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On quirks, the fillies Sea Of Approval and Ambivalent both wear hoods.
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Back to the original post of "bred to stay" and why Australian racing/owners/trainers don't seem to embrace breeding stayers, it's not hard to work out.

Our filly will have her first start on Saturday as a 3yo. The "owners" who are racing her have only been paying since Feb this year, so the cost of the broodmare, service fee, agistment as a young horse, the breaking in, the insurance and every other cost you can imagine has already been covered.

Without those expenses it has cost $20,000 to get her to the races! And the expectation is that we'll only have a run or two and she'll be out for another spell with an autumn campaign in mind. If she'd been a precocious 2yo Magic Millions sprinter it would have been half that with the added bonus of the possibility of a cheque or two. But where's the fun in that?
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If they race at 3, the cost can be anywhere up to $50- 60k before having their first start. That is a massive amount of input costs!

2 city wins in its first prep may get you to about breakeven.....how hard is that!

Assumes u r paying for agistment. One of the reasons I am looking at NZ. Agistment costs are half that of Aus.
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I also don't find much fun in racing the teenager!
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I'm very keen on Last Wish in the first at Randwick.  They bet $8.00 early, now $6.50 is best.

By Guillotine (Montjeu) out of a Zabeel mare. Doesn't get much stouter than that!

Trained by top trainer Tony McEvoy and last start easy winner over 2400m.  I expect him to improve a couple of lengths off that run.
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Only danger is favourite Georgey Aeroplane.
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Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:

Only danger is favourite Georgey Aeroplane.
Koroibete will be very hard to beat if Fuerza doesn't back up.
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Look at this pedigree. Why was he gelded ?

Why does it seem he is a sprinter ?

Medaglia d'Oro (USA) 
1999, db
El Prado (IRE)
1989, gr
Sadler's Wells (USA)
1981, [CS]
Northern Dancer (CAN)
1961, [BC]
Nearctic (CAN) , 1954, br
Natalma (USA) , 1957, b
Fairy Bridge (USA)
1975, b
Bold Reason (USA) , 1968, b
Special (USA) , 1969, b
Lady Capulet (USA)
1974, ro
Sir Ivor (USA)
1965, [IC]
Sir Gaylord (USA) , 1959, db [IC]
Attica (USA) , 1953, ch
Cap And Bells (USA)
1958, gr
Tom Fool (USA) , 1949, [IC]
Ghazni (USA) , 1942, gr
Cappucino Bay (USA)
1989, b
Bailjumper (USA)
1974, b
Damascus (USA)
1964, [IC]
Sword Dancer (USA) , 1956, ch
Kerala (USA) , 1958, b
Court Circuit (USA)
1964, b
Royal Vale (GB) , 1948, br
Cycle (USA) , 1958, db
Dubbed In (USA)
1973, ch
Silent Screen (USA)
1967, ch
Prince John (USA) , 1953, ch [C]
Prayer Bell (USA) , 1954, b
Society Singer (USA)
1968, ch
Restless Wind (USA) , 1956, ch
Social Position (USA) , 1964, ch
Dawn Attack (IRE)
2003, b
Fantastic Light (USA)
1996, b
Rahy (USA)
1985, ch
Blushing Groom (FR)
1974, ch [BC]
Red God (USA) , 1954, ch
Runaway Bride (GB) , 1962, b
Glorious Song (CAN)
1976, b
Halo (USA) , 1969, db [BC]
Ballade (USA) , 1972, db
Jood (USA)
1989, b
Nijinsky (CAN)
1967, [CS]
Northern Dancer (CAN) , 1961, [BC]
Flaming Page (USA) , 1959, b
Kamar (CAN)
1976, b
Key To The Mint (USA) , 1969, [BC]
Square Angel (CAN) , 1970, b
Sabaah (USA)
1988, ch
Nureyev (USA)
1977, [C]
Northern Dancer (CAN)
1961, [BC]
Nearctic (CAN) , 1954, br
Natalma (USA) , 1957, b
Special (USA)
1969, b
Forli (ARG) , 1963, ch [C]
Thong (USA) , 1964, b
Dish Dash (GB)
1979, b
Bustino (GB)
1971, b
Busted (GB) , 1963, [S]
Ship Yard (GB) , 1963, ch
Loose Cover (GB)
1963, b
Venture VII (GB) , 1957, b
Nymphet (GB) , 1958, ch


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Originally posted by Sneck Sneck wrote:

Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:

Only danger is favourite Georgey Aeroplane.
Koroibete will be very hard to beat if Fuerza doesn't back up.

Your logic being he's better when he leads?  Maybe, but I think he's just unreliable.
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Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:

Originally posted by Sneck Sneck wrote:

Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:

Only danger is favourite Georgey Aeroplane.
Koroibete will be very hard to beat if Fuerza doesn't back up.

Your logic being he's better when he leads?  Maybe, but I think he's just unreliable.
He didn't like being boxed up last start.

When he jumped from in distance he was good.

2000>2000>2400 off a 7 day back up.
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Yeah, I don't disagree with your logic.  I was on him last start and wasn't happy they didn't try harder to lead.  Still, earlier in his career he won from behind.  I just think he's not genuine.
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The Godolphin filly Liturgy having a third run at 1200m.  Should be a 1600-2000m horse??
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Think something went wrong with her coming around the bend.  Question
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Another one likely to be wasted in Australia.

You can not say Darley are not attempting to breed longer distance horses. 

This is also in the maiden race that Esteemed Elegance kicks off her career.



Despite both showing ample speed in their early careers they are both it seems struggling to reach their potential.




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Is there an Aussie horse more bred to stay than Zatopaz? By Zabeel out of a Prized mare and granddam by Noble Bijou. Zatopaz is a half brother to Nom Du Jeu (won AJC Derby). His dam, Prized Gem, won the Brisbane Cup when it was still a G1 run over 3200m.

Remains to be seen how much ability Zatopaz has, but he has steadily improved in his 6 start career and won his first start recently at Gosford over 2600m.
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Zatopaz steps up sharply in grade to the St Leger over 2800m at Flemington on Saturday. One thing's for sure he will run the trip stronger than most.
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Anacott Steel filly 2011  
Tavistock (NZ)
Bay 2005
Montjeu
Bay 1996
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Floripedes
Bay 1985
Top Ville
Bay 1976
High Top
Sega Ville
1969
1968
11-a
8-i
Toute Cy
Bay 1979
Tennyson
Adele Toumignon
1970
1971
1-t
1-u
Upstage
Bay 1998
Quest for Fame
Bay or brown 1987
Rainbow Quest
Bay 1981
Blushing Groom
I Will Follow
1974
1975
22-d
14-f
Aryenne
Bay 1977
Green Dancer
Americaine
1972
1968
16-c
4-i
Pedestal
Chestnut 1986
High Line
Chestnut 1966
High Hat
Time Call
1957
1955
2-o
5-e
Mrs Moss
Chestnut 1969
Reform
Golden Plate
1964
1964
5-h
14-b
Penny Bright (NZ)
Brown 2006
Pentire
Bay 1992
Be My Guest
Chestnut 1974
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
What a Treat
Bay or brown 1962
Tudor Minstrel
Rare Treat
1944
1952
9-c
8-c
Gull Nook
Bay 1983
Mill Reef
Bay 1968
Never Bend
Milan Mill
1960
1962
19-b
22-d
Bempton
Bay 1976
Blakeney
Hardiemma
1966
1969
20-c
1-l
Bright Beauty
Brown 1998
O'Reilly
Brown 1993
Last Tycoon
Bay or brown 1983
Try My Best
Mill Princess
1975
1977
8-f
8-c
Courtza
Bay 1986
Pompeii Court
Hunza
1977
1970
1-p
13-b
Splash of Beauty
Chestnut 1990
Luskin Star
Chestnut 1974
Kaoru Star
Promising
1965
1968
31>
2-e
Vanotrice
Bay 1980
Vain
Toltrice
1966
1969
A10
43>
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m x 4m       


Just ran behind the placings in the 900m 2yo scamper at Sandown.

Bound to improve over further. Oaks filly.



Does anybody know Paul Rocke the trainer of this filly ?

He had her nominated for a listed 1200m at Flemington on Saturday but chose instead to run her over a 1000m at Cranbourne on Friday night.

Despite the massive class difference I would have preferred to see her in the Flemington race. 




Her progeny will be good value when she is retired to stud.

She has been butchered as a racehorse and as such has not reached and will not reach her full potential meaning her foals will be cheaper when sold at sales.




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HIGH SPIRIT (AUS)Bay colt 2012 
High Chaparral
Bay 1999
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Brown 1954
Nearco
Lady Angela
1935
1944
4-r
14-c
Natalma
Bay 1957
Native Dancer
Almahmoud
1950
1947
5-f
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Bay 1968
Hail to Reason
Lalun
1958
1952
4-n
19-b
Special
Bay 1969
Forli
Thong
1963
1964
3-b
5-h
Kasora
Brown 1993
Darshaan
Brown 1981
Shirley Heights
Bay 1975
Mill Reef
Hardiemma
1968
1969
22-d
1-l
Delsy
Brown 1972
Abdos
Kelty
1959
1965
1-e
13-c
Kozana
Brown 1982
Kris
Chestnut 1976
Sharpen Up
Doubly Sure
1969
1971
5-i
2-o
Koblenza
Brown 1966
Hugh Lupus
Kalimara
1952
1960
19>
1-n
Azumi
Bay 2005
Encosta de Lago
Bay 1993
Fairy King
Bay 1982
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Shoal Creek
Chestnut 1988
Star Way
Chestnut 1977
Star Appeal
New Way
1970
1970
5-d
6-e
Rolls
Chestnut 1984
Mr Prospector
Grand Luxe
1970
1974
13-c
4-g
Oceanfast
Bay 1995
Monde Bleu
Bay 1988
Last Tycoon
Bay or brown 1983
Try My Best
Mill Princess
1975
1977
8-f
8-c
Make Plans
Bay 1971
Go Marching
Sister Antoine
1965
1957
16-g
4-r
Affluent
Bay 1983
Shirley Heights
Bay 1975
Mill Reef
Hardiemma
1968
1969
22-d
1-l
Marcela
Chestnut 1972
Reform
Caramel
1964
1964
5-h
19-a
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer3m x 4m Fairy Bridge3m x 4m Shirley Heights4m x 4f


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LIKE YOU LOOK (AUS)
Chestnut colt 2012 
Lookin at Lucky
Bay 2007
Smart Strike
Bay 1992
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Chestnut 1961
Native Dancer
Raise You
1950
1946
5-f
8-f
Gold Digger
Bay 1962
Nashua
Sequence
1952
1946
3-m
13-c
Classy 'n Smart
Bay 1981
Smarten
Bay or brown 1976
Cyane
Smartaire
1959
1962
16-b
A13
No Class
Bay 1974
Nodouble
Classy Quillo
1965
1969
A1
23-b
Private Feeling
Bay 1999
Belong to Me
Bay or brown 1989
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Belonging
Bay 1979
Exclusive Native
Straight Deal
1965
1962
10-a
1-s
Regal Feeling
Bay 1986
Clever Trick
Bay or brown 1976
Icecapade
Kankakee Miss
1969
1967
8-c
9>
Sharp Belle
Roan 1975
Native Charger
Sleek Dancer
1962
1968
8-h
9-f
Embraceable You
Bay 1998
Rodrigo de Triano
Chestnut 1989
El Gran Senor
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Sex Appeal
Chestnut 1970
Buckpasser
Best in Show
1963
1965
1-s
8-f
Hot Princess
Chestnut 1980
Hot Spark
Chestnut 1972
Habitat
Garvey Girl
1966
1960
4-r
1-n
Aspara
Chestnut 1972
Crimson Satan
Courtside
1959
1965
26>
20-a
Coutet
Bay 1987
Nuage d'Or
Chestnut 1982
Nijinsky
Bay 1967
Northern Dancer
Flaming Page
1961
1959
2-d
8-f
Exotic Treat
Chestnut 1971
Vaguely Noble
Rare Treat
1965
1952
1-d
8-c
Tiffany Rose
Grey 1970
Sovereign Edition
Grey 1962
Sovereign Path
Latest Edition
1956
1951
4-l
13-a
Phareno
Bay 1963
Pharamond
Centeno
1957
1949
1-w
11-b
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m x 4m,5m


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Like You Look, unplaced R2 Echuca this morning.
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Debuts over 1200m in NZ in a few minutes.


LEONESSA (NZ)
Bay filly 2013 
Pour Moi
Bay 2008
Montjeu
Bay 1996
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Floripedes
Bay 1985
Top Ville
Bay 1976
High Top
Sega Ville
1969
1968
11-a
8-i
Toute Cy
Bay 1979
Tennyson
Adele Toumignon
1970
1971
1-t
1-u
Gwynn
Bay 1997
Darshaan
Brown 1981
Shirley Heights
Bay 1975
Mill Reef
Hardiemma
1968
1969
22-d
1-l
Delsy
Brown 1972
Abdos
Kelty
1959
1965
1-e
13-c
Victoress
Bay 1984
Conquistador Cielo
Bay 1979
Mr Prospector
K D Princess
1970
1971
13-c
8-h
Royal Statute
Bay 1969
Northern Dancer
Queen's Statute
1961
1954
2-d
22-b
Lioness
Chestnut 2001
Generous
Chestnut 1988
Caerleon
Bay 1980
Nijinsky
Bay 1967
Northern Dancer
Flaming Page
1961
1959
2-d
8-f
Foreseer
Bay or brown 1969
Round Table
Regal Gleam
1954
1964
2-f
1-s
Doff the Derby
Bay 1981
Master Derby
Chestnut 1972
Dust Commander
Madam Jerry
1967
1961
3-j
1-l
Margarethen
Bay or brown 1962
Tulyar
Russ-Marie
1949
1956
22-a
4-n
Blue Satin
Chestnut 1989
Pompeii Court
Bay 1977
Tell
Bay 1966
Round Table
Nas-Mahal
1954
1959
2-f
2-f
Port Damascus
Bay 1971
Damascus
Paris Pike
1964
1957
8-h
1-p
Blue Denim
Bay 1975
A Chara
Bay 1966
Worden
Cannon Ball
1949
1959
13-c
3-o
Blue Carlyle
Bay 1969
Crest of the Wave
Delph Blue
1961
1961
1-e
14-e
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m,5f x 5m Round Tablex 5f,5m


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SHAKARL (AUS)Bay colt 2012 
Nadeem
Bay or brown 2003
Redoute's Choice
Bay 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Shantha's Choice
Bay 1992
Canny Lad
Brown 1987
Bletchingly
Jesmond Lass
1970
1975
7-a
14>
Dancing Show
Bay 1983
Nijinsky
Show Lady
1967
1976
8-f
8-f
Candide
Bay 1984
Sound Reason
Bay or brown 1974
Bold Reason
Bay 1968
Hail to Reason
Lalun
1958
1952
4-n
19-b
New Tune
Bay 1968
New Providence
Song of Victory
1956
1962
9-d
21-a
Country Flower
Brown 1972
Oncidium
Bay 1961
Alcide
Malcolmia
1955
1952
2-f
16-b
Country Girl
Brown 1963
Agricola
Minaea
1956
1956
1-w
18>
Shashzaya
Chestnut 1998
Ashkalani
Chestnut 1993
Soviet Star
Bay 1984
Nureyev
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Special
1961
1969
2-d
5-h
Veruschka
Bay 1967
Venture
Marie d'Anjou
1957
1954
7>
9-f
Ashtarka
Grey 1987
Dalsaan
Bay 1977
Habitat
Dumka
1966
1971
4-r
21-a
Asharaz
Grey 1967
Sicambre
Vareta
1948
1953
7-e
11-g
Shashna
Bay 1982
Blakeney
Bay 1966
Hethersett
Bay 1959
Hugh Lupus
Bride Elect
1952
1952
19>
21-a
Windmill Girl
Bay 1961
Hornbeam
Chorus Beauty
1953
1952
1-p
20-c
Shamim
Chestnut 1968
Le Haar
Chestnut 1954
Vieux Manoir
Mince Pie
1947
1949
10-e
20-a
Diamond Drop
Chestnut 1963
Charlottesville
Martine
1957
1952
14-a
3-o
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m x 5m


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Pour Moi (IRE)
Bay 2008
Montjeu
Bay 1996
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Floripedes
Bay 1985
Top Ville
Bay 1976
High Top
Sega Ville
1969
1968
11-a
8-i
Toute Cy
Bay 1979
Tennyson
Adele Toumignon
1970
1971
1-t
1-u
Gwynn
Bay 1997
Darshaan
Brown 1981
Shirley Heights
Bay 1975
Mill Reef
Hardiemma
1968
1969
22-d
1-l
Delsy
Brown 1972
Abdos
Kelty
1959
1965
1-e
13-c
Victoress
Bay 1984
Conquistador Cielo
Bay 1979
Mr Prospector
K D Princess
1970
1971
13-c
8-h
Royal Statute
Bay 1969
Northern Dancer
Queen's Statute
1961
1954
2-d
22-b
Dominique (NZ)
Bay or brown 2000
Zabeel
Bay 1986
Sir Tristram
Bay 1971
Sir Ivor
Bay 1965
Sir Gaylord
Attica
1959
1953
2-s
8-g
Isolt
Bay 1961
Round Table
All My Eye
1954
1954
2-f
6-e
Lady Giselle
Bay 1982
Nureyev
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Special
1961
1969
2-d
5-h
Valderna
Bay 1972
Val de Loir
Derna
1959
1961
5-h
16-c
Prieur Way
Bay 1990
Star Way
Chestnut 1977
Star Appeal
Bay 1970
Appiani
Sterna
1963
1960
4-f
5-d
New Way
Chestnut 1970
Klairon
New Move
1952
1958
1-w
6-e
Regal Spy
Brown 1983
Sir Ivor
Bay 1965
Sir Gaylord
Attica
1959
1953
2-s
8-g
Belles Oreilles
Chestnut 1968
Nentego
Shining Sun
1962
1962
8-g
4-j
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m,5f x 5m Special5f x 5m Sir Ivorx 4m,4f


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New Approach (IRE)
Chestnut 2005
Galileo
Bay 1998
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Urban Sea
Chestnut 1989
Miswaki
Chestnut 1978
Mr Prospector
Hopespringseternal
1970
1971
13-c
16-g
Allegretta
Chestnut 1978
Lombard
Anatevka
1967
1969
1-d
9-h
Park Express
Bay or brown 1983
Ahonoora
Chestnut 1975
Lorenzaccio
Chestnut 1965
Klairon
Phoenissa
1952
1951
1-w
5-h
Helen Nichols
Chestnut 1966
Martial
Quaker Girl
1957
1961
2-e
1-m
Matcher
Brown 1966
Match
Brown 1958
Tantieme
Relance
1947
1952
20-a
16-g
Lachine
Bay 1960
Grey Sovereign
Loved One
1948
1947
6-f
19-b
Wild Iris (AUS)
Bay 2000
Spectrum
Bay 1992
Rainbow Quest
Bay 1981
Blushing Groom
Chestnut 1974
Red God
Runaway Bride
1954
1962
8-c
22-d
I Will Follow
Bay 1975
Herbager
Where You Lead
1956
1970
16-c
14-f
River Dancer
Bay 1983
Irish River
Chestnut 1976
Riverman
Irish Star
1969
1960
10-a
1-w
Dancing Shadow
Bay 1977
Dancer's Image
Sunny Valley
1965
1972
4-r
1-l
Wild Violet
Bay 1992
Archregent
Bay 1981
Vice Regent
Chestnut 1967
Northern Dancer
Victoria Regina
1961
1958
2-d
10-c
Respond
Bay 1968
Canadian Champ
Reply
1953
1951
9-b
4-g
Fiancee
Brown 1977
Baguette
Brown 1967
Rego
Dark Jewel
1949
1953
5-d
6-c
Attentive
Brown 1961
Wilkes
Stewardess
1952
1953
13-c
2-d
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m x 5m


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Just shows how mixed up Australian Breeding is the above a few generations back would of been breed entirely for speed.  With Fiancee and Attentive both Gimcrack winners.
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Just managed to hold on after having the gun run.

Famous Tate family colours, Never heard of the trainer.




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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Just shows how mixed up Australian Breeding is the above a few generations back would of been breed entirely for speed.  With Fiancee and Attentive both Gimcrack winners.

Was going to say, Despite being by a Derby winner out of an Oaks winner he not necessarily bred to stay. 


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TOGA PICTA (AUS)Brown colt 2014 
Lonhro
Brown 1998
Octagonal
Brown 1992
Zabeel
Bay 1986
Sir Tristram
Bay 1971
Sir Ivor
Isolt
1965
1961
8-g
6-e
Lady Giselle
Bay 1982
Nureyev
Valderna
1977
1972
5-h
16-c
Eight Carat
Brown 1975
Pieces of Eight
Brown 1963
Relic
Baby Doll
1945
1956
8-f
3-o
Klairessa
Bay or brown 1969
Klairon
Courtessa
1952
1955
1-w
9-c
Shadea
Bay 1988
Straight Strike
Bay or brown 1977
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Bend Not
Bay 1972
Never Bend
Jennie Sue
1960
1961
19-b
11>
Concia
Bay 1978
First Consul
Bay 1970
Forli
Bold Consort
1963
1960
3-b
5-f
My Tricia
Brown 1974
Hermes
Gay Poss
1963
1966
11-d
8>
Purple
Brown 2005
Commands
Bay 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Cotehele House
Brown or black 1980
My Swanee
Grey 1963
Petition
Grey Rhythm
1944
1954
16-g
8-j
Eight Carat
Brown 1975
Pieces of Eight
Klairessa
1963
1969
3-o
9-c
Lady Viola
Bay 1997
Zabeel
Bay 1986
Sir Tristram
Bay 1971
Sir Ivor
Isolt
1965
1961
8-g
6-e
Lady Giselle
Bay 1982
Nureyev
Valderna
1977
1972
5-h
16-c
Scarlet Robin
Bay 1980
First Consul
Bay 1970
Forli
Bold Consort
1963
1960
3-b
5-f
Taiona
Brown 1972
Sovereign Edition
Vickyjoy
1962
1965
13-a
7-d
 Ancestor duplications:Zabeel3m x 3f Eight Carat3m x 4f First Consul4f x 4f


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