horse in my not so humble opinion needs a lot further than 1200m going from maiden grade to a class 2 event.



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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

This horse in my not so humble opinion needs a lot further than 1200m going from maiden grade to a class 2 event.


I would have been a lot happier if the race was 1400m. In the long term I can see this horse competing at 2000m+.
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The stable money's on. $8.00 in to $3.40 overnight.
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Odds makers are purely opinion. There is no fact behind them.

How do they determine factually that a mistake was made ?

Their terms and conditions are weighted in the sportsbooks favor of course.

If the odds correspond to the wrong numbers or an error putting in the odds, such as adding an extra zero, it's industry standard to cancel the bet.
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Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:

Scumbags! IMO if they accept a bet it should stand.
Were they the only ones with odds up when you bet, or were the TAB already up at $8?

I think they may have messed up 11 and 12.

They put 11 up at $12 and 12 up at $41 when it was supposed to be the reverse.
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I think Clipper will be the better of the pair
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I like Clipper too. Pretty confident one of the two will win.
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I am cheering on Care To Think simply because he is by the immortal So You Think.

He is now way unders in my book. He was unders in my opinion when he was 7/1.

Good luck Bonfield.




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Good luck to those on, too short to back at current quote though
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I would complain to the ombudsman, and never bet with them again.
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Thought that was a really untidy ride from Tim Clark on Care To Think. 


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Look at the ride on And There is More, djebel.. That was untidy.
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