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Heading for semi-retirement phase of life. Looking at a new car (only 2 of us although grandkids shortly). Always been a Holden Commodore man. Thinking of a small SUV - although never had an SUV before. Ease of getting in & out appeals. Budget up to 70k. Thinking Audi A3 or VW Tiguan. Thoughts on quality / maintenance + any thing else appreciated - including alternative options .
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Audi Q3

I was a Commodore man all my life. 12 yr old car had head gasket problems and dings ,cost more to fix than it was worth.
I have always disliked SUV's, thought they were pretentious and hard to see around at intersections. Visited a few car yards for a second hand car, saw an Audi Q3, took it for a drive, loved it.

Did not do any research into other brands even though I should have and websites like Caradvice recommend other SUV's ahead of the Audi.

Bought a 2012 model private sale, had done 11,000, paid $30,000 14 months ago.

I don't drive much but super happy with it, needs servicing once a year and quit reasonable if you don't go to Audi dealer, a new car has a warranty anyway, not as long as say Kia which has 7 years.

Also the dimensions of the Audi Q3 are less than the Commodore and how good is the rear parking camera, just brilliant.  Of course the 2018 model would have many more goodies than mine.
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I’m not a car guy but don’t think you need to spend anything close to $70k.
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2019 model got an 8.4 , higher rating than previous models  I think the Q3 possibly has a more luxurious feel inside that the VW

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Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

I’m not a car guy but don’t think you need to spend anything close to $70k.

maybe not but the extras do add up
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

I’m not a car guy but don’t think you need to spend anything close to $70k.


maybe not but the extras do add up



I bought a brand new Mazda CX-5 about 4 years ago, 1 step up from base model with a couple of extras and total cost was mid-$30k’s. As I said I’m no car expect so others will probably have valid opinions as to the quality of the vehicle but I’ll say have had absolutely no issues whatsoever. Love it and will get another one at some point.
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Do your research on the extras you want before committing to the car yard organising them for you, the last car we purchased rhey tried to sign us up for tinting and paint protection at a price of $2k, vehicle already had tinting, local panel beater told us paint protection is useless and just a gimmick and we could have got both elsewhere for less than $1k anyway.
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We bought a new Kia Cerato for about $21k 11 months ago and couldn't be happier.  Surprising amount of room and the latest model has a bit more grunt under the bonnet.  Also very much liked the Mazda 3 and Mazda 6.  All would give you a heap of change out of $70k.

Not into the SUV scene so can'rt comment.
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You're after a town car I presume Oneone?

I purchased a new Dualis TiL a few years back. A little over 30k after trade and it was top of the line. All the bells and whistles you could ever want.

The only problem is it is a town car. Terrific on the H'way and around town but where I live I needed a 4x4 to tow a horse trailer and c'van so got rid of the Dualis.

It was the best car I have ever driven, and I had 2 new commodores before it. Great town car.
The Dualis is now called the Qashqai.

My local mechanic told me to never buy a VW because they need to be serviced by specialist mechanics that are trained by VW. And good luck finding one when travelling around the country areas.

Good luck mate. Some very nice cars available in your price range.
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Scamanda, when you traded the dualis for a tow vehicle, what did you get to tow ? 
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Oneone, am tipping that after the evening shift arrives you'll have around 10-20 alternative recommendations to choose from.  Tongue
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Oneone, am tipping that after the evening shift arrives you'll have around 10-20 alternative recommendations to choose from.  Tongue

Is he a car expert as well as finance guru, building tsar, sporting club committee wunderkind, $500, 000 worth and countless other areas of expertise ?


rhetorical question , of course he is  Clap
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Thanks guys. Only town Scamanda. Lot more homework to do obviously. Cheers
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I’ve still got the 1980 Corolla out the back paddock. 590,000km!
Hasn’t been registered in years, just drive it around the farm.

Don’t make them like they used to, you would be lucky to get half of that these days.
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Originally posted by crooked_gambler crooked_gambler wrote:

I’ve still got the 1980 Corolla out the back paddock. 590,000km!
Hasn’t been registered in years, just drive it around the farm.

Don’t make them like they used to, you would be lucky to get half of that these days.


LOL Thumbs Up  I had an 84 Corolla with 400,000Ks on it and still going.  Only ever broke down once when a hose broke.   Finally traded and got $500 for it ,,,,,and now the cops are using it for spy work .   You are right. They dont make them like they used to !
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Can't say much for the most recent model, but had a 1996 BMW 3 series and it was a fantastic car. Say what you like about the Germans, but they can make a fantastic car.

The only problem is as we all know if you have a popular European make, parts and labor if anything goes wrong are more expensive.

Unfortunately the head gasket went in it and the repairs cost more than the car was worth so I reluctantly sold it.

The day the buyer came to pick it up I nearly cried!

Not sure what a series 3 goes for these days, but if you get a BMW it is an ideal town car.
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I'm a Lexus man myself. Very reliable brand. I've never had one problem. The car runs beautifully.
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Originally posted by crooked_gambler crooked_gambler wrote:

I’ve still got the 1980 Corolla out the back paddock. 590,000km!
Hasn’t been registered in years, just drive it around the farm.

Don’t make them like they used to, you would be lucky to get half of that these days.


LOL Thumbs Up  I had an 84 Corolla with 400,000Ks on it and still going.  Only ever broke down once when a hose broke.   Finally traded and got $500 for it ,,,,,and now the cops are using it for spy work .   You are right. They dont make them like they used to !



You are so right AA!
My first car was my Aunt’s old 1974 Toyota Crown. It was an absolute tank! Kept going and going. Only decided to die when I didn’t check the water and it overheated badly on the way back to Brisbane from the Gold Cost on a scorching hot summer day.

Wasn’t much fun waiting on the side of the road for a tow truck for 2hrs in high 30s heat with no aircon but that’s another story!
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Originally posted by MJB MJB wrote:

I'm a Lexus man myself. Very reliable brand. I've never had one problem. The car runs beautifully.

I know someone who has one and I'll second that recommendation in the price bracket . If you do test one have a look at the Hybrid version as well .
 It's much cheaper to run and tried and tested over a number of years . 
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Originally posted by Mr Prospector Mr Prospector wrote:

Originally posted by MJB MJB wrote:

I'm a Lexus man myself. Very reliable brand. I've never had one problem. The car runs beautifully.

I know someone who has one and I'll second that recommendation in the price bracket . If you do test one have a look at the Hybrid version as well .
 It's much cheaper to run and tried and tested over a number of years . 

if you are talking about this one, a poor review


Better reviews for Toyota Prius Hybrid and this one

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I've also heard good reports about the reliability of the Hyundai . The review seems to pick at some of the design features and finish plus things like the entertainment system etc. of the Lexus . All the small engined  Toyota models have lousy response from what I've seen . He does say that it's based on the Toyota Prius though .

I've driven one and I believe they are very reliable option . As the review says there may be better options for the money but may be worth a test drive in that price bracket . 
 
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Scamanda, when you traded the dualis for a tow vehicle, what did you get to tow ? 

I stuck with Nissan acacia and went for the Navara D40. 4 cylinder turbo diesel.
Power to burn and equivalent to a commodore in fuel economy.

Very happy with it to date.
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Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Scamanda, when you traded the dualis for a tow vehicle, what did you get to tow ? 

I stuck with Nissan acacia and went for the Navara D40. 4 cylinder turbo diesel.
Power to burn and equivalent to a commodore in fuel economy.

Very happy with it to date.

Dual cab ?
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Originally posted by Mr Prospector Mr Prospector wrote:

I've also heard good reports about the reliability of the Hyundai . The review seems to pick at some of the design features and finish plus things like the entertainment system etc. of the Lexus . All the small engined  Toyota models have lousy response from what I've seen . He does say that it's based on the Toyota Prius though .

I've driven one and I believe they are very reliable option . As the review says there may be better options for the money but may be worth a test drive in that price bracket . 
 




I test drove a Hyundai Santa Fe a few months ago and it drove great. Very nice. Overpriced though IMO.

That said if anyone is looking at getting a Hyundai they currently have a promotion for up to 100,000 velocity frequent flyer points:

https://www.hyundai.com.au/offers/velocity?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=velocity%20website&utm_campaign=offersvelocity

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Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Scamanda, when you traded the dualis for a tow vehicle, what did you get to tow ? 

I stuck with Nissan acacia and went for the Navara D40. 4 cylinder turbo diesel.
Power to burn and equivalent to a commodore in fuel economy.

Very happy with it to date.

Dual cab ?

Dual cab and the Thai chassis.

The chassis built in Spain rust and break.
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Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Scamanda, when you traded the dualis for a tow vehicle, what did you get to tow ? 

I stuck with Nissan acacia and went for the Navara D40. 4 cylinder turbo diesel.
Power to burn and equivalent to a commodore in fuel economy.

Very happy with it to date.

Dual cab ?

Dual cab and the Thai chassis.

The chassis built in Spain rust and break.

That is interesting you would think it would be the other way around. good research to find that out, I cannot understand how a company like Nissan has such slack, varying quality control.
Is the chassis replaced free, guess it would be very expensive, and how long does it normally take to break , well past warranty date no doubt ?
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My Cousin bought a brand new Hyundai Tuscon, in Sydney,  last year. Paid cash on the nose and drove it off the lot.   It had 2 thousand Ks on it when he drove it here to visit.  Long story but went out to go down the town and the oil light was on, so drove it to the local NRMA agency/garage to get it filled, all of 1 K away.  The mechanic there checked, a full oil tank,  and freaked when he heard the noise,,,,engine buggered .  Nrma put it on a truck and took it to the closest Hyundai place in Maitland,,,,after 2 days they didnt want to know, so loaded it up and took it to Newcastle.  They loaded it up and took it to Sydney.  All the time my cousin talking to them about a car while it was off the road.  Between Hyundai and NRMA ( that he has been a platinum member of for 42 years ) They messed him about badly and he ended up getting the train back to Sydney.   He is 6foot 5 inches tall and all they were offering was a small Accord ( I think ) which he cant get into.  And he had to go to Maitland to pick it up.  An hours drive over country roads.  In Sydney they told him they would have to put a complete new motor in, and he said he would prefer a new car, which they flatly refused to even discuss.
3 weeks later he got his car back with no sorry for all the messing about,  or not one word of apology from either Hyundai , or the NRMA, who at first argued he wasnt even a member !!
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by scamanda scamanda wrote:

Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Scamanda, when you traded the dualis for a tow vehicle, what did you get to tow ? 

I stuck with Nissan acacia and went for the Navara D40. 4 cylinder turbo diesel.
Power to burn and equivalent to a commodore in fuel economy.

Very happy with it to date.

Dual cab ?

Dual cab and the Thai chassis.

The chassis built in Spain rust and break.

That is interesting you would think it would be the other way around. good research to find that out, I cannot understand how a company like Nissan has such slack, varying quality control.
Is the chassis replaced free, guess it would be very expensive, and how long does it normally take to break , well past warranty date no doubt ?

It isn't just the Navaras that can break a chassis. Most dual cabs have the same problem.
The rust is because of the steel used in Europe from what I've read. And the broken chassis aren't all because of rust. Poor towing practices are a contributing factor. Too much weight will break any chassis.


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Triton.

This one a Navara.

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But the Spanish built Navara has the worst record.
The Thai built chassis is as close to perfect you will find for a dual cab.
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Maybe they use inferior Chinese steel in Europe Shocked

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