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Originally posted by Xavier Xavier wrote:

Out of interest when was Weirs last positive?

I'm sure there's a few protons in a cattle prod
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You seem to know everything else
Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes
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No one swabs positive when using undetectable substances Confused
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Originally posted by Xavier Xavier wrote:

You seem to know everything else


Not everything, just a cheat when I see one
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It’s all hearsay though.
Nobody here actually knows what happened though.
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Nor what is/isn't happening Disapprove
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Hilarious that people are defending this.. wake up
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They've quickly forgotten Voodoo Lad Cry
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This will be like the trump thread

without the finesseLOL
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I’m not defending him.
I’m just seeing certain people saying things but then not having any factual information to support them.
I find the whole situation a little strange to be honest.

Didn’t realise we had so many experts on here.
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And let’s go easy on the Gelagotis’s. They bring a Multicultural aspect to racing.......
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Now you’re just putting words in my mouth
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The Lamings? A beautiful Father & Son story?
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I don’t get why you are even bringing them up.
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Gelagotis? Multiculturalism?
How about regarding differing opinions here as being diverse.
What makes Lindsey a cheat?
Because he gets winners?
How do other trainers get their winners?
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We on for $100 a Smith trained horse gets a positive within 12 months?
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I dont have to take your money to prove a point.



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Originally posted by Discohips23 Discohips23 wrote:

We on for $100 a Smith trained horse gets a positive within 12 months?

what do you hate smith and weir so much??  the knocked back on of your slow horses?   
chris Armstrong waller, *drugs are bad mkay
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Once a cheat always a cheat
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Haters just have to hate, glass half empty, pessimistic bods.

Will be interesting to see how the media takes Lindsey as he is quite popular in WA. A self deprecating person.

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Please return to topic! We already have a Smith thread running Disapprove
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Lindsey is talking about BHB in that audio.

Towards the end, probably the last 4 minutes.

Gives a bloody good explanation of the state of play as far as the horses future goes.



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Smith re Bart critics – “trust me”

July 3, 2019 10:56 am

Lindsey Smith is “stuck in the eighties” and doesn’t follow social media.

But the Perth trainer – soon to be a full-time Victorian trainer if he can convince his wife to move – is aware of the rumblings about the Black Heart Bart comeback.

The theme of many is “what more does this old horse have to prove?”

Smith offered a reassurance on Racing Pulse this morning.

“Everyone just relax, trust me. The stewards will do their job, the vets will do their job, the bloke who rides him in work will do his job,” Smith said.

“He’s enjoying his life. He looks good, so everyone should just ….  Instead of sitting in a paddock and being cold, he’s in a beautiful box, he’s enjoying his work down at the beach and if he’s not up to it I’ll be the first one to stop.”

Smith said he was mindful of public scrutiny with Black Heart Bart, who pulled up with internal bleeding and injury hotspots when unplaced in last year’s Toorak Handicap at Caulfield. He is now a rising nine-year-old.

Trainer Darren Weir announced Black Heart Bart’s retirement shortly after.

“I still live in the eighties. I don’t get to the social media but you hear it from people,” Smith said. I’m a horse trainer, I’ve been doing it a long time, I love animals, I will not send that horse to a racetrack if he’s not going to be competitive and a chance of winning.”

Black Heart Bart was given the thumbs-up by Ballarat vets last week but must be inspected by Racing Victoria vets after he trials, which he will do in coming weeks.

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The stewards have it covered.
Dont worry, be happy.
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Depending on how long the undetectable Chinese painkillers work
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A typical Matt Stewart “story”. I think the majority of people are more interested on how and where Black Heart Bart got to the fitness stage he is at. Obviously Weir is pre training horses on his property and god knows what else he is doing to them. By all reports he is running cattle on his property and can use them as an excuse to have electronic devices on his farm.
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The vast majority are concerned with his level of fitness & whether or not they can make a buck.
You clearly have little idea when, why & how to effectively use an electric device on a horse in order to increase race day performance
I'll never forget Noel Kelly saying  it's effect is maximised at the 1st use & rarely afterwards.
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