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They are awaiting a decision from QCAT on the stay. This type of action doesn't reflect well and won't help their cause.
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I saw but didn't hear Brent Zaraffa speaking on Racing.com t.v. on this issue. Seeing BZ speaking about integrity was very amusing.
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He's a different sort of animal this bloke. Still fairly active on Twitter, taking bait from some $1 each way 'tipsters'.
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Originally posted by Red Hare Red Hare wrote:

He's a different sort of animal this bloke. Still fairly active on Twitter, taking bait from some $1 each way 'tipsters'.

Is he all there or are we looking at some pathological delusions? Trying to put the horses in his father’s name was idiotic.
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He's still in his mid-late 20s. 

Par for the course, IMO. Doubt he even remembers what it was like to have to memorise your mate's phone number.
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Stay of proceedings granted
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Originally posted by Lordy Lordy wrote:

They are awaiting a decision from QCAT on the stay. This type of action doesn't reflect well and won't help their cause.
 
He got a 5 day stay I read tonight yeh?  

rookie mistake by ben, you dope an cheat slowly then became a big name an you are in the clear, it's what chris waller did ehh I mean lance Armstrong did
chris Armstrong waller, *drugs are bad mkay
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If only betting was so easy. Saw the poster name on the thread update and bet myself that he'd find a way to weedle in some mention of his obsession. Bingo.

When he gets off the meds perhaps he'll document his charges more specifically?
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No great shock that the stay was granted. QCAT handing them out is little more than a rubber stamp profess these days. The fact that they had to consider this one for a few days makes you think QRIC might have a pretty solid case.
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He's either innocent or he's got some MASSIVE grapefruits



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Anyone still think it’s just because he’s in his 20s?   
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And I still believe Kay Kay Boy has the makings of a serious stallion prospect
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Racing NSW stewards have invoked a rule which stops embattled Queensland trainer Ben Currie from entering horses in New South Wales.

Currie is currently facing 31 charges including raceday treatment and shockwave therapy, providing false evidence and obstructing a stewards’ investigation.

Late last month NSW stewards issued Currie with a show cause notice “as to why the provisions of AR50, to reject or decline to receive nominations of horses trained by him, should not be invoked”.

Australian racing rule AR50 reads - All nominations and entries are subject to approval, and the Committee of any Club, or the Stewards, may decline to receive, or at any time after having received, reject any nomination or entry without giving any reason for so doing. If any nomination or entry be rejected under this Rule, the fees paid in respect thereof shall be refunded.

Currie provided “brief submissions” to stewards on May 30 and on June 6 and they ruled against the trainer, applying the rule.

“Racing NSW Stewards are of the view that any hardship suffered by Mr Currie by the invoking the provisions of AR50, is outweighed by the prejudice to, and undermining of, the image, interests and integrity of racing in NSW if he was permitted to nominate (and race) horses in NSW while the serious charges issued against him are yet to be determined,” the stewards report read.

“In those circumstances, the “balance of convenience” is against Mr Currie and, accordingly, Racing NSW Stewards rule that, acting under the provisions of AR50, nominations of horses trained by Mr Currie will be declined to be received and/or rejected until the charges issued by the Queensland Racing Integrity Commission as detailed above have been resolved.”

At this stage no date has been set for Currie’s hearing, although it’s expected to be heard later this month.

Currie is currently training a stay of proceedings in Queensland and has pleaded not guilty to all charges against him.

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Maybe QRIC could just send a full-time steward to supervise this yard, especially race morning.
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Currie inquiry takes a turn as CCTV footage emerges

Posted by: Michael Nicholls+ at 4:31pm on 9/7/2018
Posted in: BreakingHorse Racing News

Pivotal information in Queensland Racing Integrity Commission’s case against Ben Currie and four of his stable employees has emerged.

CCTV Footage obtained by The Courier Mail allegedly shows Ben Currie’s father, Mark Currie, illegally treating horses on raceday at Ben Currie’s Hursley Road stable in Toowoomba.

The footage published on The Courier Mail was filmed on March 24, a key date where stewards allege that 5 horses were treated illegally before racing that same day.

The Courier Mail also published transcripts of interviews transcripts conducted by QRIC’s integrity regulation unit manager Tracey Pelling, chief steward Allan Reardon and steward Ian Brown with Mark Currie.

In one of the excerpts Mark Currie was questioned whether he had treated Gully’s Command on March 24 to which he replied “I’ll take responsibility for it”.

Alan Reardon: … You agree that Gully Command’s been treated on that day?

Mark Currie: Yep.

Alan Reardon: Is there anything you’d like to say before the team here review further footage?

Mark Currie: No. I’ll just take it – I’ll take responsibility for it.

Mark Currie was disqualified for two years after being found guilty of 16 charges involving race day treatment. He remains operating having been granted an extension of a stay on his disqualification.

Ben Currie is facing 31 charges which mainly relate to alleged race day treatments.

He has pleaded not guilty to those charges and has indicated he will defend them all.

Other Ben Currie employees punished as a result of the inquiry include Greg Britnell (18 months disqualification), Cameron Schwenke (three months suspension) and Silde Canda (three months suspension).

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Originally posted by linghi11 linghi11 wrote:

Maybe QRIC could just send a full-time steward to supervise this yard, especially race morning.
LOLLOL After watching the video link in the Courier Mail, they might get the steward to hold the syringes for them. They seemed to have their hands full 
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I could add another charge that could be considered.
Bringing racing into dispute would be one for sure. What amazes me are the owners who are happy to leave their horses there, knowing that the horses are getting an unfair advantage. 

If Ben and dad really believed it was legal to give horses "stuff" on raceday, why did they do it in secrecy? In my books, he can train a thousand winners, buy will always be a cheat who had his success based on breaching rules. Obviously not all horses get treated on race day, but winning races with juiced up horses leads to better horses in the stable, more clients, and that means more winners. And that goes back to being willing to cheat in the first place. 

He is not the first or only one, and the Aquanita saga shows that, but there will be more and more worried now. A good telltale sign is the stables whose strikerate drops through the floor without illness being to blame. Some of the cheat have pulled their heads in, albeit possibly only temporarily, since the increased testing. 

The other stunning thing is being allowed to continue training until this is sorted. He should be stood down like in other situations where people are charged with major offenses. QRIC needs to show some guts and protect the integrity of racing.

Maybe if all trainers refuse to race against Currie trained horses, the powers to be would soon act. 
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If QCAT saw the video and still gave them a stay, QCAT have a lot to answer for.

Owners are THERE for the unfair advantage, pure and simple.
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Originally posted by linghi11 linghi11 wrote:

If QCAT saw the video and still gave them a stay, QCAT have a lot to answer for.

Owners are THERE for the unfair advantage, pure and simple.

Those owners should be ashamed to be associated with this stable. Says a lot for their character.
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Getting a stay via QCAT is a rubber stamp process. The fact they took a few days before awarding one to Currie speaks volumes.
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Originally posted by Batman Batman wrote:

I could add another charge that could be considered.
Bringing racing into dispute would be one for sure. What amazes me are the owners who are happy to leave their horses there, knowing that the horses are getting an unfair advantage. 

If Ben and dad really believed it was legal to give horses "stuff" on raceday, why did they do it in secrecy? In my books, he can train a thousand winners, buy will always be a cheat who had his success based on breaching rules. Obviously not all horses get treated on race day, but winning races with juiced up horses leads to better horses in the stable, more clients, and that means more winners. And that goes back to being willing to cheat in the first place. 

He is not the first or only one, and the Aquanita saga shows that, but there will be more and more worried now. A good telltale sign is the stables whose strikerate drops through the floor without illness being to blame. Some of the cheat have pulled their heads in, albeit possibly only temporarily, since the increased testing. 

The other stunning thing is being allowed to continue training until this is sorted. He should be stood down like in other situations where people are charged with major offenses. QRIC needs to show some guts and protect the integrity of racing.

Maybe if all trainers refuse to race against Currie trained horses, the powers to be would soon act. 
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Russ Hinze would be turning in his grave that he wasn't able to be part of this rort
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They’re having plenty of problems in Toowoomba. The next biggest operation up there has also just returned a cobalt positive from a winner at Kilcoy. There will be no trainers left soon, except the few that follow the rules.
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Batman I wonder if you knew the results of the cobalt retests (ordered by Judges) done in Qld and Victoria that have finally speciated cobalt and Vitamin B12 in the samples??
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Originally posted by skippy123 skippy123 wrote:

Batman I wonder if you knew the results of the cobalt retests (ordered by Judges) done in Qld and Victoria that have finally speciated cobalt and Vitamin B12 in the samples??

No Skippy, I don’t know and hope the cobalt turns out to be something not sinister. I doubt any trainer would be dumb enough to knowingly administer. However the Aquanita and Currie stables do not seem to be Cobalt infringements.
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