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And wins again. I think this horse could develop into something capable of giving the Waller trained euros a run for their money. 
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Won, very short
“Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined”
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Race 1 Seymour 1300m. 

Yak  
Animal Kingdom (USA)
Chestnut 2008
Leroidesanimaux
Chestnut 2000
Candy Stripes
Chestnut 1982
Blushing Groom
Chestnut 1974
Red God
Runaway Bride
1954
1962
8-c
22-d
Bubble Company
Chestnut 1977
Lyphard
Prodice
1969
1969
17-b
1-b
Dissemble
Chestnut 1989
Ahonoora
Chestnut 1975
Lorenzaccio
Helen Nichols
1965
1966
5-h
1-m
Kerali
Chestnut 1984
High Line
Sookera
1966
1975
5-e
11>
Dalicia
Bay 2001
Acatenango
Chestnut 1982
Surumu
Chestnut 1974
Literat
Surama
1965
1970
7-b
19>
Aggravate
Bay 1966
Aggressor
Raven Locks
1955
1945
10-d
11-a
Dynamis
Bay 1991
Dancing Brave
Bay 1983
Lyphard
Navajo Princess
1969
1974
17-b
3-d
Diasprina
Bay 1986
Aspros
Dorle
1977
1974
7-f
1-h
Never Fade (GB)
Bay 2008
Dansili
Bay or brown 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Hasili
Bay 1991
Kahyasi
Bay 1985
Ile de Bourbon
Kadissya
1975
1979
4-i
5-e
Kerali
Chestnut 1984
High Line
Sookera
1966
1975
5-e
11>
Shining Bright
Bay or brown 1989
Rainbow Quest
Bay 1981
Blushing Groom
Chestnut 1974
Red God
Runaway Bride
1954
1962
8-c
22-d
I Will Follow
Bay 1975
Herbager
Where You Lead
1956
1970
16-c
14-f
Bourbon Girl
Bay 1984
Ile de Bourbon
Bay 1975
Nijinsky
Roseliere
1967
1965
8-f
4-i
Fleet Girl
Chestnut 1975
Habitat
Fleet Noble
1966
1970
4-r
4-m
 Ancestor duplications:Blushing Groom4m x 4m Lyphard5f,5m x Kerali4f x 4f 
  Ile de Bourbonx 5m,4f


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Originally posted by kavg kavg wrote:

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You must be slipping or maybe it's been the hectic spring carnival (Wink ) but how did you miss this one-Wolfe. I can't post the pedigree but by Novellist from a Sunday Silence mare with a common tail line to Dunaden. Just saw it's debut at Kembla over 1400m and looked impressive for a 1st starter. Runs in 7th today at hawkesbury over 1600m.


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WOLFE (JPN)Chestnut colt 2015 
Novellist
Bay or brown 2009
Monsun
Bay or brown 1990
Konigsstuhl
Brown 1976
Dschingis Khan
Brown 1961
Tamerlane
Donna Diana
1952
1956
1-e
6-e
Konigskronung
Brown 1965
Tiepoletto
Kronung
1956
1957
2-c
5-h
Mosella
Bay 1985
Surumu
Chestnut 1974
Literat
Surama
1965
1970
7-b
19>
Monasia
Bay 1979
Authi
Monacensia
1970
1969
14-b
8-a
Night Lagoon
Bay 2001
Lagunas
Bay or brown 1981
Ile de Bourbon
Bay 1975
Nijinsky
Roseliere
1967
1965
8-f
4-i
Liranga
Chestnut 1973
Literat
Love In
1965
1966
7-b
9-e
Nenuphar
Bay 1994
Night Shift
Bay 1980
Northern Dancer
Ciboulette
1961
1961
2-d
4-g
Narola
Bay or brown 1989
Nebos
Nubia
1976
1982
4-r
4-r
Peace of World
Bay 2000
Sunday Silence
Brown 1986
Halo
Bay or brown 1969
Hail to Reason
Brown 1958
Turn-To
Nothirdchance
1951
1948
1-w
4-n
Cosmah
Bay 1953
Cosmic Bomb
Almahmoud
1944
1947
14-f
2-d
Wishing Well
Bay 1975
Understanding
Chestnut 1963
Promised Land
Pretty Ways
1954
1953
14-b
1-g
Mountain Flower
Bay 1964
Montparnasse
Edelweiss
1956
1959
19>
3-e
Vivante Meule
Bay or brown 1992
Caerleon
Bay 1980
Nijinsky
Bay 1967
Northern Dancer
Flaming Page
1961
1959
2-d
8-f
Foreseer
Bay or brown 1969
Round Table
Regal Gleam
1954
1964
2-f
1-s
Muffitys
Bay 1982
Thatch
Bay 1970
Forli
Thong
1963
1964
3-b
5-h
Contrail
Grey 1968
Roan Rocket
Azurine
1961
1957
13-c
4-d
 Ancestor duplications:Literat5m,5f x Nijinsky5m x 4m Northern Dancer5m x 5m


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kavg, I have just wast watched Wolfe for the first time and I like both his starts so far. He has looked awesome. 




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Agree Djebel, will be interesting to see where they take him from here. Given his pedigree it is a surprise that he is showing speed over 1400-1600m. Can't wait to see him over longer.

Re the gelding-he must have had some issues. Was initially trained in Japan. Then sent to Freddie(?) Head in France before ultimately coming down here. Never reached the racetrack so something must have been wrong. Not sure at what stage he was gelded.

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Similar story to Hush Writer who I dare say the next time we see will be gelded. 


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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Race 6 Newcastle 

WRISTBAND (AUS)Bay colt 2015 
Dansili
Bay or brown 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Pas de Nom
Bay or brown 1968
Admiral's Voyage
Petitioner
1959
1952
4-n
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Bay 1968
Ribot
Flower Bowl
1952
1952
4-l
4-d
Spring Adieu
Bay 1974
Buckpasser
Natalma
1963
1957
1-s
2-d
Hasili
Bay 1991
Kahyasi
Bay 1985
Ile de Bourbon
Bay 1975
Nijinsky
Roseliere
1967
1965
8-f
4-i
Kadissya
Bay 1979
Blushing Groom
Kalkeen
1974
1974
22-d
5-e
Kerali
Chestnut 1984
High Line
Chestnut 1966
High Hat
Time Call
1957
1955
2-o
5-e
Sookera
Bay or brown 1975
Roberto
Irule
1969
1968
12-c
11>
Aliante
Chestnut 2009
Sir Percy
Bay 2003
Mark of Esteem
Bay 1993
Darshaan
Brown 1981
Shirley Heights
Delsy
1975
1972
1-l
13-c
Homage
Bay 1989
Ajdal
Home Love
1984
1976
7>
17-b
Percy's Lass
Bay or brown 1984
Blakeney
Bay 1966
Hethersett
Windmill Girl
1959
1961
21-a
20-c
Laughing Girl
Bay 1973
Sassafras
Violetta
1967
1958
8-c
3-c
Alexandrine
Bay 1997
Nashwan
Chestnut 1986
Blushing Groom
Chestnut 1974
Red God
Runaway Bride
1954
1962
8-c
22-d
Height of Fashion
Bay 1979
Bustino
Highclere
1971
1971
1-w
2-f
Alruccaba
Grey 1983
Crystal Palace
Grey 1974
Caro
Hermieres
1967
1958
3-o
10-e
Allara
Grey 1973
Zeddaan
Nucciolina
1965
1957
11-g
9-c
 Ancestor duplications:Natalma5m,5f x Blushing Groom5f x 4m

Having his 3rd start tomorrow night over 1550m.

He is trained by Australiia's second biggest trainer.

I am sorry but our trainers are just not up to the task.




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D'you ever consider that training methods have to be different in different parts of the world? Archie Alexander exemplifies what you love in a trainer, he gets good stock and goes pretty average.
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Originally posted by Speediskey Speediskey wrote:

D'you ever consider that training methods have to be different in different parts of the world? Archie Alexander exemplifies what you love in a trainer, he gets good stock and goes pretty average.


Does he get good stock ?


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Have you also ever considered that breeding alone does not determine what distance range suits a horse?
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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Have you also ever considered that breeding alone does not determine what distance range suits a horse?


Just keep defending the indefensible


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You should take up training djebel, you could have a yard full of colts bred to run staying trip and clean up all of our trainers that you're convinced have no idea how to train stayers, ever thought of trying this?
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A Redoute's CHoice won over 3200m in France yesterday.
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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

You should take up training djebel, you could have a yard full of colts bred to run staying trip and clean up all of our trainers that you're convinced have no idea how to train stayers, ever thought of trying this?


The argument presented when you do not have an answer.


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Whether he wins tonight or not does not really matter. He and Fifty Stars and many many others are bred to stay and have shown the type of speed top class stayers should display.


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I just think you need to stop believing they are stayers just on breeding, there are plenty of examples of horses excelling at a distance race that defies their breeding.

You may be right about our trainers belief that a horse to slow to be a sprinter is a stayer and a speedy horwe is automatically a sprinter but.
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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

I just think you need to stop believing they are stayers just on breeding, there are plenty of examples of horses excelling at a distance race that defies their breeding.

You may be right about our trainers belief that a horse to slow to be a sprinter is a stayer and a speedy horwe is automatically a sprinter but.


When you say plenty it is actually a minute percentage.

The vast majority of horses trained and educated properly will perform to their pedigree.



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Based on what evidence?
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The race course of the world.



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MOON PANTHER (AUS)Brown gelding 2015 
So You Think
Bay 2006
High Chaparral
Bay 1999
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Kasora
Brown 1993
Darshaan
Brown 1981
Shirley Heights
Delsy
1975
1972
1-l
13-c
Kozana
Brown 1982
Kris
Koblenza
1976
1966
2-o
1-n
Triassic
Bay 1990
Tights
Bay 1981
Nijinsky
Bay 1967
Northern Dancer
Flaming Page
1961
1959
2-d
8-f
Dancealot
Bay 1971
Round Table
Music Please
1954
1963
2-f
16-g
Astral Row
Brown 1979
Long Row
Brown 1970
Linacre
Front Row
1960
1965
15-a
42>
Pak Bun Bay
Bay 1970
Matinee Idol
Philipolo
1956
1960
13-e
13-a
Dance on the Moon
Bay 2001
Fasliyev
Bay 1997
Nureyev
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Special
Bay 1969
Forli
Thong
1963
1964
3-b
5-h
Mr P's Princess
Bay 1993
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Anne Campbell
Bay 1973
Never Bend
Repercussion
1960
1966
19-b
16-g
Band of Angels
Bay 1995
Alzao
Bay 1980
Lyphard
Bay 1969
Northern Dancer
Goofed
1961
1960
2-d
17-b
Lady Rebecca
Bay 1971
Sir Ivor
Pocahontas
1965
1955
8-g
9-h
Rose of Jericho
Bay 1984
Alleged
Bay 1974
Hoist the Flag
Princess Pout
1968
1966
5-i
2-s
Rose Red
Chestnut 1979
Northern Dancer
Cambrienne
1961
1969
2-d
1-t
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m,5m x 4m,5m,5f Special5f x 4m


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Written Tycoon colt in the ring right now.



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