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Is that just a study in chestnutness? Wouldn't think anything with both Woodman and Machiavellian in it would want to go more than 8-10f.

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Oh, right, found it.  Winner at less than 5f.
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Dang, 2m h'cap at Newmarket, and we've only got 10 horses left to run in it.
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Zephyron, 5yo gelding trained by team Hawkes.  By Zabeel out of Diamond Like (Danehill), granddam Tristalove (Sir Tristram), great granddam Diamond Lover and great great Granddam the legendary Eight Carat.  Not only is Zephyron bred to stay, he's a blueblood.  Tristalove and Diamond Lover were group 1 winners and produces multiple stakeswinners at stud.  Diamond Like was only lightly races but won at listed level.  So far Diamond Like has had four foals to race and they have all won in the city, including Miss Zenella (full sister to Zephyron) who finished second in the 2013 Qld Oaks.  Although a 5yo, Zephron is very lightly raced.  Last start he won a 1500m race at Rosehill at $31.  While the odds suggest an upset, clearly it should be no surprise on his breeding.  He should continue to improve as he steps up in distance.  He's nommed in a 1600m race at Randwick on Saturday where he may be up against Pendolin, a horse I highlighted earlier in tis thread.  Zephyron is definitely a horse to follow.
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Apart from Octagonal getting 2400m does the family really stay ?

Tristalove sstayed well enough in South Australian company.

I tend to think the family is more 1200-2000m.


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Absolutely a staying family.  Diamond Lover produced Don Eduardo (ATC Derby).  Tristalove produced Kempinsky (2nd VRC Derby).  Diamond Like produced Miss Zenella (2nd Qld Oaks).
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Why is Zephyron lightly raced though? He a $2m yearling if I recall correctly. Soundness issues?
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He had an 18 month spell, so must have had a major soundness issue.
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Zephyron is a dual acceptor for Saturday.  I always consider this is a positive factor.
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Zanbagh by Berbardini sire of 7 winners (20%) 2400 - 2500M. And a few at much longer trips in Europe.
Dam Wild Iris won an AJC Oaks 2400M. By Spectrum who has sired many staying winners in Europe.

Should handle the VRC Oaks trip on her ear.

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In the racing post database, most of bernadini's winners are 7-9f.  However, that only includes a few of his progeny.  Of the very few that have attempted it, the record is good at 12 & 14f.
3-8 at 12-13f, and 1-2 at 16+f.
Two of those 4 wins were by Bordoni, an ordinary handicapper, descended from Allez France (!) and having Sadlers Wells as damsire.

If Bernardini has a good record at 12+f in Australia, it looks like a case of in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.







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14+f, not 16+f.
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 ARANMORE (NZ)Bay colt 2010 
O'Reilly
Brown 1993
Last Tycoon
Bay or brown 1983
Try My Best
Bay 1975
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Sex Appeal
Chestnut 1970
Buckpasser
Best in Show
1963
1965
1-s
8-f
Mill Princess
Bay 1977
Mill Reef
Bay 1968
Never Bend
Milan Mill
1960
1962
19-b
22-d
Irish Lass
Bay 1962
Sayajirao
Scollata
1944
1952
3-n
8-c
Courtza
Bay 1986
Pompeii Court
Bay 1977
Tell
Bay 1966
Round Table
Nas-Mahal
1954
1959
2-f
2-f
Port Damascus
Bay 1971
Damascus
Paris Pike
1964
1957
8-h
1-p
Hunza
Brown 1970
Pakistan
Chestnut 1958
Palestine
Tambara
1947
1947
3-e
6-d
Chatty Lady
Bay 1961
Chatsworth
Glamin
1950
1952
21-a
13-b
Fleece
Bay 2002
Daylami
Grey 1994
Doyoun
Bay 1985
Mill Reef
Bay 1968
Never Bend
Milan Mill
1960
1962
19-b
22-d
Dumka
Bay 1971
Kashmir
Faizebad
1963
1962
9-c
21-a
Daltawa
Grey 1989
Miswaki
Chestnut 1978
Mr Prospector
Hopespringseternal
1970
1971
13-c
16-g
Damana
Grey 1981
Crystal Palace
Denia
1974
1973
10-e
9-e
Gold Dodger
Bay or brown 1994
Slew o' Gold
Bay 1980
Seattle Slew
Bay or brown 1974
Bold Reasoning
My Charmer
1968
1969
1-k
13-c
Alluvial
Chestnut 1969
Buckpasser
Bayou
1963
1954
1-s
9-f
Brooklyn's Dance
Bay or brown 1988
Shirley Heights
Bay 1975
Mill Reef
Hardiemma
1968
1969
22-d
1-l
Vallee Dansante
Bay 1981
Lyphard
Green Valley
1969
1967
17-b
16-c
 Ancestor duplications:Buckpasser5f x 5f Mill Reef4f x 4m,5m    


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Despite being by Mt Prospector, Miswaki appears in quite a few staying pedigrees.
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Quite a few of those Miswakis will be via being the sire of Urban Sea, I suppose.

Urban Sea getting a lot of her stamina via Allegretta.

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Here's an odd one - Shamexpress!  By O'Reilly out of a Volksraad mare and granddam by Grosvenor.  Granddam had one foal to race in Australia and it won over 2000m.  Great granddam only had two to race, one won over 2400m, the other also ran creditably at 2400m.  So far Shamexpress has been tried three times at 1400m and has failed each time.  Go figure.
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Packing Empire - by High Chaparral out of a Kaapstad mare and granddam by Sound Reason.  Half brother to Prince Dande Lion (3 wins all at 2400m, 4th Sydney Cup 3200m).  So far Packing Empire has only won his maiden (2400m).  Entered in Sandown Cup 3200m on Saturday.  May lack the class of his opposition but should stay the trip.  May be a good place bet.
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Star Of Tralee - by Zabeel out of Rose Of Tralee (by Sadlers Wells).  Rose Of Tralee won over 2800m in Sydney.  Star Of Tralee is a half sister to Serenade Rose (won VRC and ATC Oaks) and Irish Rhapsody (won at 2400m).  Great staying pedigree, the only problem is Star Of Tralee doesn't seem to possess much ability.  Either that or David Hayes is unable to produce it.  Also goes around in the Sandown Cup on Saturday.  Will stay the trip but may need 4200m.  Perhaps a jumping career?
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Cry Havoc.  By noted sire of stayers, Savabeel out of a Redoutes Choice mare.  Maternal grandsire is another noted staying influence in Star Way.  Classy stayers in the family include Dupain (Brisbane Cup) and Tristanagh (VRC Oaks).
 
Been leading and winning in sprint races, but bred to go much further.  Definitely one to keep an eye on.  Going around in race 4 at Kensington tomorrow.
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BUSH PILOT (AUS)Bay filly 2010 
Henrythenavigator
Bay or brown 2005
Kingmambo
Bay 1990
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Chestnut 1961
Native Dancer
Raise You
1950
1946
5-f
8-f
Gold Digger
Bay 1962
Nashua
Sequence
1952
1946
3-m
13-c
Miesque
Bay 1984
Nureyev
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Special
1961
1969
2-d
5-h
Pasadoble
Bay 1979
Prove Out
Santa Quilla
1969
1970
4-c
20>
Sequoyah
Bay 1998
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Brigid
Chestnut 1991
Irish River
Chestnut 1976
Riverman
Irish Star
1969
1960
10-a
1-w
Luv Luvin'
Chestnut 1977
Raise a Native
Ringing Bells
1961
1971
8-f
9-b
Bush Honey
Brown 1999
Woodman
Chestnut 1983
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Chestnut 1961
Native Dancer
Raise You
1950
1946
5-f
8-f
Gold Digger
Bay 1962
Nashua
Sequence
1952
1946
3-m
13-c
Playmate
Chestnut 1975
Buckpasser
Bay 1963
Tom Fool
Busanda
1949
1947
3-j
1-s
Intriguing
Chestnut 1964
Swaps
Glamour
1952
1953
A4
1-s
Saving
Brown 1981
Pevero
Bay 1975
Busted
Bay 1963
Crepello
Sans le Sou
1954
1957
16-d
2-s
Caprera
Bay 1967
Abernant
Primula
1946
1960
9-c
6-e
Chubb
Bay 1966
Faux Tirage
Bay 1946
Big Game
Commotion
1939
1938
6-e
9-c
Key
Bay 1958
Fair's Fair
Firstloch
1943
1950
6-e
1-b
 Ancestor duplications:Raise a Native4m,5f x 4m Mr Prospector3m x 3m Northern Dancer5m,4m x 
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Here's a fun one.

Apollo Maverick has Mr Prospector and Storm Cat and Nureyev and Riverman in its pedigree, yet still manages to win a 2m 4 and a half furlong Group 1 race in Japan by 8 lengths.

Admittedly, Mr Prospector is via Kingmambo, who is a force for stamina, and Nureyev is via Theatrical.


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Kiss Me Ketut.  By Danroad out of a Sadlers Wells mare.  Stepping up to 1800m on Thursday.
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Prince Jester.  By Golan.  Granddam by Sadlers Wells.  In the same family as Fatal Attraction (WA Oaks).  Entered Thursday over 1800m.
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5yo mare Roxanne Of Sydney trained by Colin Alderson.  By Zabeel out of an Entrepreneur mare.  Granddam by Marscay.  in the same family as Hobart Cup winner Zacielo.  Not a blueblood and done nothing much to date.  However didn't start racing until she was a 4yo.  Expect improvement as she steps up in distance, fitness and race experience.  Might pay to follow.
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DIRETTO (NZ)Brown colt 2010 
Pentire
Bay 1992
Be My Guest
Chestnut 1974
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Brown 1954
Nearco
Lady Angela
1935
1944
4-r
14-c
Natalma
Bay 1957
Native Dancer
Almahmoud
1950
1947
5-f
2-d
What a Treat
Bay or brown 1962
Tudor Minstrel
Brown 1944
Owen Tudor
Sansonnet
1938
1933
10-b
9-c
Rare Treat
Chestnut 1952
Stymie
Rare Perfume
1941
1947
1-h
8-c
Gull Nook
Bay 1983
Mill Reef
Bay 1968
Never Bend
Bay 1960
Nasrullah
Lalun
1940
1952
9-c
19-b
Milan Mill
Bay 1962
Princequillo
Virginia Water
1940
1953
1-b
22-d
Bempton
Bay 1976
Blakeney
Bay 1966
Hethersett
Windmill Girl
1959
1961
21-a
20-c
Hardiemma
Bay 1969
Hardicanute
Grand Cross
1962
1952
3-j
1-l
In the Midnight
Brown 2000
Quest for Fame
Bay or brown 1987
Rainbow Quest
Bay 1981
Blushing Groom
Chestnut 1974
Red God
Runaway Bride
1954
1962
8-c
22-d
I Will Follow
Bay 1975
Herbager
Where You Lead
1956
1970
16-c
14-f
Aryenne
Bay 1977
Green Dancer
Bay 1972
Nijinsky
Green Valley
1967
1967
8-f
16-c
Americaine
Chestnut 1968
Cambremont
Alora
1962
1954
1-t
4-i
Tupelo Honey
Bay 1982
Vice Regal
Brown 1973
Bismark
Bay 1967
Relic
Gun Play
1945
1959
8-f
13-c
Kind Regards
Brown 1966
Le Filou
Waft
1946
1956
16-c
3-e
Mary Poppins
Bay 1963
Fair's Fair
Chestnut 1943
Fair Trial
Fairy Godmother
1932
1929
9-c
6-e
Rag
Brown 1952
Lucky Bag
Waltzing Matilda
1944
1939
9-c
2-b




This gelding just had a gut buster over the clearly unsuitable 1250m at Canterbury. Hopefully he can live up to his pedigree. Queensland Derby is an obvious target even this far out. Chris Waller does not have a greta record with these types that he has produced from the get go.


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Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:

5yo mare Roxanne Of Sydney trained by Colin Alderson.  By Zabeel out of an Entrepreneur mare.  Granddam by Marscay.  in the same family as Hobart Cup winner Zacielo.  Not a blueblood and done nothing much to date.  However didn't start racing until she was a 4yo.  Expect improvement as she steps up in distance, fitness and race experience.  Might pay to follow.


ROXANNE OF SYDNEY (NZ)
Bay filly 2008 
Zabeel
Bay 1986
Sir Tristram
Bay 1971
Sir Ivor
Bay 1965
Sir Gaylord
Bay 1959
Turn-To
Somethingroyal
1951
1952
1-w
2-s
Attica
Chestnut 1953
Mr Trouble
Athenia
1947
1943
13-b
8-g
Isolt
Bay 1961
Round Table
Bay 1954
Princequillo
Knight's Daughter
1940
1941
1-b
2-f
All My Eye
Chestnut 1954
My Babu
All Moonshine
1945
1941
1-w
6-e
Lady Giselle
Bay 1982
Nureyev
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Special
Bay 1969
Forli
Thong
1963
1964
3-b
5-h
Valderna
Bay 1972
Val de Loir
Bay 1959
Vieux Manoir
Vali
1947
1954
10-e
5-h
Derna
Bay 1961
Sunny Boy
Miss Barberie
1944
1950
16-a
16-c
Foxette
Chestnut 2000
Entrepreneur
Bay 1994
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Exclusive Order
Chestnut 1979
Exclusive Native
Chestnut 1965
Raise a Native
Exclusive
1961
1953
8-f
10-a
Bonavista
Bay 1964
Dead Ahead
Ribotina
1959
1960
4-m
6-e
Blucielo
Chestnut 1992
Marscay
Chestnut 1979
Biscay
Chestnut 1965
Star Kingdom
Magic Symbol
1946
1956
1-g
2-o
Heart of Market
Bay 1967
To Market
Accroche Coeur
1948
1959
10-a
4-m
Dancer's Glory
Bay 1985
Danzatore
Bay 1980
Northern Dancer
Shake a Leg
1961
1970
2-d
2-f
Taiona
Brown 1972
Sovereign Edition
Vickyjoy
1962
1965
13-a
7-d
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m x 4m,5m Special4m x 5f

Not a bad family. Gurners Lane and Sovereign Red come to mind.




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WHARTON (AUS)
Bay colt 2010 
New Approach
Chestnut 2005
Galileo
Bay 1998
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Urban Sea
Chestnut 1989
Miswaki
Chestnut 1978
Mr Prospector
Hopespringseternal
1970
1971
13-c
16-g
Allegretta
Chestnut 1978
Lombard
Anatevka
1967
1969
1-d
9-h
Park Express
Bay or brown 1983
Ahonoora
Chestnut 1975
Lorenzaccio
Chestnut 1965
Klairon
Phoenissa
1952
1951
1-w
5-h
Helen Nichols
Chestnut 1966
Martial
Quaker Girl
1957
1961
2-e
1-m
Matcher
Brown 1966
Match
Brown 1958
Tantieme
Relance
1947
1952
20-a
16-g
Lachine
Bay 1960
Grey Sovereign
Loved One
1948
1947
6-f
19-b
Ivy League
Bay 1999
Doyoun
Bay 1985
Mill Reef
Bay 1968
Never Bend
Bay 1960
Nasrullah
Lalun
1940
1952
9-c
19-b
Milan Mill
Bay 1962
Princequillo
Virginia Water
1940
1953
1-b
22-d
Dumka
Bay 1971
Kashmir
Bay or brown 1963
Tudor Melody
Queen of Speed
1956
1950
1-n
9-c
Faizebad
Bay or brown 1962
Prince Taj
Floralie
1954
1954
9-c
21-a
Hedera
Chestnut 1992
Woodman
Chestnut 1983
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Playmate
Chestnut 1975
Buckpasser
Intriguing
1963
1964
1-s
1-s
Ivrea
Bay 1987
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Fairy Bridge
1961
1975
2-d
5-h
Ivy
Bay 1981
Sir Ivor
Durga
1965
1966
8-g
1-l
 Ancestor duplications:Sadler's Wells3m x 4f Mr Prospector5m x 4m


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JAZIL (SEEKING THE GOLD x BETTER THAN HONOUR) standing in VEN in 2014.  Stayers!
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One of my horses to follow. Wrote this December 2013: 

Duquesa (4m) Encosta De Lago out of Ethereal by Rhythm out of Romanee Conti by Sir Tristram out of Richebourg by Vice Regal. 

11 Dec. 2013 Ellerslie 2200m Mdn Awkward jump, settled back, made run turn and went to lead straight, too classy. Very impressive. Duquesa has obviously inherited the family ability being out of that champion race mare Ethereal, winner of the G1 The BMW, Melbourne Cup, Caulfield Cup, Queensland Oaks. Previous runs were over lesser ground so step up in distance suited and looks a special.

Encosta De Lago is by a son of Northern Dancer out of Shoal Creek by Star Way out of Rolls by Mr Prospector out of Grand Luxe by Sir Ivor out of Fanfreluche by Northern Dancer. 

Ethereal is by Rhythm (by Mr Prospector out of Dance Number by Northern Dancer) out of Romanee Conti by Sir Ivor's son Sir Tristram.  What a meshing of superior sex balanced genes involving these three breed shaping stallions, Northern Dancer, Mr Prospector and Sir Ivor. 

There are a 18 lines of breed shaping mare Selene in behind through sons and daughters involving Hyperion, Sickle, Pharamond II, New Moon and All Moonshine. There are also 22 lines of Gainsborough and 30 lines of Teddy who are from the same female family and have similar pedigrees overall
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hmm, Racing Post covers Chile, but not Venezuela.

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