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An otherwise blameless life?
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So many questions.  

Is 'kiddy fiddling' like 'horseplay' ?  i.e. a cutesy term we use when trying to diminish the gravity of child rape ?

The full summary of Judge Kidd's sentencing of George Pell can be read at -



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Originally posted by Tontonan Tontonan wrote:

So many questions.  

Is 'kiddy fiddling' like 'horseplay' ?  i.e. a cutesy term we use when trying to diminish the gravity of child rape ?

The full summary of Judge Kidd's sentencing of George Pell can be read at -





"Evidence of an offender's otherwise good character is a factor that the sentencing judge is bound to consider. You have no prior convictions. Since this offending, you have not committed other offences.

I sentence you upon the basis that these episodes (viewed together) constitute isolated offending.

I make substantial allowance for your good character and otherwise blameless life."


As I thought. So Pell has no form, according to the judge, before or after, according to the judge, but on these two occasions suddenly goes crazy, I mean, he's never had any other opportunities, with an open door and in the knowledge people in close proximity are tasked with tailing him.

Well it might be true- I have no way of knowing- but it sounds preposterous.

"Even the things that I believe in the most, I doubt.”
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by Tontonan Tontonan wrote:

So many questions.  

Is 'kiddy fiddling' like 'horseplay' ?  i.e. a cutesy term we use when trying to diminish the gravity of child rape ?

The full summary of Judge Kidd's sentencing of George Pell can be read at -





"Evidence of an offender's otherwise good character is a factor that the
sentencing judge is bound to consider. You have no prior convictions.
Since this offending, you have not committed other offences.

I sentence you upon the basis that these episodes (viewed together) constitute isolated offending.

I make substantial allowance for your good character and otherwise blameless life."


As I thought. So Pell has no form, according to the judge, before or after, according to the judge, but on these two occasions suddenly goes crazy, I mean, he's never had any other opportunities, with an open door and in the knowledge people in close proximity are tasked with tailing him.

Well it might be true- I have no way of knowing- but it sounds preposterous.




“No form” means no convictions. The judge can’t sentence in the basis of the many previous accusations against him. “Many” being an important word you should consider.
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Preposterous ?

Brenton Tarrant has led an otherwise blameless life apart from 10 minutes  ... what's a cutesy term for mass murder ?.... I know, as a 'kebab removalist'

Yes, I am as appalled by the term as you are but that is how Tarrant described himself in his manifesto.  Maybe he found the term mass murderer unpalatable.  Maybe he was trying to be funny.  

But my point is that 'an otherwise blameless life' and references of 'good character'  and 10 minutes of 'craziness' do not mitigate the gravity of his offending.

Nor does George Pell's.
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Originally posted by Tontonan Tontonan wrote:

Preposterous ?

Brenton Tarrant has led an otherwise blameless life apart from 10 minutes  ... what's a cutesy term for mass murder ?.... I know, as a 'kebab removalist'

Yes, I am as appalled by the term as you are but that is how Tarrant described himself in his manifesto.  Maybe he found the term mass murderer unpalatable.  Maybe he was trying to be funny.  

But my point is that 'an otherwise blameless life' and references of 'good character'  and 10 minutes of 'craziness' do not mitigate the gravity of his offending.

Nor does George Pell's.



And that comparison is equally preposterous.LOL Unless you can unearth Pell's manifesto on child abuse.
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Tiaz, like you I find the verdict strange, without knowing all the facts. We will see what happens if there is an appeal.
However you are starting to sound a bit like Hatch Confused
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Amazing how some people can use apparently supernatural powers of reasoning and perception to just "know". Even if they've seen about a trillionth of the evidence. Maybe we could employ some of these geniuses to circumvent due process altogether. 

Police saw enough to investigate, the DPP saw enough to charge and the court saw enough to convict. It may change on appeal, but as it stands he's guilty.
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Tiaz, like you I find the verdict strange, without knowing all the facts. We will see what happens if there is an appeal.
However you are starting to sound a bit like Hatch Confused


What evidence can there be? DNA? Description of Cardinal Sin's penis tatt? If they have such evidence then produce it.

I doubt that Kidd would have found him guilty if it was a bench trial.

"These are all reasonable inferences available once it is assumed, as I must, that this offending actually occurred."
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by Tontonan Tontonan wrote:


But my point is that 'an otherwise blameless life' and references of 'good character'  and 10 minutes of 'craziness' do not mitigate the gravity of his offending.

Nor does George Pell's.


And that comparison is equally preposterous.LOL Unless you can unearth Pell's manifesto on child abuse.

Again,

My point is that 'an otherwise blameless life' and references of 'good character'  and 10 minutes of 'craziness' do not mitigate the gravity of his offending.  You think they do.

The comparison is perfectly valid ... unless you assume Pell to be innocent, even though he has proven guilty before judge and jury.   

You want the law to go easy on the child rapist because it's his first conviction and he has character references.  Judge Kidd's sentencing  gave due consideration to Pell where it was appropriate.   

6 years.  Thank your god it wasn't 10.


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Originally posted by Tontonan Tontonan wrote:

Preposterous ?

Brenton Tarrant has led an otherwise blameless life apart from 10 minutes  ... what's a cutesy term for mass murder ?.... I know, as a 'kebab removalist'

Yes, I am as appalled by the term as you are but that is how Tarrant described himself in his manifesto.  Maybe he found the term mass murderer unpalatable.  Maybe he was trying to be funny.  

But my point is that 'an otherwise blameless life' and references of 'good character'  and 10 minutes of 'craziness' do not mitigate the gravity of his offending.

Nor does George Pell's.

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Serial child molester walks free in Queensland

A serial child sex offender from Queensland has walked free despite admitting to having raped a young boy seven years ago.


A repeat child sex offender from Queensland has avoided being sent to jail for raping a young boy, after a judge ruled there were exceptional circumstances.

Caboolture man Corey David Jamieson, 23, was given community service and a 12-month suspended sentence in the Brisbane District Court on Wednesday after pleading guilty to raping and indecently treating a family friend in 2008 and 2009.

The victim was aged just five and six at the time.

Now 12, the boy came forward after members of his family saw a 2014 news article about Jamieson molesting two other boys.

The victim's father stormed out of court after Judge Terry Martin handed down the suspended sentence.

The father, who can't be named for legal reasons, said his son still suffers emotional scars.

"(He's) going to be shattered if we go home and tell him (Jamieson) is not going to jail," the 52-year-old told reporters.

Jamieson previously served nine months in jail for indecently treating a 12-year-old and 10-year-old, including filming and taking photos of the acts.

He was released early on parole in August 2014.

Crown prosecutor Melissa Wilson said Jamieson had admitted to indecently treating the victim in Wednesday's case five times, and raping him three times.

Ms Wilson conceded that without his admissions Jamieson wouldn't have been prosecuted on almost all the charges.

Judge Martin said the "remarkable" co-operation indicated remorse and noted Jamieson was aged just 15 and 16 when he preyed on the boy.

The judge took into account a psychologist's report that indicated Jamieson's rehabilitation was well underway, and reports of good behaviour while on probation.

"Clearly exceptional circumstances have been demonstrated, justifying sentences which do not involve actual imprisonment," Judge Martin said.

Jamieson's sentence has been suspended for 18 months.



https://www.sbs.com.au/news/serial-child-molester-walks-free-in-queensland
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Criminal Judgements and Sentencing isn't like the NRL Judiciary, you know, consistent ...Ermm
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