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Dr E
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This judgement was "ordained" in 2013 rusty ... please try to keep up!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Dr E
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Operation "Tethering" ... clever word play hey! ... there was no complaint, just a plan ... so far so good, just hoping that the High Court doesn't fcuk it up!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Passing Through
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Hey Doc, is John Setka being setup? a political witch-hunt/ the bi-annual Lib Royal Commission into unions, relentlessly pursued by the Prime Minister no less, a fraudulent federal police harassment of him Morrison recommending his union be shut down. By your standards and ''reasoning'' he should be in line for Canonization when he goes.
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Baghdad Bob
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As I lost a lobster on the decision of The Court of Appeal, I am prepared to bet two lobsters that this appeal will go to the High Court and decision overturned. I do not know whether anyone on this forum has read the judgments of the three judges or not, but I have read the printed version of their judgments. The dissenting judge ( Weinberg ), a criminal QC, wrote over two hundred pages in his judgment, the other two judges combined wrote 120 pages mainly about the honesty of the complainant.
Weinberg focused on the possibilities, plausibility, impossibilities and implausibilities of thirteen events having occurred on which Pell has been convicted. From media reports Pell's lawyers are off to the High Court on the basis of Weinberg's through analysis of the thirteen charges.
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Dr E
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I won't be betting against you Bob ... although, it smells like the fix is in!
The victims lack of clarity, confusion and inconsistent evidence was what "impressed" 2 of the appeal judges, and made him seem "honest", and all of the incredible events were therefor "possible" ...?wow.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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maccamax
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It has been a "toss of the penny" , every time the charges have been heard.
Doesn't that point to reasonable doubt. |
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Dr E
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Anti-Abortion Protestors Worry New Bill Will Limit Amount Of Kids Their Priests Have Access ToAnti-abortion protestors in harbourside city of Sydney are re-focusing this morning, after being disappointed by the decision of the Victorian Court of Appeal down in Melbourne. The upholding of the conviction of the rock spider George Pell today, follows thousands taking to the CBD in Sydney last night to protest against the decriminalisation of abortion. Holding placards and chanting, the pro-lifers took to the streets in a desperate attempt to stop the NSW government passing the abortion bill that has been endorsed by most sitting politicians, doctors, women’s health experts, lawyers, and domestic violence experts. Speaking to The Advocate out the front of the NSW State Parliament this morning, a spokesperson for the pro-lifers explained that there is so much at stake with the legalising of a medical procedure. “The passing of this bill will further widen the gap between church and state, and we don’t want to live in a world where our church doesn’t have influence over our law-making bodies,” the spokesperson named Phil Shillton said. “And even scarier than women having control over their own bodies is the fact that the priests in our Church, and people in our institutions will have limited to access to children.” “Given the Church’s long and storied history of child abuse, removing the ability of our priests to do that would almost be like pulling a pillar out from our foundations.” Shillton then explained allowing women safe access to abortions, would have a certain detriment on the Church’s ability to do that. “Forcing women to have unwanted children, which can end up in our institutions and homes has been a core business model for us, so we need to fight to stop this bill from happening.” “Anyway, I’ve got to get back to it,” said the man not taking the hint that he should maybe kiss up about lecturing people on morals for a little bit. More to come. |
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Redemption
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What has the murder of innocent babies got to do with all religions raping children?
Not seeing the connection.
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Passing Through
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Hint Redemption: Satire.
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Tontonan
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The Betoota Advocate is supposed to be a satire. Just because it looks like a press report doesn't mean it is a press report or by any means true.
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Dr E
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This must be satire too ... 2 and a bit years???
Victim actually knew where and when the multiple assaults happened ... mustn't have been very "believable" ... or do you get "mates rates" if you are a member of the right "club" ... Magistrate Graeme Curran sentenced to two years and four months in jail for indecent assaultSydney magistrate Graeme Curran has been sentenced to two years and four months in jail for indecently assaulting a teenage boy in the 1980s. Curran, 69, stood trial earlier this year and was found guilty of seven of the nine charges against him. The charges related to sailing and camping trips between 1981 and 1983, when the boy was aged between 13 and 15 and Curran was in his early 30s. Acting Judge Anthony Rafter today said Curran was a family friend of the complainant and the offending involved "a very grave breach of trust". "The offender exploited the complainant's vulnerability for his own sexual gratification," he said. Curran was sentenced to two years and four months with a non-parole period of 16 months. He will be eligible for early release in December next year. more ... |
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Second Chance
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Almost needless to say Curran is a devout Christian Catholic.
The timing and sad irony of the verdict is palpable.
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rusty nails
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Wtf do they put in the wafers they dish out at half time in mass?
What is it about the Catholic Church that attracts paedophiles? How come bikies are banished from Qld, but the Catholic Church attracts tax free status? I reckon there are more crims in the Church than all the bikies in the land...... |
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Dr E
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Source?
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Dr E
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They were always on Epstein's invitation list ...
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Tlazolteotl
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The District Court heard Curran was regarded as part of the teenager's family and would buy them expensive gifts, including a holiday to Europe and a car. He would refer to the complainant as "his little chicken". Absolutely nothing suspicious about this bloke is there, darling? Oh, no - it's a great idea for our teenage son to go camping with our exceedingly generous friend, sweetie. |
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
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Dr E
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Excellent parenting!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Tlazolteotl
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Sounds like they pimped him out.
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
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Dr E
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Doesn't sound like he gets the opportunity(s) of his own accord ...
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rusty nails
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What a surprise that an apologist for the church, and someone that worked with them/ for them for over a decade would publish such drivel. I spose the believers will take comfort from his spin..... They seem to believe anything |
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Second Chance
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Agree. Absolute drivel.
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Dr E
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It's hardly an "apology" rusty ... it's simply a clarification and explanation using statistical data and common sense. I didn't see any denial of the facts.
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Dr E
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sigh ... agree with what SC?
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Second Chance
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Drivel, absolutely drivel. Nothing more or less than cr@p for Catholic troglodytes.
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Dr E
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Why is it drivel? ... What part is crap? ... how is it wrong?
There is no denial of the allegations ...
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Passing Through
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You need one of these Doc. |
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Tlazolteotl
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The whole thing hangs on a few claims:
If those claims are accurate I can't see anything wrong with the article. Are they accurate? |
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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.
Simon Cameron |
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rusty nails
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He states 4% of Catholic clergy are kiddy fiddlers.
Then states 15-20% of kids get fiddled with. The link clearly is meant for the reader to infer that these figures together mean that Catholic clergy are under represented in the community. Except everyone knows the quota for Catholic clergy to rape kiddies is not capped to one per abuser.. I could go on, but just that on it’s own is enough to paint the whole piece as an apologists attempt to spin the facts. |
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Second Chance
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Important Clarification: the drivel is two-fold - both the article in question and Dr E's subsequent posts.
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