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I had some good wins with Purple.  Taoina dam of Sovereign Red and Gurners Lane...  That said probably a miler.
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DIAPASON (NZ)Bay filly 2012 
Shocking
Bay 2005
Street Cry
Bay or brown 1998
Machiavellian
Bay or brown 1987
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Coup de Folie
Bay 1982
Halo
Raise the Standard
1969
1978
2-d
2-d
Helen Street
Bay 1982
Troy
Bay 1976
Petingo
La Milo
1965
1963
22>
1-b
Waterway
Chestnut 1976
Riverman
Boulevard
1969
1968
10-a
1-l
Maria di Castiglia
Bay 1994
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Macrina Pompea
Chestnut 1985
Don Roberto
Chestnut 1977
Roberto
Exit Smiling
1969
1970
12-c
1-s
Morbella
Bay 1977
Silly Season
Right Bank
1962
1967
1-g
2-o
Musicanna
Bay 2001
Cape Cross
Bay or brown 1994
Green Desert
Bay 1983
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Foreign Courier
Bay 1979
Sir Ivor
Courtly Dee
1965
1968
8-g
A4
Park Appeal
Bay or brown 1982
Ahonoora
Chestnut 1975
Lorenzaccio
Helen Nichols
1965
1966
5-h
1-m
Balidaress
Grey 1973
Balidar
Innocence
1966
1968
8-d
14-c
Upend
Bay 1985
Main Reef
Chestnut 1976
Mill Reef
Bay 1968
Never Bend
Milan Mill
1960
1962
19-b
22-d
Lovely Light
Chestnut 1966
Henry the Seventh
Queen of Light
1958
1949
12-f
1-s
Gay Charlotte
Bay 1971
Charlottown
Bay 1963
Charlottesville
Meld
1957
1952
14-a
2-i
Merry Mate
Bay 1963
Ballymoss
Gladness
1954
1953
2-u
7-a
 Ancestor duplications:Danzig4m x 4m
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Flaming Fast in the 3rd at Terang.

1200m as a midseason 3yo filly might be a little short but is such a succulent pedigree she is worth having a little eachway on her at the likely price.

The colted stablemate is also worth a try as he drifts in the market.

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Of course as a mid season 3yo filly she kicks of over 1200m on a cement surface.

We wonder why our horses are not world class stayers ?

 
SUPEREGO (AUS)Bay filly 2014 
So You Think
Bay 2006
High Chaparral
Bay 1999
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Kasora
Brown 1993
Darshaan
Brown 1981
Shirley Heights
Delsy
1975
1972
1-l
13-c
Kozana
Brown 1982
Kris
Koblenza
1976
1966
2-o
1-n
Triassic
Bay 1990
Tights
Bay 1981
Nijinsky
Bay 1967
Northern Dancer
Flaming Page
1961
1959
2-d
8-f
Dancealot
Bay 1971
Round Table
Music Please
1954
1963
2-f
16-g
Astral Row
Brown 1979
Long Row
Brown 1970
Linacre
Front Row
1960
1965
15-a
42>
Pak Bun Bay
Bay 1970
Matinee Idol
Philipolo
1956
1960
13-e
13-a
Keep de Fortune
Bay 2006
Galileo
Bay 1998
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Urban Sea
Chestnut 1989
Miswaki
Chestnut 1978
Mr Prospector
Hopespringseternal
1970
1971
13-c
16-g
Allegretta
Chestnut 1978
Lombard
Anatevka
1967
1969
1-d
9-h
Danendri
Bay 1993
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Stormy Exchange
Bay or brown 1985
Storm Bird
Bay 1978
Northern Dancer
South Ocean
1961
1967
2-d
4-j
Copperama
Brown 1978
Comeram
Old Penny
1973
1971
9-f
19>
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m,5m x 4m,5m,5m Sadler's Wells3m x 3m
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Ballarat today- Race 1 No 6 : MR WORLDWIDE

3yo by AMERICAIN (Melb Cup winner) out of a mare by AZZAAM (Sydney Cup winner).

Trained by Matt Cumani, debuted with a 4th over 1700m at Geelong and is 2nd up over 2300m today.
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MR WORLDWIDE (AUS)Grey gelding 2014 
Americain
Bay or brown 2005
Dynaformer
Bay or brown 1985
Roberto
Bay 1969
Hail to Reason
Brown 1958
Turn-To
Nothirdchance
1951
1948
1-w
4-n
Bramalea
Bay or brown 1959
Nashua
Rarelea
1952
1949
3-m
12-c
Andover Way
Bay or brown 1978
His Majesty
Bay 1968
Ribot
Flower Bowl
1952
1952
4-l
4-d
On the Trail
Bay 1964
Olympia
Golden Trail
1946
1958
4-p
4-r
America
Chestnut 1997
Arazi
Chestnut 1989
Blushing Groom
Chestnut 1974
Red God
Runaway Bride
1954
1962
8-c
22-d
Danseur Fabuleux
Bay 1982
Northern Dancer
Fabuleux Jane
1961
1974
2-d
7>
Green Rosy
Bay or brown 1984
Green Dancer
Bay 1972
Nijinsky
Green Valley
1967
1967
8-f
16-c
Round the Rosie
Bay 1973
Cornish Prince
Rosayya
1962
1952
1-s
1-n
Paris Song
Grey 1999
Azzaam
Grey 1987
Chief's Crown
Bay 1982
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Six Crowns
Chestnut 1976
Secretariat
Chris Evert
1970
1971
2-s
23-b
Princess Oola
Roan 1978
Al Hattab
Grey 1966
The Axe
Abyssinia
1958
1953
1-s
7-a
Courtly Dee
Bay or brown 1968
Never Bend
Tulle
1960
1950
19-b
A4
Lover's Lyric
Bay 1987
Zoning
Grey 1980
Zephyr Bay
Brown 1970
Biscay
Heavenly Wind
1965
1958
2-o
22-b
Pre Empt
Grey 1975
Battle-Waggon
Happy Fire
1962
1959
3-o
12-g
Morning Serenade
Bay or brown 1979
Mark Anthony
Grey 1972
Supreme Sovereign
Philene
1964
1961
7>
2-n
Sing Again
Chestnut 1973
Recalled
Chelise
1967
1962
1-i
8-j
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5f x 5m
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they look to need at least 2000m.

Interesting Derby/Oaks next season.....they should start to come to the fore
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Race 3 at Nowra today over 2200m - THE MIST

By excellent stamina stallion Raise The Flag from the famous old “THE” family that yielded the likes of The Phantom, The Phantom Chance, The Penny, The Twinkle and many others.
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think it might lose the protest but a bloody good run - might be one to follow. I thought the ride needed a bit more patience considering it was his second run back and a big step up in distance
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Originally posted by Lord Hybrow Lord Hybrow wrote:

Race 3 at Nowra today over 2200m - THE MIST

By excellent stamina stallion Raise The Flag from the famous old “THE” family that yielded the likes of The Phantom, The Phantom Chance, The Penny, The Twinkle and many others.

Ripper.....Protest dismissed

It was a tough effort given she was stepping up from 1400m to 2200m. Hopefully a nice racing career ahead for this girl.
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Anacott Steel filly 2011  
Tavistock (NZ)
Bay 2005
Montjeu
Bay 1996
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Floripedes
Bay 1985
Top Ville
Bay 1976
High Top
Sega Ville
1969
1968
11-a
8-i
Toute Cy
Bay 1979
Tennyson
Adele Toumignon
1970
1971
1-t
1-u
Upstage
Bay 1998
Quest for Fame
Bay or brown 1987
Rainbow Quest
Bay 1981
Blushing Groom
I Will Follow
1974
1975
22-d
14-f
Aryenne
Bay 1977
Green Dancer
Americaine
1972
1968
16-c
4-i
Pedestal
Chestnut 1986
High Line
Chestnut 1966
High Hat
Time Call
1957
1955
2-o
5-e
Mrs Moss
Chestnut 1969
Reform
Golden Plate
1964
1964
5-h
14-b
Penny Bright (NZ)
Brown 2006
Pentire
Bay 1992
Be My Guest
Chestnut 1974
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
What a Treat
Bay or brown 1962
Tudor Minstrel
Rare Treat
1944
1952
9-c
8-c
Gull Nook
Bay 1983
Mill Reef
Bay 1968
Never Bend
Milan Mill
1960
1962
19-b
22-d
Bempton
Bay 1976
Blakeney
Hardiemma
1966
1969
20-c
1-l
Bright Beauty
Brown 1998
O'Reilly
Brown 1993
Last Tycoon
Bay or brown 1983
Try My Best
Mill Princess
1975
1977
8-f
8-c
Courtza
Bay 1986
Pompeii Court
Hunza
1977
1970
1-p
13-b
Splash of Beauty
Chestnut 1990
Luskin Star
Chestnut 1974
Kaoru Star
Promising
1965
1968
31>
2-e
Vanotrice
Bay 1980
Vain
Toltrice
1966
1969
A10
43>
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m x 4m       


Just ran behind the placings in the 900m 2yo scamper at Sandown.

Bound to improve over further. Oaks filly.



Still going and about to go around again and is yet to see a staying trip. 


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St Leger pedigree running in the 1700m race.

ARKAMUN (AUS)Bay or brown gelding 2014 
Starcraft
Chestnut 2000
Soviet Star
Bay 1984
Nureyev
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Special
Bay 1969
Forli
Thong
1963
1964
3-b
5-h
Veruschka
Bay 1967
Venture
Brown 1957
Relic
Rose o' Lynn
1945
1944
8-f
7>
Marie d'Anjou
Chestnut 1954
Vandale
Marigold
1943
1947
3-c
9-f
Flying Floozie
Chestnut 1993
Pompeii Court
Bay 1977
Tell
Bay 1966
Round Table
Nas-Mahal
1954
1959
2-f
2-f
Port Damascus
Bay 1971
Damascus
Paris Pike
1964
1957
8-h
1-p
Lucky Heiress
Bay 1976
Battle-Waggon
Chestnut 1962
Never Say Die
Carrozza
1951
1954
1-n
3-o
Entrancing Bell
Bay 1965
Bellborough
Entrancing
1954
1945
21-a
4-d
Drawbridge
Bay 1998
Rainbow Quest
Bay 1981
Blushing Groom
Chestnut 1974
Red God
Chestnut 1954
Nasrullah
Spring Run
1940
1948
9-c
8-c
Runaway Bride
Bay 1962
Wild Risk
Aimee
1940
1957
3-f
22-d
I Will Follow
Bay 1975
Herbager
Bay 1956
Vandale
Flagette
1943
1951
3-c
16-c
Where You Lead
Chestnut 1970
Raise a Native
Noblesse
1961
1960
8-f
14-f
City Fortress
Roan 1983
Troy
Bay 1976
Petingo
Bay 1965
Petition
Alcazar
1944
1957
16-g
22>
La Milo
Chestnut 1963
Hornbeam
Pin Prick
1953
1955
1-p
1-b
Queen's Castle
Bay 1969
Sovereign Path
Grey 1956
Grey Sovereign
Mountain Path
1948
1948
6-f
4-l
Country House
Bay 1955
Vieux Manoir
Miss Coventry
1947
1943
10-e
5-h
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MICKEY BLUE EYES (AUS)Bay or brown colt 2015 
Medaglia d'Oro
Bay or brown 1999
El Prado
Grey 1989
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Lady Capulet
Grey 1974
Sir Ivor
Bay 1965
Sir Gaylord
Attica
1959
1953
2-s
8-g
Cap and Bells
Grey 1958
Tom Fool
Ghazni
1949
1942
3-j
1-l
Cappucino Bay
Bay 1989
Bailjumper
Bay 1974
Damascus
Bay 1964
Sword Dancer
Kerala
1956
1958
1-o
8-h
Court Circuit
Bay 1964
Royal Vale
Cycle
1948
1958
9-e
13-c
Dubbed In
Chestnut 1973
Silent Screen
Chestnut 1967
Prince John
Prayer Bell
1953
1954
14-f
9-b
Society Singer
Chestnut 1968
Restless Wind
Social Position
1956
1964
5-g
9-b
Carolina Bella
Bay 2006
Zabeel
Bay 1986
Sir Tristram
Bay 1971
Sir Ivor
Bay 1965
Sir Gaylord
Attica
1959
1953
2-s
8-g
Isolt
Bay 1961
Round Table
All My Eye
1954
1954
2-f
6-e
Lady Giselle
Bay 1982
Nureyev
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Special
1961
1969
2-d
5-h
Valderna
Bay 1972
Val de Loir
Derna
1959
1961
5-h
16-c
Wyndam Special
Brown 1997
Centaine
Brown 1980
Century
Brown 1969
Better Boy
Royal Suite
1951
1960
2-n
20>
Rainbeam
Bay 1973
Vain
Rain Shadow
1966
1967
A10
C7
Mwaared
Bay 1991
Unfuwain
Bay 1985
Northern Dancer
Height of Fashion
1961
1979
2-d
2-f
Nouvelle Star
Chestnut 1980
Luskin Star
Bonne Nouvelle
1974
1971
2-e
6-b
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m x 5m,5m Special5f x 5m Sir Ivor4f x 4m
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Did anyone note that Fastnet Rock (who could hardly stay 1200m) sired the winner of the Sagaro Stakes (2 mile) at Ascot.  Won by five lengths with another three to the third horse.  Beat horses by Motivator, Tamayuz, Yeats, Sea the Stars etc.
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And Torcedoris owned by NZers.
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Also doesn't anyway find it funny that the Queen Mother Memorial Cup over 2400m in HK at the weekend has two Aussie breds, one Irish, one USA, one NZ, one German, one French and on Argentine bred runners.

Who knows they might run last but there are two to one New Zealander so our stayers might be going to Asia.  Who knows.  They do like buying the Queensland Derby winner.
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Our stayers are still here, Our trainers fail to develop them. 

Watch how inconsistent both Furrion and Fifty Stars become under the tutelage of supposedly the best trainer in Australia become.


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SWEETEST EYES (AUS)Bay filly 2014 
Your Song
Brown 2009
Fastnet Rock
Bay 2001
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Piccadilly Circus
Bay 1995
Royal Academy
Bay 1987
Nijinsky
Crimson Saint
1967
1969
8-f
8-c
Gatana
Bay 1989
Marauding
Twigalae
1984
1979
4-i
2-f
Zembu
Bay 1999
Fuji Kiseki
Bay 1992
Sunday Silence
Brown 1986
Halo
Wishing Well
1969
1975
2-d
3-e
Millracer
Bay 1983
Le Fabuleux
Marston's Mill
1961
1975
13-c
22-d
Wanice
Bay 1995
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Jood
Bay 1989
Nijinsky
Kamar
1967
1976
8-f
14-c
Maghreb
Brown 2007
Dubawi
Bay 2002
Dubai Millennium
Bay 1996
Seeking the Gold
Bay 1985
Mr Prospector
Con Game
1970
1974
13-c
5-c
Colorado Dancer
Bay or brown 1986
Shareef Dancer
Fall Aspen
1980
1976
4-r
4-m
Zomaradah
Bay 1995
Deploy
Bay 1987
Shirley Heights
Slightly Dangerous
1975
1979
1-l
14-f
Jawaher
Bay 1989
Dancing Brave
High Tern
1983
1982
3-d
9-e
Danse d'Ecole
Brown 2001
Daylami
Grey 1994
Doyoun
Bay 1985
Mill Reef
Dumka
1968
1971
22-d
21-a
Daltawa
Grey 1989
Miswaki
Damana
1978
1981
16-g
9-e
Dance of Leaves
Bay 1987
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Fairy Bridge
1961
1975
2-d
5-h
Fall Aspen
Chestnut 1976
Pretense
Change Water
1963
1969
3-i
4-m
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Anyone notice the winner of Race 3 at Pakenham today - ALESSANSRO.

Made his debut over 1400m and rounded the field up nicely to win.

He’s by Fiorente out of a Galileo half sister to The Offer, who won a Sydney Cup a few years ago.

It would be nice to see some of these Fiorente’s, Americains & Lucas Cranach’s graduate to Derby’s & Oaks races this season.
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Good call LH.  Star

ps though early doors the word is Fiorente is already proving far more likely to produce stayers with genuine speed than has Americain to date.

Sadly LC will probably struggle re opportunity.


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Not that I think she can win today, check out the awesome breeding on FLAGPOLES in Race 4 at Warwick Farm.

By HIGH CHAPARRAL out of a full sister to Melb Cup winner BREW - whose dam was of course the Japan Cup winner HORLICKS.

That entire ‘FROTH’ damline is just littered with good stayers over the past few decades.

Hopefully FLAGPOLES can ultimately be a late maturing stayer and end up winning a few races herself.
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CHABA CHARLI (AUS)Bay gelding 2014 
Shocking
Bay 2005
Street Cry
Bay or brown 1998
Machiavellian
Bay or brown 1987
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Coup de Folie
Bay 1982
Halo
Raise the Standard
1969
1978
2-d
2-d
Helen Street
Bay 1982
Troy
Bay 1976
Petingo
La Milo
1965
1963
22>
1-b
Waterway
Chestnut 1976
Riverman
Boulevard
1969
1968
10-a
1-l
Maria di Castiglia
Bay 1994
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Macrina Pompea
Chestnut 1985
Don Roberto
Chestnut 1977
Roberto
Exit Smiling
1969
1970
12-c
1-s
Morbella
Bay 1977
Silly Season
Right Bank
1962
1967
1-g
2-o
Honorjeu
Bay 2004
Montjeu
Bay 1996
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Floripedes
Bay 1985
Top Ville
Bay 1976
High Top
Sega Ville
1969
1968
11-a
8-i
Toute Cy
Bay 1979
Tennyson
Adele Toumignon
1970
1971
1-t
1-u
Honor Bound
Brown 1997
Honor Grades
Bay 1988
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Weekend Surprise
Bay 1980
Secretariat
Lassie Dear
1970
1974
2-s
3-l
Amrica
Chestnut 1978
Amalgam
Bay 1972
Damascus
Charming Alibi
1964
1963
8-h
13-c
Fabrica
Chestnut 1966
Oakville
Trinciato
1958
1955
7>
C18
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It's not like Europe doesn't run two year olds.  THey have smaller crops but I think more come out at two.  Just take today.  The entire Irish meeting was mad up of 8 races with 124 runners and 43 first time runners.  And every one was a two year old.  The brits weren't quite as bad they had 8 2yo races today with 88 starters.  We can do that in a day around AUstralia in April but I don't think we have an entire meeting made up of two year olds (with only one race with less than 10 runners - 8 runners).  One had 20 runners another had 19.  Six of the eight races had more than 16 runners.  Doesn't stop them developing stayers.  You can run stayers as two year olds we just seem to have forgotten that despite winning a two year old race you can then as you mature get out over further.
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

It's not like Europe doesn't run two year olds.  THey have smaller crops but I think more come out at two.  Just take today.  The entire Irish meeting was mad up of 8 races with 124 runners and 43 first time runners.  And every one was a two year old.  The brits weren't quite as bad they had 8 2yo races today with 88 starters.  We can do that in a day around AUstralia in April but I don't think we have an entire meeting made up of two year olds (with only one race with less than 10 runners - 8 runners).  One had 20 runners another had 19.  Six of the eight races had more than 16 runners.  Doesn't stop them developing stayers.  You can run stayers as two year olds we just seem to have forgotten that despite winning a two year old race you can then as you mature get out over further.

And amongst that was a 2yo handicap where the spread was 11 kgs 63.5 kgs down to 52.5.

They do not mind their horses carrying weight. 


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Race 6 Newcastle 

WRISTBAND (AUS)Bay colt 2015 
Dansili
Bay or brown 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Pas de Nom
Bay or brown 1968
Admiral's Voyage
Petitioner
1959
1952
4-n
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Bay 1968
Ribot
Flower Bowl
1952
1952
4-l
4-d
Spring Adieu
Bay 1974
Buckpasser
Natalma
1963
1957
1-s
2-d
Hasili
Bay 1991
Kahyasi
Bay 1985
Ile de Bourbon
Bay 1975
Nijinsky
Roseliere
1967
1965
8-f
4-i
Kadissya
Bay 1979
Blushing Groom
Kalkeen
1974
1974
22-d
5-e
Kerali
Chestnut 1984
High Line
Chestnut 1966
High Hat
Time Call
1957
1955
2-o
5-e
Sookera
Bay or brown 1975
Roberto
Irule
1969
1968
12-c
11>
Aliante
Chestnut 2009
Sir Percy
Bay 2003
Mark of Esteem
Bay 1993
Darshaan
Brown 1981
Shirley Heights
Delsy
1975
1972
1-l
13-c
Homage
Bay 1989
Ajdal
Home Love
1984
1976
7>
17-b
Percy's Lass
Bay or brown 1984
Blakeney
Bay 1966
Hethersett
Windmill Girl
1959
1961
21-a
20-c
Laughing Girl
Bay 1973
Sassafras
Violetta
1967
1958
8-c
3-c
Alexandrine
Bay 1997
Nashwan
Chestnut 1986
Blushing Groom
Chestnut 1974
Red God
Runaway Bride
1954
1962
8-c
22-d
Height of Fashion
Bay 1979
Bustino
Highclere
1971
1971
1-w
2-f
Alruccaba
Grey 1983
Crystal Palace
Grey 1974
Caro
Hermieres
1967
1958
3-o
10-e
Allara
Grey 1973
Zeddaan
Nucciolina
1965
1957
11-g
9-c
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NASSIPOUR (USA)Chestnut colt 1980 
Blushing Groom
Chestnut 1974
Red God
Chestnut 1954
Nasrullah
Bay 1940
Nearco
Brown 1935
Pharos
Nogara
1920
1928
13-e
4-r
Mumtaz Begum
Bay 1932
Blenheim
Mumtaz Mahal
1927
1921
1-e
9-c
Spring Run
Bay 1948
Menow
Bay or brown 1935
Pharamond
Alcibiades
1925
1927
6-e
8-g
Boola Brook
Bay 1937
Bull Dog
Brookdale
1927
1921
16-a
8-c
Runaway Bride
Bay 1962
Wild Risk
Bay 1940
Rialto
Chestnut 1923
Rabelais
La Grelee
1900
1918
14-a
12-b
Wild Violet
Bay 1935
Blandford
Wood Violet
1919
1928
3-o
3-f
Aimee
Bay 1957
Tudor Minstrel
Brown 1944
Owen Tudor
Sansonnet
1938
1933
10-b
9-c
Emali
Bay 1945
Umidwar
Eclair
1931
1930
3-e
22-d
Alama
Bay 1969
Aureole
Chestnut 1950
Hyperion
Chestnut 1930
Gainsborough
Bay 1915
Bayardo
Rosedrop
1906
1907
10-a
2-n
Selene
Bay 1919
Chaucer
Serenissima
1900
1913
1-g
6-e
Angelola
Bay 1945
Donatello
Chestnut 1934
Blenheim
Delleana
1927
1925
1-e
14-c
Feola
Brown 1933
Friar Marcus
Aloe
1912
1926
20>
2-f
Nucciolina
Bay 1957
Nuccio
Bay 1948
Traghetto
Chestnut 1942
Cavaliere d'Arpino
Talma
1926
1933
4-p
1-n
Nuvoletta
Bay 1941
Muzio
Neve
1933
1933
16-b
4-j
Mah Behar
Bay 1952
Bois Roussel
Brown 1935
Vatout
Plucky Liege
1926
1912
3-c
16-a
Mah Iran
Grey 1939
Bahram
Mah Mahal
1932
1928
16-a
9-c
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QADIRA (AUS)Bay filly 2015 
Bullet Train
Bay 2007
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Brown 1954
Nearco
Lady Angela
1935
1944
4-r
14-c
Natalma
Bay 1957
Native Dancer
Almahmoud
1950
1947
5-f
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Bay 1968
Hail to Reason
Lalun
1958
1952
4-n
19-b
Special
Bay 1969
Forli
Thong
1963
1964
3-b
5-h
Kind
Bay 2001
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Rainbow Lake
Bay 1990
Rainbow Quest
Bay 1981
Blushing Groom
I Will Follow
1974
1975
22-d
14-f
Rockfest
Chestnut 1979
Stage Door Johnny
Rock Garden
1965
1970
1-l
1-k
Abu Zayan
Bay 2004
Mark of Esteem
Bay 1993
Darshaan
Brown 1981
Shirley Heights
Bay 1975
Mill Reef
Hardiemma
1968
1969
22-d
1-l
Delsy
Brown 1972
Abdos
Kelty
1959
1965
1-e
13-c
Homage
Bay 1989
Ajdal
Bay 1984
Northern Dancer
Native Partner
1961
1966
2-d
7>
Home Love
Bay 1976
Vaguely Noble
Homespun
1965
1969
1-d
17-b
Always Far
Bay or brown 1989
Alydar
Chestnut 1975
Raise a Native
Chestnut 1961
Native Dancer
Raise You
1950
1946
5-f
8-f
Sweet Tooth
Bay 1965
On-And-On
Plum Cake
1956
1958
23-b
9-c
Fairy Footsteps
Bay 1978
Mill Reef
Bay 1968
Never Bend
Milan Mill
1960
1962
19-b
22-d
Glass Slipper
Bay 1969
Relko
Crystal Palace
1960
1956
16-g
1-s
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Hello,
the pedigree of "Wristband" is from a very successful Family branch in Europe. As example see Alborada (Alzao)/Albanova (Alzao), Quartermoon (Sadlers Wells), Yesterday (Sadlers Wells), Diamondsandrubies  (Fastnet Rock), All My Loving (Sadlers Wells), How High the Moon (Fastnet Rock), All at Sea (Sea the Stars), Allegretto (Galileo) etc.
 
Most of the above horses were bred by Mrs. Kirsten Rausing (Lanwades Stud). If I remember correctly
Albanova or her FS won races in Germany.
 
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Hello,
sorry, I forgot to mention, a gelding from the same branch named "(My) Nordic Hero" (by Archipenko) was sent to AUS.
 
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Djebel,
You must be slipping or maybe it's been the hectic spring carnival (Wink ) but how did you miss this one-Wolfe. I can't post the pedigree but by Novellist from a Sunday Silence mare with a common tail line to Dunaden. Just saw it's debut at Kembla over 1400m and looked impressive for a 1st starter. Runs in 7th today at hawkesbury over 1600m.
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