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Currie’s legal team will not comment on the charges until all details are clear."

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Currie's legal team must be really rattling up the fees.
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Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

He'll have as many charges as winners at this rate!

"Toowoomba trainer Ben Currie is to have a fourth charge involving a prohibited substance swab added to the three he is to answer at an inquiry.

Queensland Racing Integrity Commission stewards informed Curre’s legal representative of the charge on Friday afternoon.

Last month, QRIC told Currie he would face three charges at an inquiry on January 14.

In a media release QRIC said the fourth charge against Currie would allege he brought winner Dreamscope to race at Toowoomba on September 16 with prohibited substances in its system.

The previous alleged prohibited substance breaches relate to Wicked Trilogy on December 2, 2017 at Kilcoy, Shakira on January 28 at Toowoomba and Karaharaga on July 6 at Rockhampton.

QRIC has not identified the substance involved.

All four charges will be heard together and are unrelated to other charges Currie is facing.

Currie’s legal team will not comment on the charges until all details are clear."

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Thanks for the edit Gay, it pissed me off as soon as I saw it LOL
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This could be the human version of Chatauqua's antics now.

Surely this trainer is just taking the p#@s.
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Originally posted by VOYAGER VOYAGER wrote:

This could be the human version of Chatauqua's antics now.

Surely this trainer is just taking the p#@s.


Well it is now time for the stewards to “put up or shut up “. Name the substance and stand him down, or let him walk. The credibility of QRIC is on the line here. The public is watching and asking how somebody with so many charges can keep operating as normal, without impediment. If he is found guilty of earlier charges, the question will b “why did he keep racing horses and making money”. Name the substance and bite the bullet QRIC, or remove Integrity from your name.
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Originally posted by Batman Batman wrote:

Originally posted by VOYAGER VOYAGER wrote:

This could be the human version of Chatauqua's antics now.

Surely this trainer is just taking the p#@s.


Well it is now time for the stewards to “put up or shut up “. Name the substance and stand him down, or let him walk. The credibility of QRIC is on the line here. The public is watching and asking how somebody with so many charges can keep operating as normal, without impediment. If he is found guilty of earlier charges, the question will b “why did he keep racing horses and making money”. Name the substance and bite the bullet QRIC, or remove Integrity from your name.

To be fair on QRIC they did stand him down and it was QCAT that allowed him to continue training. That demonstrates a failure of the system structure more so than any individual body. One would think that returning positive swabs would breach the terms stay granted by QCAT. If not then there is very little recourse for QRIC other than to manage the case in the same convoluted manner as all others.
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Someone on Twitter asked ''why aren't the bookmakers taking a class action to stop Currie''......they are the losers after all. 
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Actually when you think about it, that person is onto something, maybe they will bet ''Currie out'' and not take bets on his horses, wonder how that would stand legally.
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Originally posted by Bonjour Bonjour wrote:

Actually when you think about it, that person is onto something, maybe they will bet ''Currie out'' and not take bets on his horses, wonder how that would stand legally.


It wouldn’t. Racing Qld should seek an injunction perhaps
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mowie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Dec 2018 at 5:44pm

am I right in saying when he gets banned he gets banned from race tracks for that time period?

the harness race fixers got banned but own a pre training centre/break horses in so lost nothing from there ban so same will happen to ben here?
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That would be 39 all total now?


Ben Currie facing fresh charges


The Queensland Racing Integrity Commission issued the following statement on Friday afternoon regarding Toowoomba trainer Ben Currie:

Toowoomba trainer Ben Currie has been issued with seven more alleged breaches of the rules of racing as part of the ongoing investigation into his stable.

It will be alleged that serious animal welfare breaches have occurred including the alleged use of a jigger on two occasions, unauthorised shockwave treatments, failure to report bleeding horses to Stewards and race-day treatment breaches in contravention of the rules of racing.

Racing Integrity Commissioner Ross Barnett said the investigation that commenced on 7 April last year was always going to be long and protracted and these new allegations stemmed from items seized as part of the ongoing Currie Racing case.

The very serious nature of the animal welfare allegations that have surfaced as a result of this investigation have left us with no choice but to act now in the interests of the Queensland racing industry,” Barnett said.

Mr Currie has been called to a Steward’s Inquiry on Monday 18 February at 10am to show cause why he should not be suspended.

Consideration was given to whether horses trained by Mr Currie that are nominated to run this weekend should be allowed to compete.

We have balanced the impact on owners, connections and jockeys, the need to protect the image of the Queensland Racing Industry, and legal considerations in arriving at the decision to allow nominated horses to compete this weekend.

However, this position will be reviewed after Monday’s Steward’s Inquiry.

Also, none of Mr Currie’s horses nominated to race this weekend are the subject of these latest alleged breaches of the rules which are historic in nature.

Barnett said Friday's allegations were in addition to the 28 alleged rule breaches stewards issued to Currie on July 3 last year and four alleged illegal substance breaches issued on November 28 and December 14 last year.

Mr Currie has continued to train horses in Queensland on a QCAT stay of proceedings.

QRIC Steward’s Inquiries into the earlier matters are currently delayed until the outcome of a Supreme Court hearing next Friday, 22 February.

The Currie Racing investigation has not concluded and further alleged breaches of the rules of racing are likely,” Barnett said.

The latest allegations to come to light occurred between January 2016 and April 2017.

In contravention of AR175(n) Stewards will allege Currie instructed the use of an electric or electronic apparatus (jigger) to deliver an electric shock in an act of cruelty on ‘Cordon Rouge’ prior to racing at Gatton on 30 July 2016.

Stewards will also allege that between 1 March 2016 and 7 March 2016 in breach of AR175(n) Mr Currie allegedly used an electric or electronic apparatus (jigger) on a horse that has been designed to deliver an electric shock.

In contravention of AR64H Stewards allege Mr Currie permitted ‘Dog Days Are Over’ to race at the Sunshine Coast on 16 April 2017 when it had been subjected to shockwave therapy during the seven clear day period before race day.

In a breach of AR53A it will be alleged that Mr Currie failed to notify Stewards when ‘Deep Down’ bled on 31 May 2016 and was then raced by another trainer until June 2017.

It is also alleged in a further breach of AR53A that Mr Currie failed to notify Stewards when ‘Rock Spark’ bled on 6 April 2017, the horse which was sold shortly after the incident continued to race under another trainer.

Stewards will also allege that in a breach of AR175(a) that Mr Currie allegedly made dishonest statements in not disclosing to potential purchasers that Rock Spark bled at Gatton on 6 April 2017.

In an alleged breach of AR178E(1) Mr Currie allegedly caused the administration of boost paste to ‘Honey Toast’ on the day it raced in the Sunshine Coast Cup on 31 January 2016.

Due to the ongoing nature of the Currie Racing investigation the Commission will make no further comment at this stage.
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That's jarred my memory, what about Nelligan and Aquanita? will they ever get whats coming? When are they next in court? surely all this is damaging racing, and turnover, surely?
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Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

That would be 39 all total now?

Will raise the bat once he reaches 50
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This is worse than Weir and Smerdon put together.

If proven, he is kissed.
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Originally posted by Lordy Lordy wrote:

Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

That would be 39 all total now?

Will raise the bat once he reaches 50
    Obviously wont be long before he gets the 50 , then hopefully he get 50 to life.
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Banned from stepping on Eagle Farm or Doomben.

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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Banned from stepping on Eagle Farm or Doomben.



But his horses can? As Manuel would say “Keh”
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Has been banned by the BRC using licensing laws but they have no power to ban his horses
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Originally posted by horlicks horlicks wrote:

Has been banned by the BRC using licensing laws but they have no power to ban his horses

Qld racing is a joke.
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How can you ban a trainer, but not the horses, if they are still in his care Confused  Thats just plain crazy !!!
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

How can you ban a trainer, but not the horses, if they are still in his care Confused  Thats just plain crazy !!!

Pretty simple. The club can refuse people entry to their licensed premises. They have no jurisdiction over the horses being entered into races.
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Originally posted by Lordy Lordy wrote:

Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

How can you ban a trainer, but not the horses, if they are still in his care Confused  Thats just plain crazy !!!

Pretty simple. The club can refuse people entry to their licensed premises. They have no jurisdiction over the horses being entered into races.

That's ridiculous, how can a banned trainer nominate horses in his care? the embargo should cover the whole establishment , Ql. racing has me stumped at times.
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When will one of these outed trainers roll on all the others in regards to electronic devices and race day pastes.
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that's hilariously backwards. up ya go QLD Racing
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Will Toowoomba follow suit you think? Dear Mr Currie, not on our premises thanks, but your horses are ok.
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The BRC have issued the ban from him attending their facilities, they can’t ban horses - not in their jurisdiction ; racing Qld stewards can only do that after a show cause hearing.
He will ‘show cause’ on Monday , then the stewards can ban his runners.

Make sense?
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I suppose you could ban a bank robber from entering banks until your hearing, but here's your gun go an rob a tab.
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Originally posted by Bonjour Bonjour wrote:

Will Toowoomba follow suit you think? Dear Mr Currie, not on our premises thanks, but your horses are ok.

i'm heading up there today , I'll let you know bonjour - hopefully our horse, star adele beats his (and everything else in the race!)
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[QUOTE=Xavier]The BRC have issued the ban from him attending their facilities, they can’t ban horses - not in their jurisdiction ; racing Qld stewards can only do that after a show cause hearing.
He will ‘show cause’ on Monday , then the stewards can ban his runners.

Make sense?[/QUOTE
Yep, its not real complex.  Surprised so many people are struggling to understand it.
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Wish Hugh Bowman was banned from RANDWICK today. Gayatri @ $1.90, back second last on turn and saw lots of rump steak before getting home late for second. Yes I am talking through my wallet bet gee I hope he rides Winx better. At least he has 5 wingmen looking out for him.
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Originally posted by marble marble wrote:

Originally posted by Bonjour Bonjour wrote:

Will Toowoomba follow suit you think? Dear Mr Currie, not on our premises thanks, but your horses are ok.

i'm heading up there today , I'll let you know bonjour - hopefully our horse, star adele beats his (and everything else in the race!)

Best of British to you and Star Adele...and you'll have 99% of people urging you onClapClapClap
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